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Since I had such a good time doing the intersite mock draft and reading what everyone had to say, I was hoping someone would start this thread since the last one got locked up right around the time posters started putting the divisions picks in order. Ill post everyones 3 rounds picks and have a few questions everyone can awnser.
1. Rams: superbowldogg--QB Sam Bradford, Oklahoma 2. Detroit Lions: Loki --OT Russell Okung, Oklahoma State 3. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: TopDawg16 --Ndamukong Suh, DT- Nebraska. 4. Washington Redskins: Thebigbaddawg --Gerald McCoy, DT Oklahoma 5. Kansas City Chiefs: Davy --Eric Berry, S, Tenn. 6. Seattle Seahawks: Browns26 --Bryan Bualaga, OT, Iowa 7. Cleveland Browns: DeepThreat --Joe Haden, CB, Florida 8. Oakland Raiders: Dawgpound017 --Bruce Campbell OT Maryland 9. Buffalo Bills: CaliforniaBrownsFan --Jimmy Clausen, QB, Notre Dame 10. Jacksonville Jaguars: THROW LONG --Derrick Morgan DE Georgia Tech 11. Denver Broncos (from Chicago): Kingcob --Rolando McClain ILB Alabama 12. Miami Dolphins: Hooter --Jason Pierre-Paul, DE, South Florida 13. San Francisco 49ers: legalizewd --Trent Williams, OT, Oklahoma 14. Seattle Seahawks (from Denver): Browns26 --Taylor Mays, S, USC 15. New York Giants: lampdogg --Sean Weatherspoon LB Missouri 16. Tennessee Titans: Mattack --Earl Thomas, S, Texas 17. San Francisco 49ers: legalizewd-- Dez Bryant, WR, Oklahoma State 18. Pittsburgh Steelers: Steelhack,-- C Maurkice Pouncey 19. Atlanta Falcons: Brownoholic-- Brandon Graham DE Michigan 20. Houston Texans: Moon --C. J. Spiller RB Clemson 21. Cincinnati Bengals:HotBYoungTurk -- Mike Iupati - G -Idaho 22. New England Patriots: Cleveland_clutch-- Jared Odrick DE/DT Penn State 23. Green Bay Packers:Dawgmanincincy--Kyle Wilson,CB,Boise state 24. Philadelphia Eagles:Tubby_Dawg--Dan Williams, DT, Tennessee 25. Baltimore Ravens: Dave -- Jermaine Gresham, TE, Oklahoma 26. Cleveland Browns (from Az) DeepThreat --Anthony Davis, OT, Rutgers 27. Dallas Cowboys: no_logo_required-- Brandon Ghee, CB, Wake Forest 28. San Diego Chargers: ChargerDawg --Ryan Matthews RB, Fresno St. 29. New York Jets: Buckeyed11 --Jerry Hughes DE/OLB TCU 30. Minnesota Vikings: McCutch_Forever -- Devin McCourty CB, Rutgers 31. Indianapolis Colts: Batman -- Brian Price DT, UCLA 32.Kansas City Chiefs: Davy - Sergio Kindle, OLB Texas
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Round 2 1 33 St. Louis- superbowldogg Notre Dame Golden Tate WR (rights to Tate traded to Tampa Bay) 2 34 Detroit -Loki Patrick Robinson, CB, Florida St. 3 35 St. Louis from (dawgtalker trade Tampa Bay) superbowldogg- Jon Asamoah, OG, Illinois 4 36 Saints -from (dawgtalker trade Kansas City) clwb419 – Carlos Dunlap, DE, Florida 5 37 Washington- Thebigbaddawg- Tim Tebow, QB, Florida 6 38 Cardinals- (dawgtalker trade from Cleveland) Frenchy - Demaryius Thomas WR Georgia Tech 7 39 Oakland -Dawgpound017 - Everson Griffen, DE USC 8 40 San Diego- (from Seattle) ChargerDawg - Terrence Cody - DT Alabama 9 41 Buffalo -CaliforniaBrownsFan - Cam Thomas, DT, North Carolina 10 42 Tampa Bay -(from Chicago) TopDawg16- Kareem Jackson, CB- Alabama 11 43 Miami- Hooter -Arrelious Benn, WR, Illinois 12 44 New