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#1687973 - 11/04/19 12:47 PM Kitchen's not worried about job security.
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Kitchens 'not worried about' job security after loss
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By Kevin Patra
Around the NFL Writer
Published: Nov. 4, 2019 at 08:55 a.m.

The calls for Cleveland Browns coach Freddie Kitchens to lose his job are getting louder off the shores of Lake Erie.

Sunday's 24-19 loss to the Denver Broncos, whose quarterback Brandon Allen was taking his first snaps in the NFL, was a low point, dropping the Browns to 2-6.

Kitchens insists the calls for his job don't bother him in the least.

"It really doesn't concern me," he said, via the Cleveland Plain Dealer. "It's not my decision. I've never worried about it before, I'm not worried about it now, I'm not going to worry about it in the future. I'll just do the best job I can do."



If the first half of his coaching career is his best, he won't keep the gig much longer.

The Browns have been a haphazard operation, plagued by penalties, missed tackles, inconsistent offense and a quarterback that has struggled in Year 2.

Kitchens was a breath of fresh air when he took over the offense last season. In 2019, the air got stale quickly. Cleveland's offense has no identity, is just a collection of plays with seemingly no plan, and the execution has been rotten.

Baker Mayfield, who for the first time this season didn't throw an interception, insisted the struggles are on the players, not the coaching staff.

"It's a topic for you guys," Mayfield said. "Within our building we know exactly what's wrong. We haven't executed. I think, like I said earlier, we had a good plan we just haven't executed it. We'll see how the guys handle it this week, but it's got to be a singular focus. The preparation the last few games has been unbelievable, so we need to continue that.

"The type of men that we have, I said it weeks ago, whenever it was, months ago, that we're going to stick together. We're going to keep pushing forward, so this is obviously very frustrating but we got to move forward."

It's fair to note that last year the Browns fired Hue Jackson after eight disappointing games with a record of 2-5-1 (including four overtime games -- three losses). Jackson, of course, had two previous seasons of ineptitude (1-31) to take into consideration. Yet, Kitchens' operation -- with all the talent on both sides of the ball -- somehow seems worse.

Cleveland lacks attention to detail, guidance, and cohesive leadership.

Despite the loss, Kitchens still believes the ship is pointing in the right direction.

"I think our guys are still fighting,'' he said. "I think they go out and played well for the most part. Got bogged down in the red zone offensively. Defensively, I think you make a few more tackles and they don't really have much. They scored 24 points on 21 minutes of possession, so that means that they were getting them off the field and giving up a few big plays and a couple tackles that extended drives for them. Offensively, we moved the ball pretty well until we got in the red zone. It just takes execution. I don't think we've got anyone here that's going to give up or throw in the towel.

"We've still got eight games left so we've got to do something with those eight games. It starts at one game. That's the only thing we can win is one game. I think these guys focused and concentrated this week. We didn't have any pre-snap penalties. We didn't turn the ball over. We've got to do a better job in the run game of staying on our blocks, especially when we have double teams. We've got to come off the ball and stay with those doubles. I don't think there's any quit in these guys."

The first part of the season the Browns faced a tough schedule. Sunday was supposed to represent an easier road to get back on track.

The train remains overturned in the ditch.

Losing to a first-time quarterback while squandering opportunity after opportunity is a bad loss for Kitchens and the Browns. A few more like it down the stretch, and GM John Dorsey will be looking for a mulligan for his coaching hire.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001...rity-after-loss

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#1687974 - 11/04/19 12:49 PM Re: Kitchen's not worried about job security. [Re: BarkinMad]
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He doesnít need to worry about it because he knows heís already lost it.

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#1687983 - 11/04/19 12:58 PM Re: Kitchen's not worried about job security. [Re: BarkinMad]
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How much do we need to pay Urban Meyer to coach this team?

Letís freaking crowd fund this if we have to.
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#1687986 - 11/04/19 01:02 PM Re: Kitchen's not worried about job security. [Re: Swish]
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Originally Posted By: Swish
How much do we need to pay Urban Meyer to coach this team?

Letís freaking crowd fund this if we have to.


College coach again? Seriously?

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#1687988 - 11/04/19 01:04 PM Re: Kitchen's not worried about job security. [Re: Swish]
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Originally Posted By: Swish
How much do we need to pay Urban Meyer to coach this team?

Letís freaking crowd fund this if we have to.


I wouldn't mind having him as our next head coach either - not one bit.

