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#1699092 - 11/26/19 09:06 PM Re: MLB "Hot Stove League" thread [Re: Dave]
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#1701822 - 12/02/19 11:31 AM Re: MLB "Hot Stove League" thread [Re: GratefulDawg]
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#1701829 - 12/02/19 11:41 AM Re: MLB "Hot Stove League" thread [Re: Milk Man]
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Whatever happened to that young catcher that was supposed to be an up n comming player for us?

Not Meija....someone else.
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#1701836 - 12/02/19 11:52 AM Re: MLB "Hot Stove League" thread [Re: MemphisBrownie]
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Originally Posted By: MemphisBrownie
Whatever happened to that young catcher that was supposed to be an up n comming player for us?

Not Meija....someone else.


If you're talking about Eric Haase, I think he's still on the Columbus Clippers roster, and still has options. He had 28 HR in AAA last season.

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#1701844 - 12/02/19 12:05 PM Re: MLB "Hot Stove League" thread [Re: MemphisBrownie]
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Originally Posted By: MemphisBrownie
Whatever happened to that young catcher that was supposed to be an up n comming player for us?

Not Meija....someone else.


Bo Naylor?

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#1701846 - 12/02/19 12:07 PM Re: MLB "Hot Stove League" thread [Re: Dave]
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Originally Posted By: Dave
Originally Posted By: MemphisBrownie
Whatever happened to that young catcher that was supposed to be an up n comming player for us?

Not Meija....someone else.


If you're talking about Eric Haase, I think he's still on the Columbus Clippers roster, and still has options. He had 28 HR in AAA last season.


Yes, I think this was who I was referring to.
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#1701981 - 12/02/19 04:51 PM Re: MLB "Hot Stove League" thread [Re: Milk Man]
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For people that like the Indians and have watched the Mandolorian:

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#1701998 - 12/02/19 06:08 PM Re: MLB "Hot Stove League" thread [Re: Dave]
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Cincinnati Reds signed Mike Moustakis to a 4 year $64M deal. He'll play 2B for them. I wanted him here, but probably not for $16M per year.

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/2821...ds?platform=amp

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#1702009 - 12/02/19 06:54 PM Re: MLB "Hot Stove League" thread [Re: Dave]
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Yeah thatís quite a price to pay
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#1702013 - 12/02/19 07:04 PM Re: MLB "Hot Stove League" thread [Re: Dave]
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Wouldn't be surprised if the Indians go after Scooter Gennett, who was the Reds 2B last year when he finally got off the DL. He had 23 HR, 92 RBI, and a .310 BA in 2018.

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#1702037 - 12/02/19 09:21 PM Re: MLB "Hot Stove League" thread [Re: MemphisBrownie]
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Originally Posted By: MemphisBrownie
Whatever happened to that young catcher that was supposed to be an up n comming player for us?

Not Meija....someone else.


That is the right name if not the right spelling - I'm not sure.
He had the 20 game hitting streak
We traded him a while back
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#1702071 - 12/03/19 06:57 AM Re: MLB "Hot Stove League" thread [Re: Dave]
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Wouldn't be surprised if the Indians go after Scooter Gennett, who was the Reds 2B last year when he finally got off the DL. He had 23 HR, 92 RBI, and a .310 BA in 2018.
heíd be a pretty good guy to target .... good call
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#1702183 - 12/03/19 11:45 AM Re: MLB "Hot Stove League" thread [Re: Dawgs4Life]
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Depends on if you get the pre-injury or the post-injury Scooter. He was on IR for 3 months with a strained groin to start the season and didn't come back till the end of June and when he did he stunk so bad that Cincy traded him to San Fran for cash after a month of little production, San Fran cut him a month later when they got almost nothing out of him.
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#1702287 - 12/03/19 04:26 PM Re: MLB "Hot Stove League" thread [Re: dawg66]
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#1702289 - 12/03/19 04:31 PM Re: MLB "Hot Stove League" thread [Re: Milk Man]
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If a person were to read the original article by Jeff Passan instead of just reading this misleading headline (I am not saying that's what you did Milk Man) then they would learn that what was said was:

Quote:
Lindor, multiple executives said, "is going to get traded." They're not sure if it's this winter or next summer, but considering how disciplined the Indians are, they want to maximize Lindor's value, and doing so means trading him before the July 31 deadline. Maybe if Cleveland is excellent, it's a different story, but executives who covet Lindor believe it's the logical outcome, because the Indians don't want to find themselves in a similar situation as Boston, with Betts' value diminished because he's so close to free agency.


https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/2821...son-trade-talks

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#1702295 - 12/03/19 04:40 PM Re: MLB "Hot Stove League" thread [Re: cfrs15]
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Yep, read the whole article.

I do expect him to be traded, it would have to be a major haul to trade him this year or the Indians absolutely bottom out early. I would be somewhat surprised if it happens this year.

Other than maybe the Dodgers, I'm not sure how many teams have the value in return to warrant trading him this year, but next year is likely, unfortunately.

Passan's article had a lot of other trade possibilities as well.

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#1702502 - 12/04/19 12:35 PM Re: MLB "Hot Stove League" thread [Re: Dave]
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#1702580 - 12/04/19 02:52 PM Re: MLB "Hot Stove League" thread [Re: GratefulDawg]
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#1702600 - 12/04/19 03:32 PM Re: MLB "Hot Stove League" thread [Re: Milk Man]
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Go ahead and SuperBrown your post and like it, That's great news!
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#1702944 - 12/05/19 08:44 PM Re: MLB "Hot Stove League" thread [Re: Dave]
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Phillies sign former Met SP Zach Wheeler to 5 year $118M. Makes Corey Kluber at $17.5M look like a bargain.

https://mlb.nbcsports.com/2019/12/04/zack-wheeler-signs-with-the-phillies-on-a-five-year-deal/

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#1702945 - 12/05/19 08:52 PM Re: MLB "Hot Stove League" thread [Re: Dave]
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If I were to bet, I would bet that Kluber gets traded this coming year.
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#1702952 - 12/05/19 10:14 PM Re: MLB "Hot Stove League" thread [Re: Dave]
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If we come out guns a blazin' to start the season, Kluber and Lindor will stick around for this entire season.

If not, they'll be gone by July.
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#1705036 - 12/09/19 01:29 PM Re: MLB "Hot Stove League" thread [Re: Dave]
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#1705062 - 12/09/19 01:55 PM Re: MLB "Hot Stove League" thread [Re: Dave]
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#1705066 - 12/09/19 01:58 PM Re: MLB "Hot Stove League" thread [Re: Dave]
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few job postings at the Indians for those with tech background:

https://boards.greenhouse.io/clevelandindiansbops

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#1705491 - 12/11/19 12:09 AM Re: MLB "Hot Stove League" thread [Re: Barfolemew]
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j/c...

Lovely....


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#1705523 - 12/11/19 07:41 AM Re: MLB "Hot Stove League" thread [Re: Milk Man]
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#1705544 - 12/11/19 09:19 AM Re: MLB "Hot Stove League" thread [Re: Dave]
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Yikes, Cole got some money
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#1705559 - 12/11/19 10:16 AM Re: MLB "Hot Stove League" thread [Re: Dave]
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#1705591 - 12/11/19 01:24 PM Re: MLB "Hot Stove League" thread [Re: Hammer]
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Love it - Go Yanks!!!!


Teams like the Yankes and their money have ruined Baseball. They suck.

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#1705605 - 12/11/19 01:55 PM Re: MLB "Hot Stove League" thread [Re: Dawg Duty]
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The system in place has ruined it for sure ... I donít blame the teams much because itís within the rules and their right. They pay a luxury tax to do so.

Until there is a hard cap (and owners all agree to have a floor) then this will continue
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#1705637 - 12/11/19 04:45 PM Re: MLB "Hot Stove League" thread [Re: Dave]
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Dodgers talking Francisco Lindor trade with Indians

Bob Nightengale, USA TODAY
Dec. 11, 2019

SAN DIEGO ó Hoping to make a big splash as their World Series drought continues, the Los Angeles Dodgers are discussing a trade for shortstop Francisco Lindor with the Cleveland Indians, according to a person with direct knowledge of the talks.