England- (from Jacksonville) Cleveland_clutch- TE Rob Gronkowski Arizona 13 45 Denver- Kingcob- Vladimir Ducasse OT Massachusetts 14 46 N.Y. Giants- lampdogg - Lamarr Houston, Univ. of Texas 15 47 New England -(from Tennessee) Cleveland_clutch Thaddeus Gibson OLB Ohio State 16 48 Carolina -Cleveland_clutch Aaron Hernandez TE Florida 17 49 San Francisco- legalizewd Dominique Franks CB Oklahoma 18 50 Kansas City -(from Atlanta) Davy Charles Brown, OT, USC 19 51 Houston - Moon: Nate Allen, S, South Florida 20 52 Pittsburgh- Steelhack Jahvid Best, RB, California 21 53 New England- Cleveland_clutch Chad Jones, S, LSU 22 54 Cincinnati- HotBYoungTurk - Brandon Spikes - MLB -Florida 23 55 Philadelphia- Tubby_Dawg--Center Matt Tennant--Boston College 24 56 Green Bay - Corey Wooten,DE,Northwestern 25 57 Baltimore - Dave - Chris Cook, CB, Virginia 26 58 Arizona -Frenchy - Rodger Saffold OT Indiana University 27 59 Dallas - no_logo_required Alex Carrington, DE/DT, Arkansas State 28 60 Seattle -(from San Diego) Browns26 Jermaine Cunningham DE Florida 29 61 N.Y. Jets - Buckeyed11 Jacoby Ford WR Clemson 30 62 Minnesota - McCutch_Forever Colt McCoy QB Texas 31 63 Indianapolis- Batman Daryl Washington LB TCU 32 64 New Orleans- clwb419 - Tyson Alualu, DT, Cal
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Round 3 1 65 St Louis Superbowldogg WR Eric Decker Minnesota 2 66 Detroit Loki Sean Lee LB SU 3 67 St Louis ::from tampa bay:: Superbowldogg Amari Spievey, Iowa Redskins (used in suplemental) 4 68 New Orleans ::from KC:: CLWB 419 - Novorro Bowman, LB PSU 5 69 Oakland Dawgpound017 Perrish Cox, CB Oklahoma St. 6 70 Philadelphia TubbyDawg--Jared Veldeer OT Hillsdale 7 71 Arizona ::from Cleveland:: Frenchy - OLB Jason Worilds Va. Tech 8 72 Buffalo CaliforniaBrownsFan-Taylor Price, WR, Ohio University 9 73 Miami Hooter -- Akwasi Owusu-Ansah, CB, Indiana 10 74 Jacksonville THROW LONG Jonathon Dwyer RB, Georgia Tech 11 75 Chicago Punchsmack -- Selvish Capers T WVU 12 76 Giants Lampdogg: (J.D. Walton, C, Baylor) 13 77 Tennessee Mattack - Donald Butler, LB, Washington 14 78 Carolina Cleveland_Clutch- Mike Neal DT Purdue 15 79 San Francisco Legalizewd Morgan Burnett S Georgia Tech 16 80 Denver Kingcob Torrell Troup DT UCF 17 81 Houston Moon: Kevin Thomas CB - USC 18 82 Pittsburgh SteelHack - Eric Norwood LB - South Carolina 19 83 Atlanta Brownholic - Geno Atkins DT - Georgia 20 84 Cincinnati HotBYoungTurk - Mardy Gilyard - WR - Cincinnati 21 85 Cleveland --from Oakland-- DeepThreat Damian Williams, WR, USC 22 86 Green Bay DawgMan in Cincy Jason Fox, OT, Miami 23 87 Oakland Dawgpound017 Jimmy Graham, TE, Miami 24 88 Arizona Frenchy Jerome Murphy CB, South Florida 25 89 Arizona Frenchy Ricky Sapp DE/LB, Clemson 26 90 Dallas NoLogoRequired Dexter McCluster, RB/WR Ole Miss 27 91 San Diego Charger Dawg - Toby Gerhart - RB Stanford. 28 92 Cleveland DeepThreat Reshad Jones, S, Georgia 29 93 Minnesota McCutch_Forever Linval Joseph DT East Carolina 30 94 Indianapolis Batman John Jerry G Ole Miss 31 95 Kansas City Davy Andre Roberts WR 32 96 Cincinnati HotBYounturk - Montario Hardesty HB Tennessee 33 97 Tennessee Mattack - DE Austen Lane, Murray State 34 98 Atlanta Brownoholic - A.J. Edds - OLB - Iowa
Which team had the best draft (other than your own)?
