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Swish #1018170 10/18/15 03:07 PM
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can we get to manning today?

at least once?


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Here comes the nail


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Originally Posted By: Swish
can we get to manning today?

at least once?


With what pass rusher? The Browns don't really have a speed rush guy unless you count Mingo who's undersized.

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This is why I don't want this staff to get another year, they don't know what they are doing


The new staff won't know either. We need to let someone learn.

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The ineffectiveness of the Browns run game is causing the Broncos to blitz almost every single down.


we had success early - at least marginal - and we have gotten away from it and went to deeper passing...consequently Denver is blitzing and getting to Josh...


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Shelton has been a bust so far. No penetration and doesn't need to be double teamed.


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Poor defense to have to play with no breaks by the Browns offense.

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Originally Posted By: myka
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This is why I don't want this staff to get another year, they don't know what they are doing


The new staff won't know either. We need to let someone learn.


Bingo.


LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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Originally Posted By: myka
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This is why I don't want this staff to get another year, they don't know what they are doing


The new staff won't know either. We need to let someone learn.


Horse hockey


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No one chanting for Johnny anymore? I don't wonder why.


Were they earlier?


No.

I'm just sayin' after his last escapade drinking, well, it just seems different now.

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The ineffectiveness of the Browns run game is causing the Broncos to blitz almost every single down.


we had success early - at least marginal - and we have gotten away from it and went to deeper passing...consequently Denver is blitzing and getting to Josh...


That's the benefit of running the ball; it wears down the defense, slows down the pass rush, and it has the benefit of giving your defense a breather if at least marginally effective.

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This is why I don't want this staff to get another year, they don't know what they are doing


The new staff won't know either. We need to let someone learn.


Horse hockey


If someone's learning basic game management into the season then they should be fired too.

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He burned up whatever trust he had left.


LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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Originally Posted By: leadtheway
Shelton has been a bust so far. No penetration and doesn't need to be double teamed.


Why would people think a rookie NT would just step in right away and be productive? Don't they usually need an NFL off season with strength and conditioning to be effective? If anything, the Browns usually get gashed on runs that are on the edges near the OLB's, not up the middle.

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and now desir is starting to get worked on by thomas.


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We're gonna need a turnover of our own.


Going to have to be an interception. Can't get a strip sack when you can't get a sack.....


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Originally Posted By: leadtheway
Our front 7 is hot garbage


So far, the Browns defense, has a turnover, and has held the Broncos to 3 earned points.

The Browns offense, has given a pick 6, for 7 pts, and a turnover on the first play of a drive, which led to another 3.

The Offense, of the Browns, is in need of coaching, talent investment, cohesion, continuity, teamwork, togetherness, and a kick in the pants.

Ya Know, After that pick 6, in the first half, the Browns defense stopped em 4 straight times, and this Browns offense,

Complimentary football can get even 1 score? No. Not till the 2nd half.


..The offense, the Offense, the Offense, just a hap-hazard group trying to prove it "belongs" in the NFL, not a group that can be said to be the "best" in the NFL.

And That There! is why the Browns can't get to 8-8 or a winning season.


Can Deshaun Watson play better for the Browns, than Baker Mayfield would have? ... Now the Games count.
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Originally Posted By: Schadenfreude
Originally Posted By: Swish
can we get to manning today?

at least once?


With what pass rusher? The Browns don't really have a speed rush guy unless you count Mingo who's undersized.


Mingo doesn't play much anymore nor is it his job to pass rush much anymore.

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This may be it


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has mingo done anything today?


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Great, now the passing game is working for them. Grrr.


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Originally Posted By: 3rd_and_20
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can we get to manning today?

at least once?


With what pass rusher? The Browns don't really have a speed rush guy unless you count Mingo who's undersized.


Mingo doesn't play much anymore nor is it his job to pass rush much anymore.


If he doesn't pass rush, you drafted the wrong player for your scheme or you're using him in the wrong way. Especially at the position he was drafted at.

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He burned up whatever trust he had left.


That's pretty much it.

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Playing like they don't want to win the game...


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good coverage williams!!!


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Originally Posted By: myka
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This is why I don't want this staff to get another year, they don't know what they are doing


The new staff won't know either. We need to let someone learn.


Why would an NFL staff not know how to handle NFL players and schemes? I would buy the fact that we have change O-Coordinates and D-Schemes and QBs so often that is why...I'd prefer they just say we don't have the right players yet and are building..but to say they are leaning..for some reason that just is a cop-out to me


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Even a fg here seals it


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Originally Posted By: Schadenfreude
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can we get to manning today?

at least once?


With what pass rusher? The Browns don't really have a speed rush guy unless you count Mingo who's undersized.


Mingo doesn't play much anymore nor is it his job to pass rush much anymore.


If he doesn't pass rush, you drafted the wrong player for your scheme or you're using him in the wrong way. Especially at the position he was drafted at.


There is a thread running about him right here, if interested:

https://www.dawgtalkers.net/ubbthreads.ph...ing-time#UNREAD

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Originally Posted By: slick
Even a fg here seals it


Too much time left to make that statement...


WE DON'T NEED A QB BEFORE WE GET A LINE THAT CAN PROTECT HIM
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This is one of those games you can put the blame squarely on Farmer. Can't win one of these with no playmakers.


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Whatever happened to that zone blocking we do so well?

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We're just not a very good team. At the most, we're a decent bad team.


Browns is the Browns

... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.

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Originally Posted By: Schadenfreude
The ineffectiveness of the Browns run game is causing the Broncos to blitz almost every single down.

The Browns were running the ball well until the Broncos realized we can't complete a 5 yard pass.


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Defense continues to hold to FG's...what more can you ask of them? Come on O - time to do your part!


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We're just not a very good team. At the most, we're a decent bad team.



Well said purple

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Originally Posted By: HewDawg
Whatever happened to that zone blocking we do so well?


If Farmer hadn't been texting the sidelines last year, Kyle Shanahan might still be here with that very scheme.


WE DON'T NEED A QB BEFORE WE GET A LINE THAT CAN PROTECT HIM
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Originally Posted By: PrplPplEater
We're just not a very good team. At the most, we're a decent bad team.



Is that like a positive negative? frown


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Mccowns decision making blows


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sigh...


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benji!!!!


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