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A couple days after winning the Super Bowl, Steve Young goes in to the Niners training facility to empty his locker. On his way out he walks past a window looking out on the practice field and he sees Jerry Rice out there, all by himself, working out running routes.
That is something Johnny doesn't have in him. Being completely dedicated to the sport and to being the best at it.
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Jist sad when you have guys playing their butts off with drive and dedication and silly little Manziel off in his fun little stupid world!
How about silly little Moore, Hayden,Winston and Williams off in their fun little stupid world? How many people have to respond, directly to you, with blatant answers to your silly little question before you stop with the nonsense? No wonder you love #2...good lord. And which one of those above is considered a "leader" on this team or the future of the franchise?
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I listed to the JT presser on Browns postgame. Not only did the hosts flat out admit Browns HAVE to get rid of the circus/virus that is #2, but Joe essentially said if they fire Pettine and keep #2 then he's not coming back. Nate Ulrich ‏@NateUlrichABJ #Browns LT Joe Thomas said he might ask for way out of organization depending on what changes are made to coaching staff, front office. Link
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Yet ALL reports say he did everything right in the building and improved on the field. The entire question about Manziel is off field according to all reports.
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Jist sad when you have guys playing their butts off with drive and dedication and silly little Manziel off in his fun little stupid world!
How about silly little Moore, Hayden,Winston and Williams off in their fun little stupid world? How many people have to respond, directly to you, with blatant answers to your silly little question before you stop with the nonsense? No wonder you love #2...good lord. And which one of those above is considered a "leader" on this team or the future of the franchise? Any player can step up to be a leader.
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If Johnny is to be traded, can it be anytime, or is there a specific timeline in the NFL when it can only be done?
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he sees Jerry Rice out there, all by himself, working out running routes.
That is something Johnny doesn't have in him Does Johnny need to practice running routes ? Especially under the concussion protocol.
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Jist sad when you have guys playing their butts off with drive and dedication and silly little Manziel off in his fun little stupid world!
How about silly little Moore, Hayden,Winston and Williams off in their fun little stupid world? How many people have to respond, directly to you, with blatant answers to your silly little question before you stop with the nonsense? No wonder you love #2...good lord. And which one of those above is considered a "leader" on this team or the future of the franchise? Any player can step up to be a leader. "Can" operative word. But who among them has had the opportunity and has not? You obviously are not worth my time. Bye!!
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On how difficult it is to be successful in the NFL when your starting QB is completely unreliable and a ‘mess’: “I see where you are going. (Manziel’s) issues have been well documented. You say, mess. Can I say, work in progress? If you look at our season and what I just said, we have gotten great production and some damn good leadership from that room. That started with the signing of (QB) Josh McCown. He has been outstanding. He was our starter. He got hurt, Johnny stepped in and I thought (QB) Austin (Davis) did some good things, too, under some tough circumstances. I get it, but I am not going to sit here and use an excuse that just because we drafted a quarterback high and he is maybe not where he ideally should be that it was the downfall of what happened here or that was the reason.”
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You obviously are not worth my time. Bye!!
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Should Manziel be allowed to do whatever he pleases and then lie about it, without any consequences?
So some of you believe Johnny is so special, the team rules do not apply to him. Johnny doesn't have to be a team player or support his teammates.
And this is too freaking funny...first some doubt the accuracy of the stories...then when more and more comes out and it indeed does look like Johnny went partying in Vegas last night, those people now say, so what if Johnny tried to lie his way out of it.
...it's ok if lil Johnny really didn't have a concussion and then tried to lie his way out of his night in Vegas.
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N Should Manziel be allowed to do whatever he pleases and then lie about it, without any consequences?
So some of you believe Johnny is so special, the team rules do not apply to him. Johnny doesn't have to be a team player or support his teammates.
And this is too freaking funny...first some doubt the accuracy of the stories...then when more and more comes out and it indeed does look like Johnny went partying in Vegas last night, those people now say, so what if Johnny tried to lie his way out of it.
...it's ok if lil Johnny really didn't have a concussion and then tried to lie his way out of his night in Vegas.
According to many posters yes, he creates and follows his own rules of egocentricity!
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Any player can step up to be a leader.
"Can" operative word. But who among them has had the opportunity and has not? They all have the opportunity all they have to do is take it.
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N Should Manziel be allowed to do whatever he pleases and then lie about it, without any consequences?