Which team had the worst draft?
Which pick was the biggest reach?
Which player most likely fell the furthest?
Im hoping some grade each team in catagoires from A thru F and some discussions on each teams picks follows.
Another question. I was thinking which route to do the 49ers. Which route in the 1st round would you guys have done with the 49ers first 2 picks.
1st round 13) Trent Williams OT, Oklahoma 17)Dez Bryant, WR, Oklahoma State
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1st round 13) Talyor Mays S USC 17)Anthony Davis, OT, Rutgers (heck, maybe Trent Williams would have still been available)
I would have been happy with either scenerio.
I picked Dominique Franks CB Oklahoma in the 2nd. Since I didnt fill the 49ers biggest need at DB I felt it was a must in the next 2 rounds. That pick was my biggest reach and probabley the only pick that will actually be available in the 49ers first 3 rounds, over the players that were available. I really wanted to go Nate Allen but I knew I would get a decent FS later in the draft. I didnt know it would be Morgan Burnett though. The 49ers had a bigger need a FS than SS. I went with Franks because of his ability in the return game. He isnt a game changer in the return game but he does have experiance and in Zone coverage. I was torn between him, Akwasi Owusu-Ansah, CB, Indiana and Chris Cook, CB, Virginia. Owusu had return experiance, better size and combine numbers but I didnt get to watch him play. Franks had experiance in bigger games and playing against better players. Alot of people had Cook rated above both players. Even though I was intigued by Cooks size his combine numbers werent too good, no return experiance, and he didnt stick out to me at all during the college football season. I was really hoping Kareem Jackson, CB- Alabama fell to this spot. I didnt read much on him because he was already picked so I dont know if he has return experiance but he is good enough in coverage that I didnt care. If I picked him the 49ers could have used any round to select anyone with return skills regardless of position.
My 3rd round pick was Morgan Burnett S Georgia Tech. No way he falls this far. Burnett was tied for the nation with 9 ints. and led his team with 149 tackles his sophmore year. He went 4 and 80 something in tackles his junior year. I was origiannly going to go 3-4 OLB, but Safety was a bigger need and I feel Burnett was BPA over the 3 3-4 OLBs I was looking to select- Koa Misi, Utah; Eric Norwood, South Carolina; and Ricky Sapp, Clemson. I had them in that order even though Norwood and Sapp both went in the 3rd round mock and Misi didnt.
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This might help with the grades and discussions (divisions not finished) I thread was locked before the post I copied this from (rooster) finished all the divisions.
