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#1746435 - 03/25/20 11:30 AM Free Agency - Contíd
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Itíll be interesting to see where Cam Newton and Clowney end up
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#1746438 - 03/25/20 11:57 AM Re: Free Agency - Contíd [Re: Dawgs4Life]
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An eye-opening list as we ponder the 2020
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#1 overall picks: 2010-2015

'15: Jameis Winston - free agent
'14: JD Clowney - free agent
'13: Eric Fisher - Chiefs LT
'12: Andrew Luck - retired
'11: Cam Newton - free agent
'10: Sam Bradford - free agent

https://twitter.com/AndrewSiciliano/status/1242840969478721536
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#1746440 - 03/25/20 12:22 PM Re: Free Agency - Contíd [Re: GratefulDawg]
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#1746441 - 03/25/20 12:26 PM Re: Free Agency - Contíd [Re: Dawgs4Life]
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I can't think why a team would sign Cam unless he is a back up - maybe somewhere with a mobile QB who might get dinged up? But he'd have to be on Case Keenum type money.

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#1746459 - 03/25/20 12:54 PM Re: Free Agency - Contíd [Re: mgh888]
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Originally Posted By: mgh888
I can't think why a team would sign Cam unless he is a back up - maybe somewhere with a mobile QB who might get dinged up? But he'd have to be on Case Keenum type money.
Baltimore?
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#1746466 - 03/25/20 01:07 PM Re: Free Agency - Contíd [Re: Dawgs4Life]
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I think Clowney was asking for too much money. He has played well at times and flashes that freakish athletic ability, but he has largely been inconsistent. I remember the Colts' RT absolutely abusing him in the 2018 playoffs.

Cam? I think it is about health. When healthy, he is clearly a better qb than some of the league's starters. I thought Chicago would have been a good spot for him.

Right now, I think the Chargers are the obvious match. But again, not if he isn't healthy.

I would not bring in Cam to be a backup. The ego is too massive and he would be an ongoing distraction because folks would be peppering the team w/questions any time the starter struggled at all.

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#1746510 - 03/25/20 02:26 PM Re: Free Agency - Contíd [Re: Dawgs4Life]
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#1746520 - 03/25/20 03:01 PM Re: Free Agency - Contíd [Re: GratefulDawg]
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Bell is a decent player IMO
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#1746526 - 03/25/20 03:07 PM Re: Free Agency - Contíd [Re: GratefulDawg]
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What are Cincy's other big time signings?

Did I miss something?

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#1746529 - 03/25/20 03:13 PM Re: Free Agency - Contíd [Re: Dawgs4Life]
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Blake Bell is leaving KC for Dallas. With Witten gone it might be a good opportunity for him.

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#1746535 - 03/25/20 03:36 PM Re: Free Agency - Contíd [Re: Rishuz]
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Originally Posted By: Rishuz
What are Cincy's other big time signings?

Did I miss something?



Since free agency began the #Bengals have reportedly added the following players:

DT D.J. Reader
LB Josh Bynes
S Vonn Bell
CB Mackensie Alexander
CB LeShaun Sims
CB Trae Waynes

G Xavier Suía-Filo
WR Mike Thomas

https://twitter.com/BengalsMarisa/status/1242889664115154947
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#1746537 - 03/25/20 03:46 PM Re: Free Agency - Contíd [Re: GratefulDawg]
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Why are the Bengals now allowed to sign free agents? I liked it better when they just sat out free agency and re-signed their own crappy players to bad contracts.

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#1746541 - 03/25/20 03:53 PM Re: Free Agency - Contíd [Re: cfrs15]
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Why are the Bengals now allowed to sign free agents? I liked it better when they just sat out free agency and re-signed their own crappy players to bad contracts.


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#1746543 - 03/25/20 03:57 PM Re: Free Agency - Contíd [Re: Dawgs4Life]
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Over the past five offseasons, the Bengals invested a total of $49.98M on unrestricted free agents that didn't previously play for the team.

This offseason, they've spent $127M+ on such free agents already.

A new and welcomed approach in Cincinnati.

https://twitter.com/FieldYates/status/1242901739931602953

The Burrow Effect
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#1746547 - 03/25/20 04:40 PM Re: Free Agency - Contíd [Re: GratefulDawg]
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Exactly .. they think their window is about to open
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#1746549 - 03/25/20 04:44 PM Re: Free Agency - Contíd [Re: Dawgs4Life]
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Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life
Exactly .. they think their window is about to open


I like Burrow, but if that is their thinking it's a little presumptive.

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#1746550 - 03/25/20 04:45 PM Re: Free Agency - Contíd [Re: GratefulDawg]
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Marvin Lewis must be scratching his head wondering what happened .... *L* ...
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#1746557 - 03/25/20 05:47 PM Re: Free Agency - Contíd [Re: Rishuz]
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Originally Posted By: Rishuz
Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life
Exactly .. they think their window is about to open


I like Burrow, but if that is their thinking it's a little presumptive.