So some of you believe Johnny is so special, the team rules do not apply to him. Johnny doesn't have to be a team player or support his teammates.
And this is too freaking funny...first some doubt the accuracy of the stories...then when more and more comes out and it indeed does look like Johnny went partying in Vegas last night, those people now say, so what if Johnny tried to lie his way out of it.
...it's ok if lil Johnny really didn't have a concussion and then tried to lie his way out of his night in Vegas.
According to many posters yes, he creates and follows his own rules of egocentricity!
But Manziel has an ace up his sleeve...he is the "owners boy"...and he knows it.
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N Should Manziel be allowed to do whatever he pleases and then lie about it, without any consequences?
So some of you believe Johnny is so special, the team rules do not apply to him. Johnny doesn't have to be a team player or support his teammates.
And this is too freaking funny...first some doubt the accuracy of the stories...then when more and more comes out and it indeed does look like Johnny went partying in Vegas last night, those people now say, so what if Johnny tried to lie his way out of it.
...it's ok if lil Johnny really didn't have a concussion and then tried to lie his way out of his night in Vegas.
According to many posters yes, he creates and follows his own rules of egocentricity!
But Manziel has an ace up his sleeve...he is the "owners boy"...and he knows it.Unless the owner is a total and complete dunce, he knows that we are not getting anyone credible if Manziel is on the team. It is possible that he is a total and complete dunce. Let's hope his wife is smart. In Dee we trust!
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N N Should Manziel be allowed to do whatever he pleases and then lie about it, without any consequences?
So some of you believe Johnny is so special, the team rules do not apply to him. Johnny doesn't have to be a team player or support his teammates.
And this is too freaking funny...first some doubt the accuracy of the stories...then when more and more comes out and it indeed does look like Johnny went partying in Vegas last night, those people now say, so what if Johnny tried to lie his way out of it.
...it's ok if lil Johnny really didn't have a concussion and then tried to lie his way out of his night in Vegas.
According to many posters yes, he creates and follows his own rules of egocentricity!
But Manziel has an ace up his sleeve...he is the "owners boy"...and he knows it. Yep, Mac, I understand. 20 years ago I married one. However, when a desire to turn it around comes, it is obvious and evident. Manziel does not exhibit this. And, I guess we will see if Mommy and Daddy oil are in bed with Haslam oil, and Manziel is the golden boy. After the Thomas presser, sure hope this is not the case. This entire situation is defeating to this team.
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H N Should Manziel be allowed to do whatever he pleases and then lie about it, without any consequences?
So some of you believe Johnny is so special, the team rules do not apply to him. Johnny doesn't have to be a team player or support his teammates.
And this is too freaking funny...first some doubt the accuracy of the stories...then when more and more comes out and it indeed does look like Johnny went partying in Vegas last night, those people now say, so what if Johnny tried to lie his way out of it.
...it's ok if lil Johnny really didn't have a concussion and then tried to lie his way out of his night in Vegas.
According to many posters yes, he creates and follows his own rules of egocentricity!
But Manziel has an ace up his sleeve...he is the "owners boy"...and he knows it.Unless the owner is a total and complete dunce, he knows that we are not getting anyone credible if Manziel is on the team. It is possible that he is a total and complete dunce. Let's hope his wife is smart. In Dee we trust! Behind every good man.........
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Unless the owner is a total and complete dunce, he knows that we are not getting anyone credible if Manziel is on the team. It is possible that he is a total and complete dunce. Let's hope his wife is smart.
In Dee we trust!
I honestly believe Haslam has some screws lose and he is in love Manziel to the point that Johnny can have special rules and Haslam doesn't mind.
You will notice, Haslam was silent about Pettine punishing Manziel for lying. Haslam never came out n support of Pettine.
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Should Manziel be allowed to do whatever he pleases and then lie about it, without any consequences?
So some of you believe Johnny is so special, the team rules do not apply to him. Johnny doesn't have to be a team player or support his teammates.
And this is too freaking funny...first some doubt the accuracy of the stories...then when more and more comes out and it indeed does look like Johnny went partying in Vegas last night, those people now say, so what if Johnny tried to lie his way out of it.
...it's ok if lil Johnny really didn't have a concussion and then tried to lie his way out of his night in Vegas.