NFC NORTH
Chicago: Punchsmack
1st: none; 2nd: none; 3rd: Selvish Capers T
Detroit: Loki
1st: OT Russell Okung; 2nd: Patrick Robinson, CB; 3rd: Sean Lee LB
Green Bay:Dawgmanincincy
1st: Kyle Wilson,CB; 2nd: Corey Wooten,DE; 3rd: Jason Fox, OT
Tampa Bay: TopDawg16
1st: Ndamukong Suh, DT; 2nd: Golden Tate WR (rights to Tate traded to Tampa Bay), Kareem Jackson, CB; 3rd: none
NFC WEST
Cardinals
1st: None; 2nd: (2 picks) Demaryius Thomas WR Rodger Saffold OT ; 3rd: (3 picks) Jerome Murphy CB, Ricky Sapp DE/LB; Jason Worilds OLB
Rams
1st: QB Sam Bradford; 2nd: (2 picks) Golden Tate WR, Jon Asamoah, OG; 3rd (2 picks): WR Eric Decker, Amari Spievey,
Seahawks
1st: (2 picks): Taylor Mays, S, Bryan Bualaga, OT; 2nd: Jermaine Cunningham DE ; 3rd: None
49ers
1st: (2 picks) Trent Williams, OT, Dez Bryant, WR; 2nd: Dominique Franks, CB; 3rd: Morgan Burnett S
NFC EAST
Cowboys
1st: Brandon Ghee (CB); 2nd: Alex Carrington, DE/DT, 3rd: Dexter McCluster, RB/WR
Eagles
1st: Dan Williams, DT, 2nd: Matt Tennant (C) 3rd: Jared Veldeer OT
Giants
1st: Sean Weatherspoon LB; 2nd: Lamarr Houston, DL; 3rd: J.D. Walton, C, Baylor
Redskins
1st: Gerald McCoy, DT; 2nd: Tim Tebow, QB; 3rd: Redskins (used in suplemental)
AFC EAST
Bills
1st J.Clausen (QB), 2nd Cam Thomas (DT), 3rd Taylor Price (WR)
Dolphins
1st Jason Pierre Paul (DE) 2nd A. Benn (WR), 3rd Akwasi Owusu-Ansah (CB),
Patriots
1st Jared Odrick (DE/DT), 2nd Rob Gronkowski (TE), 2nd Thaddeus Gibson (OLB) , 2nd Chad Jones (S),
Jets
1st Jerry Hughes (DE/OLB), 2nd Jacoby Ford WR
AFC WEST
Broncos
1st Rolando McClain (ILB) 2nd Vladimir Ducasse (OT), 3rd Torrell Troup (DT)
Chiefs
1st Eric Berry (S), 1st Sergio Kindle (LB), 2nd Charles Brown (OT), 3rd Andre Roberts (WR)
Raiders
1st Bruce Campbell (OT), 2nd Everson Griffen (DE), 3rd Perrish Cox (CB) 3rd Jimmy Graham (TE)
Chargers
1st Ryan Matthews (RB), 2nd Terrence Cody (DT), 3rd Toby Gerhart (RB),
AFC SOUTH
Texans
1st C.J. Spiller (RB), 2nd Nate Allen (S), 3rd Kevin Thomas (CB),
Colts
1st Brian Price (DT), 2nd Daryl Washington (LB), 3rd John Jerry (G),
Jaguars
1st Derrick Morgan (DE), 3rd Jonathon Dwyer (RB)
Titans
1st Earl Thomas (S), 3rd Donald Butler (ILB), 3rd Austen Lane (DE)
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I think we shoulda went old school for the mock draft- like it was 1985. 12 rounds baby!
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I'd like to say that I would not have drafted Tebow if I knew the Skins would have traded for McNabb...
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Deep did a great job with the Browns. Haden, Anthony Davis, Damien Williams, and Rashed Jones all could be starters for our team.
If I went with a team that just kept their 3 picks and drafted who came to them it would be the Giants. They grabbed very good players at their biggest areas of need for the team.
Giants LAMP 1st: Sean Weatherspoon LB; 2nd: Lamarr Houston, DL; 3rd: J.D. Walton, C, Baylor
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Chicago: Punchsmack 1st: none; 2nd: none; 3rd: Selvish Capers T
Not really at fault here since no picks until the 3rd, but I don’t like Capers either (I think at best he’s a backup), so Chicago might end up empty here.
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Campbell @8 to Oakland. Now, Al Davis may actually pick him and that may have been the point there, but I don’t value Bruce as an OT very much especially considering the great class of OTs available.
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1. Anthony Davis might end up being a top10 pick. Deep got him for us at #26. 2. I couldn’t imagine Burnett and Rashed Jones lasting until the late 3rd. 3. Graham is another late 3rd pick who is more likely a 2nd rounder. 4. Sapp has so much potential, that I see someone taking a chance on him much higher up (after Kindle and Hughes are gone)
and Trent & Dez was definitely the way to go there for SF. Crabs/Dez/Vernon with Gore/Coffee is one heck of a battery to have. If Singletary can keep all those egos in line.
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as for the Cowboys, I really wanted to end up with an OL or S pick in my group. but, being good Browns fans that we are, all the OL picks went a bit earlier than I would have expected (except Anthony Davis who I missed by one pick) and I didn't want to reach.