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#1687993 - 11/04/19 01:08 PM Re: Kitchen's not worried about job security. [Re: BarkinMad]
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Why would he? Worst case scenario he is going to get HC level compensation when he gets fired...

How many years has a RB coach would he need to get this kind of money.

Would you be worried if you were the CEO of your company, not me... with the severance packages they get, I would have to work several lives to make that kind of money.


Edited by rastanplan (11/04/19 01:08 PM)

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#1687996 - 11/04/19 01:12 PM Re: Kitchen's not worried about job security. [Re: BarkinMad]
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We are trapped in a bad cycle of deja vu.

Thinking about not watching the game next week. Maybe just have redzone on. It usually takes me to like week 12 or so to not really want to watch anymore.

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#1687997 - 11/04/19 01:13 PM Re: Kitchen's not worried about job security. [Re: Schadenfreude]
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Originally Posted By: Swish
How much do we need to pay Urban Meyer to coach this team?

Letís freaking crowd fund this if we have to.


College coach again? Seriously?

Again?

Paul Brown and Butch Davis were the only two we've ever hired straight from college in 73 years.
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#1687999 - 11/04/19 01:14 PM Re: Kitchen's not worried about job security. [Re: BarkinMad]
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If he's doing the best he can and these are the results...

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#1688000 - 11/04/19 01:15 PM Re: Kitchen's not worried about job security. [Re: BarkinMad]
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I like Meyer but why would he leave the comfort of Ohio State AD? Yeah, he might get a bit more money as HC of the Browns...maybe? He'd also have a lot more stress and I think he's had enough of that. So, I don't see any possibility of getting Meyer as Browns coach.

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#1688004 - 11/04/19 01:23 PM Re: Kitchen's not worried about job security. [Re: BarkinMad]
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He could care less. He got a gift with this job for whatever $$$ he signed for. He's an egomaniac and he is going to get relieved of his duties doing things HIS way. He never has to work again. The Browns have AGAIN paid for someone's retirement. That is about all they have been good at since they returned to the league. I would get rid of him ASAP simply to restore order to the locker room. The lack of discipline and focus is alarming.
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#1688007 - 11/04/19 01:24 PM Re: Kitchen's not worried about job security. [Re: BarkinMad]
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How about a voice with some credibility and then an OC with some innovation and intelligence
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#1688013 - 11/04/19 01:28 PM Re: Kitchen's not worried about job security. [Re: BarkinMad]
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And someone who others would like to work with is a considering factor.

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#1688024 - 11/04/19 01:38 PM Re: Kitchen's not worried about job security. [Re: 1oldMutt]
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j/c...


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#1688025 - 11/04/19 01:38 PM Re: Kitchen's not worried about job security. [Re: Milk Man]
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j/c...

I have zero confidence in our ability to use any player
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Why canít he just say: ďLook, we need to cut out anything that isnít about winning. Guys, letís eliminate social media, fashion, beards, clown shoes, etc until we get to .500.Ē
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worse than battling with his gut feeling
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#1688047 - 11/04/19 01:48 PM Re: Kitchen's not worried about job security. [Re: BarkinMad]
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I would love to have somebody similar to Kyle Shannahan but we had him and let him walk.


Some of us weren't happy about that.

But then again, with the GM's and drafts we had about that time, he would probably have been used as a scapegoat and been gone by now anyway.
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All i need to see to know he's even more clueless than advertised
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#1688055 - 11/04/19 01:51 PM Re: Kitchen's not worried about job security. [Re: Milk Man]
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First 8 games do not matter, folks.....


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I would say that winning should be your expectations whether you're inside or outside the building. Especially yesterday. A two win team with a starting QB who never took a snap in the NFL.
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#1688057 - 11/04/19 01:52 PM Re: Kitchen's not worried about job security. [Re: Milk Man]
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Pssst, someone letter Freddie know he already is answering the same questions every week...


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#1688059 - 11/04/19 01:53 PM Re: Kitchen's not worried about job security. [Re: Milk Man]
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saywhat

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#1688060 - 11/04/19 01:53 PM Re: Kitchen's not worried about job security. [Re: Dawgs4Life]
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Why canít he just say: ďLook, we need to cut out anything that isnít about winning. Guys, letís eliminate social media, fashion, beards, clown shoes, etc until we get to .500.Ē

Let me be the first to say, AMEN MY BROTHER!!!!!!!
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