I think you and CJ might be confused. I'm with you guys 100% on this. I was responded to Vambo and his silly "Yeah but was the waterboy at the game today?? Huh?? Huh?!!" #2's actions are unacceptable...but then that's been true with him since HS and why it was such an utter total colossal cluster-f that we ever drafted him to begin with. The sooner he's gone, the sooner we can move on and try and finally take a step forward as a franchise (at least as much as Haslam allows).
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I doubt he's here next year, so I don't even care. haven't cared all year. first year since nfl rewind came out i didn't bother getting it. knew most of the players and all the coaching staff would be gone next year.
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I think you and CJ might be confused. I'm with you guys 100% on this. I was responded to Vambo and his silly "Yeah but was the waterboy at the game today?? Huh?? Huh?!!"
I clicked on reply but was not replying to you.
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I don't even try to figure the JM stuff out. He may be an idiot and he may be being subverted. Who knows. I do know that most NFLers aren't being scrutinized every time they take a leak! Dump the kid if necessary or support him if you think he has something.
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Uh oh. What will people say?!?!? (Please ignore the fact that the rules say that Manziel cannot be on the sideline): Sidelines for an NFL Game is a Big honor,Browns/Steelers Rivalry even Better!Johnny Manziel apparently not on sideline?I can't fathom
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I honestly wonder if Haslam has not been bought off to intentionally keep this franchise from winning.
His acts are that of someone who is nuts or some kind of addict himself.
Haslam helped to create the reasons this team could not build upon last years 7-9 record and now he is going to try to blame his GM and HC.
Haslam wanted Hoyer gone and he wanted Johnny boy starting. All of the losses the Browns had on defense, Pettine didnt want that...that was Farmer with the backing of Haslam.
Yet Pettine will pay the price for Haslam dumb ass management decisions.
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Should Manziel be allowed to do whatever he pleases and then lie about it, without any consequences?
So some of you believe Johnny is so special, the team rules do not apply to him. Johnny doesn't have to be a team player or support his teammates.
And this is too freaking funny...first some doubt the accuracy of the stories...then when more and more comes out and it indeed does look like Johnny went partying in Vegas last night, those people now say, so what if Johnny tried to lie his way out of it.
...it's ok if lil Johnny really didn't have a concussion and then tried to lie his way out of his night in Vegas.
I think you and CJ might be confused. I'm with you guys 100% on this. I was responded to Vambo and his silly "Yeah but was the waterboy at the game today?? Huh?? Huh?!!" #2's actions are unacceptable...but then that's been true with him since HS and why it was such an utter total colossal cluster-f that we ever drafted him to begin with. The sooner he's gone, the sooner we can move on and try and finally take a step forward as a franchise (at least as much as Haslam allows). I got it Graff. All good here
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Jist sad when you have guys playing their butts off with drive and dedication and silly little Manziel off in his fun little stupid world!
How about silly little Moore, Hayden,Winston and Williams off in their fun little stupid world? How many people have to respond, directly to you, with blatant answers to your silly little question before you stop with the nonsense? No wonder you love #2...good lord. And which one of those above is considered a "leader" on this team or the future of the franchise? Any player can step up to be a leader. not true.i know alot of hard working, smart people that if you put in a leadership role fall apart.
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Oh Mac, you are priceless!! Haslam bought off... wow. You "honestly wonder" that scenario? LMAO!!
This is exactly the season I feared the Browns would have, once I saw those players who got the boot. I'm not the least bit surprised to see 3-13.
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I honestly wonder if Haslam has not been bought off to intentionally keep this franchise from winning. He did come from Steelers organization...lol
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I honestly wonder if Haslam has not been bought off to intentionally keep this franchise from winning. He did come from Steelers organization...lol Rooney money can be far reaching
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First, it's Haden. Second, nobody cares about Moore and Winston because they are dime a dozen special-teamers, not the former 1st RD QB who by himself controls half of the success or failure of the franchise.
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he's just trying to spin out of it bro. don't let him get to you.
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First, it's Haden. Second, nobody cares about Moore and Winston because they are dime a dozen special-teamers, not the former 1st RD QB who by himself controls half of the success or failure of the franchise.
Follow Lauren Brill @LaurenBrill5 Browns team source tells me Justin Gilbert told coaches he wouldn't go into game today. #browns Link No big to do over this FIRST FIRST ROUND PICK? There's no big to-do because Justin Gilbert doesn't deserve a job in the NFL and it's widely accepted everywhere. Cut him tonight for all I care. Addition by subtraction.
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