I went with who I had as the best CB in round1 because they have been horribly inconsistent there and they really need to just get an upgrade and let Jenkins and Ghee (in my case) grow into their roles.
Second round, I went with Carrington because Dallas desperately needs some upgrades along the DL and some youth as well.
Finally, it wouldn't be a Jerry draft without some flair, so I added some of that flair with the last pick in Dexter who could give Jason Garrett some real good options (if he can keep Romo off his back).
what really happens though is that they probably trade their 2nd round pick to Baltimore for Gaither as many have been suggesting.
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Campbell @8 to Oakland. Now, Al Davis may actually pick him and that may have been the point there, but I don’t value Bruce as an OT very much especially considering the great class of OTs available.
Haha, yup, that's what I was going for.
I picked as Al Davis. It actually is a big need for them, but I personally would have taken the BPA there for them, which wouldn't have been Campbell. I just wanted to play it out there like I was Al Davis picking his size/speed workout specimen. The rest of the picks, I went with some values and BPAs there. I think a found a few that slid a little.
Plus I got McNabb- gotta protect him!
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This is tough. I loved the 49ers 1st round. The Giants, Texans and Saints had really good drafts as well. I'd probably go with the Saints.
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Damian Williams, Linvall Joseph, and Anthony Davis off the top of my head.
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This is tough. I loved the 49ers 1st round. The Giants, Texans and Saints had really good drafts as well. I'd probably go with the Saints.
Thanks Deep.
I gotta say I liked the Cards draft also.
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Deep did a great job with the Browns. Haden, Anthony Davis, Damien Williams, and Rashed Jones all could be starters for our team.
I agree about the Browns draft. It fills 4 huge needs and no players were a reach. I would be estatic if they Browns came away with those players. All 4 players could step in and start early in the season. Good work Deep.
I agree with what you said about o-line flying off the boards. Browns fans love their o-line. Saying that though, Im suprised with how far Trent Williams and Anthony Davis fell.
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I like what TopDawg16 did with Tampa. He got Suh, Golden Tate (I like him more than others, I think he made Clausen look good like how Winslow and edwards made DA look good) and CB Kareem Jackson. Thats 3 guys that can come in and contribute right away.
Arizona did a good job getting Jerome Murphy and Ricky Sapp in the 3rd round.
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Damian Williams, Linvall Joseph, and Anthony Davis off the top of my head.
Brandon LaFell (sp?) WR - LSU never got drafted.
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Damian Williams, Linvall Joseph, and Anthony Davis off the top of my head.
Brandon LaFell (sp?) WR - LSU never got drafted.
If I didnt draft Dez, that was my targeted WR in the latter rounds. I really like Golden Tate but he seemed to similiar to me like Crabtree. I wanted a taller speedster WR. If I got the 49ers their DB and o-lineman in the first round, I was thinking of getting him in the 2nd round even.
Utah OLB Mosi didnt get drafted either and I had him rated ahead of 3 other OLBs.
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thanks for the props, logo. I bothered some Giants fans on a MB for their needs, then went with the BPA at those positions after doing some research. I'd evaluate others but I'm not schooled enough on all these players. I'd say the 49ers and Broncos both got some good players.
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Players that I was surprised were not drafted by the end of round 3.
Ben Tate, Joe McKnight. Dan LeFevor, Tony Pike. Ed Dickson, Major Wright, Koa Misi, Javier Arenas.
Players that I was surprised to be drafted.
Austin Lane, Torrel Troup, Selvish Capers.
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There will be no playoffs. Can’t play with who we have out there and compounding it with garbage playcalling and worse execution. We don’t have good skill players on offense period. Browns 20 - Bears 17.
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I was really frustrated at the end of the 3rd for the Chargers, All the corners were gone. and Graham and Sapp were off the board a couple of picks before.
The mock provided some insight as to what others are thinking and about other specific needs. I would not be surprised if 30-35 corners were taken. I also think that RB will fall.
There will be no playoffs. Can’t play with who we have out there and compounding it with garbage playcalling and worse execution. We don’t have good skill players on offense period. Browns 20 - Bears 17.