If Burrow is bad then they never had a window anyway. They are doing the smart thing and building knowing they only have him cheap for four years. You canít waste any of them.

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#1746566 - 03/25/20 07:18 PM Re: Free Agency - Contíd [Re: GratefulDawg]
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Originally Posted By: GratefulDawg


I heard that it was TE Blake Bell ?
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#1746569 - 03/25/20 07:26 PM Re: Free Agency - Contíd [Re: FL_Dawg]
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Originally Posted By: FL_Dawg
Originally Posted By: GratefulDawg


I heard that it was TE Blake Bell ?


I believe he went to Dallas.
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#1746571 - 03/25/20 07:38 PM Re: Free Agency - Contíd [Re: cfrs15]
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The Bengals were never the kind of franchise to pay out big $$$ to other teams free agents
Up.until a few years ago they drafted pretty decent and paid their players.
It worked.they made the playoffs for what 4 6 years in a row ?
But lately their drafts have been bad
I think thats why they are spending $$$ at a alarming rate.
Let's be real their past 10 years has been better
Than the Browns last 10 years .

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#1746583 - 03/25/20 08:06 PM Re: Free Agency - Contíd [Re: Pdawg]
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#1746586 - 03/25/20 08:17 PM Re: Free Agency - Contíd [Re: Dawgs4Life]
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Can a team handle the sideshow CN brings with him? Don't want it here. He can be incredible, but can't get out of his own way. And he seems to be his own issue as far as self-distracting and self-destruction. Honestly, can't play ball without the set indulgent ego trip spotlighting himself. Games are hard enough to win without the extra lifting.
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#1746587 - 03/25/20 08:25 PM Re: Free Agency - Contíd [Re: Dawgs4Life]
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Donít worry bard. Cam isnít coming to Cleveland.
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#1746590 - 03/25/20 08:36 PM Re: Free Agency - Contíd [Re: Bard Dawg]
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I agree w/you, but have you ever considered those same things when looking at our QB? LOL.........he's even worse.

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#1746595 - 03/25/20 08:44 PM Re: Free Agency - Contíd [Re: Versatile Dog]
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Man, get off bakerís ass for a day or two. You know I like you, but címon.
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#1746597 - 03/25/20 08:46 PM Re: Free Agency - Contíd [Re: lampdogg]
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Are you going to tell me that Baker did not make more off-the-field noise than Cam did these past two years?

I know you like Baker, but it's not wise to call out other guys for off-the-field stuff when Baker is your qb.

And I'll post wth I like, bro.

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#1746602 - 03/25/20 09:09 PM Re: Free Agency - Contíd [Re: Dawgs4Life]
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I'll take Baker's antics over Cam's any day. I'm convinced Cam is actually an alien. However, I do think he's cute when he dresses like Whitney Houston.
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#1746604 - 03/25/20 09:14 PM Re: Free Agency - Contíd [Re: Versatile Dog]
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Yes, post what you like, for sure.

He wasnít as bad in 2019 as you, at times, suggest he was. And I know youíve been honest, and objective, about the overall picture of how BM played season.

I think he was better than his numbers showed. Several of his INTs were not his fault. I watched the nfl network replay of the Seattle game today.
Baker threw a pick, after our guy was bumped by their DB. Just one example of several INTs he got dinged for TY that werenít totally hus fault.
I also think he has to work to get better, & Iím unsure of his ability to read a D, post or pre-snap, but I still believe in him.
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#1746607 - 03/25/20 09:19 PM Re: Free Agency - Contíd [Re: Dawgs4Life]
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I just think sometimes you go out of our way - and not just sometimes lol - to bash baker.
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#1746609 - 03/25/20 09:28 PM Re: Free Agency - Contíd [Re: lampdogg]
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Bro, I wasn't talking about his on-field performance. Although, I believe he was maybe the worst qb in the league considering all the tools he had at his disposal. That's for another day. LOL

Anyway, I was talking about all the drama. The Hue trashing, the Daniel Jones trashing, the Duke trashing, the media trashing, the Tony Grossi thing when the original question was actually a good one, the qb guru trashing, the reporters not being athletic enough to play checkers even though some fo those guys are in the NFL HOF, the Rex Ryan trashing, the crap w/Cowherd, his wife saying that Brown's fans are front runners and idiots, him challenging a fan to a fight before a game, the constant comments about outside distractions when he is inviting him, etc, etc

The dude is constantly making news for the wrong reasons, lamp.

Now, I won't get on you for defending him. Opposing opinions are a good thing and I think you are a great guy. But bro, I will voice my opinion no matter what anyone says.

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#1746640 - 03/26/20 02:34 AM Re: Free Agency - Contíd [Re: Versatile Dog]
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As much as you want it to be true, Baker doesn't have any character concerns.

