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Excellent point.
No qb has taken a more severe beating than Luck has since he's come into the league. He's a really tough guy, but man, I don't think anyone can endure that.
I also wonder if he isn't starting to develop some bad habits as a result of constantly being pounded while throwing?
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The Colts need to have a really good season and not fire Chuck Pagano..
Andrew Luck needed a new HC scares the crap out of me.. David Shaw is also available. Either way, that job is the cream of the crop. Not many times you can get a job where there is a 25 year old franchise QB in place. They don't need a coach, they need a GM that can put some people in the trenches and maybe play some defense.. they are going to get Luck killed. Pagano is getting fired. That's all I'm saying.
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Pagano is getting fired. That's all I'm saying. He very well may... but I will still contend that what's going wrong there largely is not his fault.
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Pagano is getting fired. That's all I'm saying. He very well may... but I will still contend that what's going wrong there largely is not his fault. Agreed. I think Grigson has done a horrible job. He "Lucked" into a QB and drafted T.Y. Hilton.
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Griggson is trash and hasn't helped Chuck Pagano at all. Pagano has had to use cast offs from other teams.
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Couple of HUGE Big 10 West games this week. Minnesota vs Northwestern and Iowa vs Wisconsin. Northwestern always shines in Septemeber, time to see if they can do it the rest of the season.
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Hey, don't be knocking my alma matter!  We deserve a spot in the top 25.
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Want to know why you should let a coach go when it's time? Look at Texas. Mack Brown nuked them of talent.
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Been beatin' that drum since last season... I want Josh Doctson and I mdon't care if we spend a first on him. The guy is AJ Green.
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Been beatin' that drum since last season... I want Josh Doctson and I mdon't care if we spend a first on him. The guy is AJ Green. I'll remember you saying that. I've only seen him one time, but hopefully we draft him then.
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Texas is an abomination right now. How in the HECK can you field this bad of team in that state?!
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Wisky is trying everything to lose to Iowa right now... Very Browns-esque performance for them today...
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I don't know how long it will last, but it's awesome that Northwestern is off to this start. I know they have a recent history of nice starts, but considering they opened up against Stanford, this is a little more impressive. Sucks, because they get no love around here in the Chicago area.
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I figured Bama would win, but like that? And NO WAY did I think Florida could beat Ole Miss so convincingly.
TCU and Baylor looked great, even though they were playing trashy teams.
Notre Dame is going to lose.
Maybe Toledo cracks the Top 25 in the AP tomorrow. They were ranked 26th last week.
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The irony is that regardless of who wins out of Michigan and Northwestern next week, you still won't know how good either team really is..
MSU and OSU can continue to play crappy as long as they want though..
Am I the only one that pronounces hyperbole "Hyper-bowl" instead of "hy-per-bo-le"?
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so next week's rankings?
OSU
MSU
TCU
Baylor
USC
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Utah vs Cal is gonna be a huge game next week. That's probably going to decide who wins the Pac 12 imo. Time to see how Goff shines on a huge pressurized stage. It's going to be a prime time game with ESPN in attendance.
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so next week's rankings?
OSU
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USC Ohio State TCU MSU Baylor UCLA LSU I don't think there is much difference between any of these teams right now. We'll probably have a better idea once the calendar turns over to November and the stronger teams obviously start to show.
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 Toledo cracked the top 25! We're ranked #24.
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Toledo cracked the top 25! We're ranked #24. If they had some receivers that could catch, they'd really have something special. Ely's a great qb.
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Awesome! Congratulations. I root for all Ohio teams except for the Bengals.
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I'm really excited for the Maryland vs Ohio State game next week. I honestly think the Terps could crack the 100 barrier...
That's yards, not points. smdh...
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Shoot.............the game will probably go to OT.
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Maryland QBs over the last 2 games...
24/72 (33.2%), 229 yds (3.2 ypa), 1 TD, 8 INTs, 6 points
Y'all should be looking at this game as a chance for OSU to get some of its swagger back.
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Maryland QBs over the last 2 games...
24/72 (33.2%), 229 yds (3.2 ypa), 1 TD, 8 INTs, 6 points
Y'all should be looking at this game as a chance for OSU to get some of its swagger back.
If we're coming close to losing anything it's the turnover battle.
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It's all good, we'll turn it over about 5 times to help cancel that out.
Northwestern vs Michigan should be a really good game. Hope it's prime time.
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Utah vs Cal is gonna be a huge game next week. That's probably going to decide who wins the Pac 12 imo. Time to see how Goff shines on a huge pressurized stage. It's going to be a prime time game with ESPN in attendance. Utah is the south and Cal is in the north. The game will affect the Pac-12, but it won't decide anything.
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Jack was a great player and great personality.
It does not look good for his career. It's just his meniscus, players have come back from much worse. If I were him I'd just stop going to class and start preparing for the draft right now. Jack declared for the draft today.
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1) Shawn Oakman, DE Baylor
2) Josh Doctson, WR TCU
3) Ricky Seals-Jones, WR Texas A&M (or Bear Wilson, WR Miss St)
4) Kareem Hunt, RB Toledo
4c) Casanova McKinzy, ILB Auburn
5) Trevon Stewart, FS Houston
5c) Yannick Ngakoue, OLB Maryland
5c) Joe Schoebert, ILB/OLB Wisconsin
6) Travis Wilson, QB Utah
6c) Tyler Marz, OT Wisconsin
7) Quayvon Hicks, FB Georgia
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1) Shawn Oakman, DE Baylor
2) Josh Doctson, WR TCU
3) Ricky Seals-Jones, WR Texas A&M (or Bear Wilson, WR Miss St)
4) Kareem Hunt, RB Toledo
4c) Casanova McKinzy, ILB Auburn
5) Trevon Stewart, FS Houston
5c) Yannick Ngakoue, OLB Maryland
5c) Joe Schoebert, ILB/OLB Wisconsin
6) Travis Wilson, QB Utah
6c) Tyler Marz, OT Wisconsin
7) Quayvon Hicks, FB Georgia What pick do we use to draft Oakman?
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I guessed around 10. It's an optimistic assumption on the rest of the season.
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1) Shawn Oakman, DE Baylor
2) Josh Doctson, WR TCU
3) Ricky Seals-Jones, WR Texas A&M (or Bear Wilson, WR Miss St)
4) Kareem Hunt, RB Toledo
4c) Casanova McKinzy, ILB Auburn
5) Trevon Stewart, FS Houston
5c) Yannick Ngakoue, OLB Maryland
5c) Joe Schoebert, ILB/OLB Wisconsin
6) Travis Wilson, QB Utah
6c) Tyler Marz, OT Wisconsin
7) Quayvon Hicks, FB Georgia Would love this draft
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Do you really think Wilson will last until the 6th round?
Am I perfect? No
Am I trying to be a better person?
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I guessed around 10. It's an optimistic assumption on the rest of the season. If we don't get the #1 pick (and I don't think we will), I'm hoping a team like the Lions or Dolphins somehow gets it. They can't draft a QB, so they would probably trade the pick.
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Do you really think Wilson will last until the 6th round? I'm not sure... I was going off of CBS' rankings that have him undrafted. I haven't seen him this year but last year he showed some real potential. I thought he played an excellent game against a great USC defense last season.
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Don't you think we need to take a QB in the 1st round? (I do.)
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Don't you think we need to take a QB in the 1st round? (I do.) I think we need to see what Johnny does. I think we also need to see what QBs are available when we pick (and we don't know when that will be.)
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