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I liked our first pick day and day 2......Weeden and the Hughes guy were picks that were so off value and were based on need/love and not analysis of the players true value.
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yeah, that's our 3rd round pick an undrafted FA
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I liked our first pick day and day 2......Weeden and the Hughes guy were picks that were so off value and were based on need/love and not analysis of the players true value.
agreed....
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I don't think Heckert has ever done this before? maybe he had a nervous breakdown in the draft room and an intern is making the picks? wait.. they wouldn't pick that bad. maybe it was Randy?
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I don't think Heckert has ever done this before?
Is there a school or class we can have him sign up for? A good draft involves knowing value. I want to hear the stupid story as to what made the Browns feel like they needed to get him, versus say, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, or more likely, an UFA.
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Wow.
yeah, that's our 3rd round pick an undrafted FA
meh! DT depth was a big concern and this Hughes had a pretty productive year last season with 51 tckls, 12.5 tfl and 5 sacks, with good size at 6' 2" and 309 lbs, so there might be something to work with, but it sounds like he needs motivating and probably wont help us much as a rookie.
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I'm ready to let DMIC make the rest of our picks.
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Wow.
yeah, that's our 3rd round pick an undrafted FA
meh! DT depth was a big concern and this Hughes had a pretty productive year last season with 51 tckls, 12.5 tfl and 5 sacks, with good size at 6' 2" and 309 lbs, so there might be something to work with, but it sounds like he needs motivating and probably wont help us much as a rookie.
I know the draft can be tricky, but with other high rated DTs still out there, there's a great chance he'll be there at 100 or 120. We just lost the 67th pick in the draft for nothing.
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The Browns had a golden opportunity to get significantly better with this draft and we blew it in epic fashion (as only the Browns can). We got off to a good start with TR, but the wheels came off starting with Weeden and it just got worse from there. Wow... Richardson Weeden Schwartz Hughes  I think I'm gonna be sick... 
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I'm ready to let DMIC make the rest of our picks.
You mean he hasn't been?
Can we do an IP check on DMIC and Heckert's computer?
Am I the only one that pronounces hyperbole "Hyper-bowl" instead of "hy-per-bo-le"?
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Wow.
yeah, that's our 3rd round pick an undrafted FA
meh! DT depth was a big concern and this Hughes had a pretty productive year last season with 51 tckls, 12.5 tfl and 5 sacks, with good size at 6' 2" and 309 lbs, so there might be something to work with, but it sounds like he needs motivating and probably wont help us much as a rookie.
I know the draft can be tricky, but with other high rated DTs still out there, there's a great chance he'll be there at 100 or 120. We just lost the 67th pick in the draft for nothing.
I agree that he was a reach in the 3rd round.
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The Browns had a golden opportunity to get significantly better with this draft and we blew it in epic fashion
Totally disagree.
They vastly improved the running game, the QB, and RT position.
We lost, what, 4 games by 7 or less points? Those guys alone will give us an extra TD per game, IMO.
you had a good run Hank.
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I don't think Heckert has ever done this before?
Is there a school or class we can have him sign up for? A good draft involves knowing value. I want to hear the stupid story as to what made the Browns feel like they needed to get him, versus say, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, or more likely, an UFA.
llike i said... I think he had a nervous breakdown. this is crazy. I hope he knows something that everyone else doesn't.
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The Browns had a golden opportunity to get significantly better with this draft and we blew it in epic fashion
Totally disagree.
I think we're better, but we could have done SO MUCH better. This could have been the draft we have been hoping 13 years for.
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We'll see... Right now, I don't see it beyond TR. We could have done MUCH better, IMO. I think we'll be picking top 5 again next season.
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Its like Al Davis raided our war-room. He's the only one i know that would make reach after reach and make everyone scratch their head, and then snicker....
Knew it was a stupid pick when Billick turned to Mayock and said- don't know a thing about him- you're going to have to bail us out.......
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The Browns had a golden opportunity to get significantly better with this draft and we blew it in epic fashion
Totally disagree.
They vastly improved the running game, the QB, and RT position.
We lost, what, 4 games by 7 or less points? Those guys alone will give us an extra TD per game, IMO.
I agree with you 100%.
We have 3 day 1 starters who will immediately upgrade their positions ... RB, QB, and RT. That's a pretty good way to start turning around a moribund offense. We may be planning on looking for a WR in trade, or when cuts happen. One name that was thrown around during the draft as a guy who might be available is Jacoby Jones from the Texans. I do think that experience is going to be valuable at the WR position this year as we will have a rookie QB and a rookie RB. We need some experience somewhere.
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Knew it was a stupid pick when Billick turned to Mayock and said- don't know a thing about him- you're going to have to bail us out.......
I was watching ESPN and missed that. ESPN glossed over it. Don't think they had anything to say, including Kiper.
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One name that was thrown around during the draft as a guy who might be available is Jacoby Jones from the Texans.
I wondered if anyone else caught that..lets hope 
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