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Players that I was surprised were not drafted by the end of round 3.
Ben Tate, Joe McKnight. Dan LeFevor, Tony Pike. Ed Dickson, Major Wright, Koa Misi, Javier Arenas.
Players that I was surprised to be drafted.
Austin Lane, Torrel Troup, Selvish Capers.
Based on tidbits here and there, would not be surprised if Troup becomes a Brown.
Also with 1/2 the teams running some semblance of a 34, his draft value will be higher than it would have been in previous draft years.
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This is tough. I loved the 49ers 1st round. The Giants, Texans and Saints had really good drafts as well. I'd probably go with the Saints.
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Damian Williams, Linvall Joseph, and Anthony Davis off the top of my head.
How could you say I had the worst draft, i filled big needs
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I already talked to you about that via PM's. I disagree. I don't think the Eagles' main needs were filled.
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their o-line is pretty banged up, and aging....gotta get fresh bodies in there....I wanted to get a OLB but when I saw Dan Williams slip that far I was more than happy to turn the card in for him.....
everything I did in my short study of Phila told me they need 0-line help
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I like what TopDawg16 did with Tampa. He got Suh, Golden Tate (I like him more than others, I think he made Clausen look good like how Winslow and edwards made DA look good) and CB Kareem Jackson. Thats 3 guys that can come in and contribute right away.
Thanks. I too, like Tate more than most. I had the thought in my head, that I HAD to come away with Tate in the 2nd round. I think he's going to be a start in the NFL.
I think I added the best player in the draft (Suh), the #2 WR, and the #2 corner.
Not only do I think I got top guys at their positions, I filled big needs for Tampa.
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I like the move Deep made to get back into the first to take Anthony Davis for us.
I like San Fran's draft, too. Coming away with Trent Williams and Dez Bryant would be a real nice draft.
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I have another question I would like to add to the discussion for the people that participated in the draft or for the people that have followed. With some of the recent trades (and this could be awnsered later for the trades that come before or during the draft), what would you have done differantly?
With my team, the 49ers traded for Ted Ginn. I selected Dez Bryant at #17 and Dominique Franks CB at #49. WR wasnt the biggest need for the 49ers because they have Crabtree and now they have Ginn who its been said that will compete with 2 other guys for the #3 WR spot. I just felt Bryant brought the 49ers offense with Gore,Crab, Davis and Coffee to a whole new level. With a draft deep in DBs I had the luxury to make that pick. Especially since Im happy with Franks and real happy with Morgan Burnett. But I feel Franks was a bit of a reach. I have seen some mocks with him being taken that high. CBSs draft site had 2-3 CBs ranked higher than Franks but still had Franks taken before them in their mock. Now knowing that the 49ers have Ginn, and even though the 49ers biggest need is CB (Safety isnt far behind) I might have went with Nate Allen from USF or Jones out of LSU over Franks. It might have change my mind on how I went in the 1st round too thinking WR is now not a need at all. I might have reached for Kyle Wilson CB Boise St.
So for those of you with teams that made a trade and for those of you following (I think McNabb was traded during this draft. I guess whoever had Philly could say what they would have done with the extra picks), is there anything you would have done differant?
no_logo- with the addition of Ginn, do you still feel Dez and Trent are still the way to go over Mays and Davis (Trent still might have been there). The teams that picked 14) Seattle too Baluaga earlier in 1st round,15) Giants took LB Witherspoon,16) Titans took Earl Thomas didnt go o-line. Or do you think Ginn wouldnt be much of a factor anyways to still grab Bryant? Heck, the addition of Ginn make that offense that much more explosive having Vernon Davis, Gore/Coffee, Crabtree, Bryant and Ginn on the field at the same time? I didnt look into the team that much to see exactly what formations they run the most or how much they use their FB. If Alex Smith couldnt win with those weopens, I would say he is a way bigger bust then Tim Couch.
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I don't believe Ginn factors in at all with that pick. SF badly needed his KR/PR abilities and was picked up almost solely for those. Anything he gives them on offense (most likely WR3 or gimmicky plays) will be seen as gravy.
Crabs/Dez/Vernon is still a crazy combo (in all senses of the phrase)
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