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Then they REALLY DON'T want a GM. Just a glorified scout and yes man.

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We will not have a coach who wants full control.

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They need to put an overhead mic on the reporters.

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Originally Posted By: 1oldMutt
After the coach!


Smells of Mangini/Kokinis to me.


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Jimmy...successful teams never give a lawyer the power of GM!

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Originally Posted By: DeisleDawg
Sashi having final say.. does that make sense ?


Of course not, but what the hell.

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OK...what other teams hire their coach first and then go out and hire their GM? I don't care how it's done...just looking for opinions from those of you who follow this stuff more closely in terms of organizational make up. All I want is for Haslam to get it right. Cleveland fans are LONG overdue for a winner.

Keep Scheiner out of things. That's a start. Also good to hear that the new guys will have the say on Manziel. Goodbye Johnny. We need serious people to come in here and work. You're not qualified. Thanks. Now go back to the casino, bar or wherever your next party is.


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At least Randy Lerner let his football people do their things.

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Originally Posted By: Dawg_Traveler
You think this leads into a Saban type development? Where the Coach will be a part of the GM hiring...

Dream on, even Saban couldn't turn this mess around.

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Haslam denies report the Doug Marrone to be first HC interviewed.

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Browns owner Jimmy Haslam said he, wife Dee, consultant, Sashi Brown will hire coach. Then coach will help hire GM.


Umm .... isn't that backwards?


Every way works. Find the right people. We've done both.



Yeah, but what does a business owner, his wife, an attorney and a consultant really know about football skill positions and talent? Scary stuff me thinks


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I'm sure that Sashi is just the figure-head for the final say.... It's just a way to structure this so Jimmy has the final say...

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Not feeling too good after that...

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Well, that was short. Looked like he saw the reporters ready to pounce and said "Well, I better get outta here like I did with my lawsuit!"

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Browns owner Jimmy Haslam said he, wife Dee, consultant, Sashi Brown will hire coach. Then coach will help hire GM.


Umm .... isn't that backwards?


Every way works. Find the right people. We've done both.



Yeah, but what does a business owner, his wife, an attorney and a consultant really know about football skill positions and talent? Scary stuff me thinks


We will see, won't we?

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Originally Posted By: cfrs15
We will not have a coach who wants full control.


And that is a good thing.


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Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.

John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
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Originally Posted By: DeisleDawg
Sashi having final say.. does that make sense ?


Sounds like a situation a quality GM will want to walk in to. banghead


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It sounds like they're looking for two marionette's to manipulate

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I'm sure that Sashi is just the figure-head for the final say.... It's just a way to structure this so Jimmy has the final say...


I get the same feeling.

This is a mess.


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Well, that was short. Looked like he saw the reporters ready to pounce and said "Well, I better get outta here like I did with my lawsuit!"


I didnt get that feeling at all...guess we will see how this turns out.

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This is the worst I've ever felt about the Browns....and that's really saying something.

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We will not have a coach who wants full control.


And that is a good thing.


I thinks so to..

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Well, that was short. Looked like he saw the reporters ready to pounce and said "Well, I better get outta here like I did with my lawsuit!"


I didnt get that feeling at all...guess we will see how this turns out.


I did. He looked like he ran out of memorized answers, and ran.


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Sashi Brown to be the new Banner, will hire GM figurehead at later date. Sashi will be in complete control of roster. Including FA and draft. His will be the final say on draft night.

What kind of "GM" will take a job with zero control over the roster and no input on the head coach? A YES MAN.

In essence Sashi Brown, a non-football bean counter will be our GM and President.

This firm better find us one HELL of a football coach because my faith in Sashi Brown drafting our players is zilch. Farmer had more experience.


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Originally Posted By: 1oldMutt
It sounds like they're looking for two marionette's to manipulate


Exactly. Wow! He could skip the GM and save some dollars. He most definitely wants "yes" people.


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Could have just said Saban turned me down and now i dont have a real plan but i had to fire someone to show the browns faithful i still care about the team.

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I'll be GM for only 15.00 an hour

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j/c:

I wish someone would have asked the real tough questions like if we can go back to the old uniforms and remove the snaggle-toothed dog on all the posters.


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Originally Posted By: Spiritbro77
Sashi Brown to be the new Banner, will hire GM figurehead at later date. Sashi will be in complete control of roster. Including FA and draft. His will be the final say on draft night.

What kind of "GM" will take a job with zero control over the roster and no input on the head coach? A YES MAN.

In essence Sashi Brown, a non-football bean counter will be our GM and President.

This firm better find us one HELL of a football coach because my faith in Sashi Brown drafting our players is zilch. Farmer had more experience.


The question is: Will it matter who the coach is if he gets stuck with a garbage roster? "GM" to find the talent but Sashi has the final call.

Stay tuned I guess.


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So ..... we're also "keeping" some coaches .... before the head coach is hired? Really? Is this only till the new coach is hired, or just a forced marriage?


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I am actually thinking I wish we still had Farmer and Pettine now.... blah...... Can I continue to follow this garbage? I don't know. I thought we were at rock bottom but it keeps getting worse.

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Originally Posted By: JulesDawg
This is the worst I've ever felt about the Browns....and that's really saying something.


I feel the same way. I thought this season was the worst I ever felt about the Browns. I now feel even worse.

At least this is not a change for the sake of offering hope, because now I have none.


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Brown and Scheiner must be Svengalis.

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Originally Posted By: YTownBrownsFan
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Well, that was short. Looked like he saw the reporters ready to pounce and said "Well, I better get outta here like I did with my lawsuit!"


I didnt get that feeling at all...guess we will see how this turns out.


I did. He looked like he ran out of memorized answers, and ran.


What more could he say?? I dont like the Sashi thing...but nothing I can do about it but wait or quit watching..which very well may happen.

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Originally Posted By: YTownBrownsFan
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I'm sure that Sashi is just the figure-head for the final say.... It's just a way to structure this so Jimmy has the final say...


I get the same feeling.

This is a mess.


Either way it's a mess. Sashi Brown isn't a GM. He doesn't know how to scout players. Haslam just made Sashi Brown the new Banner. A bean counter with complete roster control. Now he will hire a yes man to take the fall as "GM" if things go wrong and Brown will be the one drafting and signing FA's for the future.


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I think we can pretty much forget about Eliot Wolf for GM as that position appears to be nothing more than head of scouting under Haslem.


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Originally Posted By: YTownBrownsFan
So ..... we're also "keeping" some coaches .... before the head coach is hired? Really? Is this only till the new coach is hired, or just a forced marriage?


I can't blame him for this comment (I can blame him for a lot more). The new coach should be able to retain the coaches he wants.

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Originally Posted By: Cjrae
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It sounds like they're looking for two marionette's to manipulate


Exactly. Wow! He could skip the GM and save some dollars. He most definitely wants "yes" people.


Could it be that he is putting his team of people who will communicate and collaborate well? That is why the coach will be part of the GM search...His wife and lawyer "SHOULD" tell him the truth and he should trust them...It seemed like all season everyone was on a different page...not saying this will work but if everyone is on the same page and gets along enough to be open and honest, maybe we can move forward in a positive way...


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