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#1746646 - 03/26/20 07:30 AM Re: Free Agency - Contíd [Re: devicedawg]
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Baker vs Cam Newton...biggest difference last season, Baker answered the bell 16 times in 2019..

...Newton started 2 games in 2019.

Baker has none of the issues Newton has...

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#1746661 - 03/26/20 08:57 AM Re: Free Agency - Contíd [Re: devicedawg]
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As much as you want it to be true, Baker doesn't have any character concerns.

Going to disagree with you slightly - I think there are concerns. Including how he accepts and moves on from a bad year - will he embrace the new set up and accept QB coaching?

His character off the field - he isn't a PC guy and never will be. It gives the haters a lot of ammunition and they stretch it and start fabricating half true statements. . . take the Duke comments that were discussed ad-naseum - it's not accurate in any respect to say Baker trashed Duke but here we are. Some folks are still just butt hurt that Bake planted a flag, they've even admitted as much.

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#1746664 - 03/26/20 09:09 AM Re: Free Agency - Contíd [Re: mgh888]
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j/c:

The following comes from a PFF article that analyzes the highest-paid FA contracts. You can read the entire article here: https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-analyzing-t...was-it-worth-it

Here are the parts regarding the Browns:

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TE Ė Austin Hooper, Cleveland Browns

Contract: Four-years, $42 million ($23 million guaranteed)

Was it worth it? Austin Hooper is a reliable tight end who is a weapon underneath on a quick out-route. In fact, heís produced the second-highest receiving grade and yards on such targets since he came into the league, ranking behind only Minnesotaís Kyle Rudolph in each category. That, however, is part of the problem with Hooperís massive contract. Very rarely was he tasked with winning one-on-one, and Hooperís play dropped off significantly when he was. Hooper ranks 32nd among 40 qualifying tight ends since 2016 in PFF receiving grade against single coverage. Hooper will have great production in Kevin Stefanskiís scheme, but thereís no value in paying a tight end that much who can really only produce on underneath routes.


T Ė Jack Conklin, Cleveland Browns


Contract: Three-years, $42 million ($30 million guaranteed)

Was it worth it? Injuries derailed Jack Conklin's 2018 season ó starting with a torn ACL at the end of 2017 ó which resulted in the Titans declining his fifth-year option and allowing him become an unrestricted free agent this offseason. Based off his 2019 campaign, they probably wish they had that one back. Conklin finished the year as one of the 10 highest-graded and most valuable tackles in the NFL. Clevelandís right tackle last year, Chris Hubbard, was the sixth-lowest-graded tackle of 2019 and actually performed below a replacement-level player. Throw in the fact Conklin owned the sixth-best zone run-blocking grade last year, which fits Kevin Stefanskiís rushing attack to a T, and this move becomes that much better.

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#1746682 - 03/26/20 09:51 AM Re: Free Agency - Contíd [Re: mgh888]
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Reporting the facts about his antics doesn't make you a hater. Only in the past ten years or so has stating facts about a person been given a negative label.
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#1746686 - 03/26/20 09:57 AM Re: Free Agency - Contíd [Re: PitDAWG]
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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
Reporting the facts about his antics doesn't make you a hater. Only in the past ten years or so has stating facts about a person been given a negative label.


No - facts don't. But as I clearly posted, saying Baker trashed Duke is simply not true. It was discussed in great, great, great depth. And as I said then and do now, I would have preferred a more PC answer - but Baker didn't trash anyone in that comment. The Daniel Jones comment was the same - not a good take - but he did not trash DJ.... if you wanted to push it you could say that Baker slighted DJ, but he then reached out directly and there was no ill will that I can remember being reported by the Jones.

Pit - your overly protective defense of other posters is admirable - but c'mon


Edited by mgh888 (03/26/20 09:58 AM)

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#1746687 - 03/26/20 09:59 AM Re: Free Agency - Contíd [Re: mgh888]
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Baker didn't trash Duke. But it was a glimpse into the mindset that would otherwise plague him throughout the season.

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#1746688 - 03/26/20 10:03 AM Re: Free Agency - Contíd [Re: mgh888]
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You can change the adjectives if you like. But that's more about perception than anything. Everyone certainly does have their own opinions. But from where I sit, far more people look for excuses than accountability when it comes to Baker.

You can see it as "not being PC" if you like. But surely you should be able to see how others could see that same thing as being an azz hat.
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#1746690 - 03/26/20 10:05 AM Re: Free Agency - Contíd [Re: Rishuz]
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I'd say that's pretty rampant speculation. You might be right. I'd say if you want to speculate like that, then it'd be reasonable to start speculating on whether that was a reaction to or affected by how the HC conducted and lead the team?

As to the original comment and what I responded to - it's just one more example of someone basically stretching something to a point of a lie. Was the Duke comment ideal? Absolutely not. Was it trashing Duke - no. It gets old quick.


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