The person spoke to USA TODAY Sports on the condition of anonymity because talks are ongoing.

Lindor will command an extensive return and the Indians are seeking a package centered around Dodgers top prospects 2B Gavin Lux and RHP Dustin May, both of whom reached the majors in 2019.

The 26-year-old Lindor is under team control through 2021 but the Indians are likely unable to offer him the kind of contract he should get on the open market.

Lindor debuted in 2015, finishing runner-up in AL Rookie of the Year voting and has been an All-Star the past four seasons. He won Gold Glove awards at shortstop in 2016 and 2019.

The Dodgers already have Corey Seager at shortstop, but he is also a free agent after the 2021 season.


https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ml...ans/4401683002/

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I'm not that familiar with these prospects, but it doesn't seem like enough for Lindor. I think the deal needs to include Alex Verdugo. Or maybe expand the deal to include Kluber, since the Dodgers missed on Gerrit Cole, to include Verdugo AND a second top pitching prospect beside May.

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#1705657 - 12/11/19 06:17 PM Re: MLB "Hot Stove League" thread [Re: Dawg Duty]
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blah blah blah. cry me a river...

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#1705661 - 12/11/19 06:40 PM Re: MLB "Hot Stove League" thread [Re: Hammer]
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blah blah blah. cry me a river...


Not crying, but Baseball will never get another dime from me until they make it fair. If I lived in some crappy NE town maybe i'd feel different.

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#1705666 - 12/11/19 06:57 PM Re: MLB "Hot Stove League" thread [Re: Dawg Duty]
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Nothing better than beating the Indians, although I did like the Major League baseball movie.

I often wish I had moved to Sandusky to be a Carny or something.

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#1705669 - 12/11/19 07:13 PM Re: MLB "Hot Stove League" thread [Re: Dave]
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Unless the Tribe is going to get in to discussions to sign a Cole Garrett, then they need to look at trading Lindor and Kluber.

If you know you aren't going to be able to sign them, stock the pantry with a few blue chips and ride them until you can't sign them.

Life as a Indians fan. Unless a salary cap of sorts enters baseball, NY, Chicago, LA are always going to be able to pay more due to local money. Just a fact of scale.

They make more money from radio and TV rights, advertising, etc.

No way around it. Cleveland is a fairly small market team. The only way to a championship team is with young guys on the rise.

Right now we could get a ton for Lindor.
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#1705678 - 12/11/19 07:51 PM Re: MLB "Hot Stove League" thread [Re: Ballpeen]
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MLB's player union is too strong to ever allow a salary cap of any kind - hard, soft, or otherwise. The biggest disparity among the teams' ability to compete is TV broadcast income. Not only do some of the teams have a large advantage based on market size, there are also teams that own either all or a percentage of their own networks. For example, the Dodgers own 100% of their broadcast revenues and only the portion that they choose to pay themselves are part of the revenue sharing agreement. The broadcast revenues that are collected by their self-owned network are sheltered from revenue sharing.

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/estimated-tv-revenues-for-all-30-mlb-teams/

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#1705780 - 12/12/19 12:17 PM Re: MLB "Hot Stove League" thread [Re: Dave]
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j/c...

My seats are going to be behind the net now. Groan.

It was only a matter of time, however.


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#1705817 - 12/12/19 04:09 PM Re: MLB "Hot Stove League" thread [Re: Milk Man]
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Good for MLB.

The NFL needs to now get on board. I assume the changes will come in the next CBA and this will be used as a bargaining chip.


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#1705824 - 12/12/19 05:13 PM Re: MLB "Hot Stove League" thread [Re: Dave]
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I don't think I'm buying this ...



Edit: On second thought, Austin Barnes isn't their Catcher phenom I thought he was at first (Ruiz) - Barnes is a journeyman - so I suppose this rumor could be legit. Its a great deal if true.



Edited by Dave (12/12/19 05:27 PM)

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