DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum Johnny Manziel discussion continued

It can most definitely be done.

He is definitely that stupid. Remember when he was partying on the bye and told everyone it was an old video?

I should have known better to discuss this w/you.

You completely miss the point.

Explain to me what I'm missing.

I'm done with the guy. I stood up for him, but he clearly does not want to be here. Later JFF.

Finally!

Thank you.

He can't answer the phone. He has a cold.

Maybe if Manziel kept a lower profile, then people wouldn't be so quick to call him out when he acts the wrong way.

good bye johnny because johnny was not good at all.

Same here

So...................why aren't you guys talking about Gilber, who REFUSED to go into the game?

He was picked 14 spots higher than Johnny? Why no hate there?

You guys are so full of crap!!!!

Because everyone already hates Gilbert.

What is wrong with you? No one is talking about Gilbert because everyone knows he is awful and should be cut.

....and there is another thread about Gilbert?

What's wrong w/me is how freaking fake you guys are!

Does that answer your question?

Gilbert is a piece of crap too! You should be busy doing the Hillary Clinton thing to all his news reports as well.

You do it for Johnny and don't even like him that much.

Both of these guys already knew that the coach wasn't going to be around to do anything about it and went back to being their normal selves.

You are right that I don't like Johnny all that much. I also don't like double standards and hypocrisy.

I am not excusing JM for his sins. I just wonder why people don't talk about Gilber and Haden w/the same passion?

I think other than a very few misguided individuals on this board, most people have given up Gilbert. Nobody is calling him the next Richard Sherman and demanding that he start like they are saying JFF is Drew Brees or Russell Wilson.

I did make a post about Haden before but was asked by a ref not to talk about the particular subject if I can't post a link about it, which I can't. Right now, what I know has not made the media. Needless to say I think that the NFL will eventually make a decision for the Browns on Joe Haden next year.

I hear you. I just think that it is unfair that one guy gets so much hate while others, who are just as--if not more--guilty are never talked about and in some cases, defended.

I'll drop it...........I just have never been a fan of bullying.

I do And don't forget meathead lol. He's been a BIG help this season

Johnny, Meat, Leon, etc. They all have that "I'm bigger than the game" attitude. We need to find guys that want to play the game at a high level and are willing to WORK at being the best.

Looool!! Who the hell cares what the kid does? I sure don't anymore. Just look at how this franchise handled itself. I'm really tired of our stupid owner constantly berating him,when he could have just said..."Pass on him" in the first place. If anyone is to blame it's Haslam,as this is HIS franchise,and could at anytime order the firing of staff and players whenever he sees fit.
But nooooo,he sat by for two drafts while that idiot Farmer wasted pick,after pick,after pick. He sat by,while Pettine played merry go round with the QBs all the time,never making anyone feel supported in the starter role. Think anyone is going to respect that as a player,when all they see is a bunch of doo doo decisions,and instability throughout? My gosh,even our OC didn't want to be here....

The don't bash Joe because he doesn't deserve it.

most of them don't bash Gilbert much ANYMORE is because they gave up on him during his first season.


They still bash Johnny because the wounds are still fresh. They still held out hope that he would turn his life around both on and off the field (OK most of them don't give a crap about him off the field) They really hoped he would solve our QB problems. It's a emotional reaction do to the pain, and disappointment they feel bro.

C'mon Vers, while Manziel and Gilbert are both fruits, it's like comparing kiwi's and kumquats. The reason you don't see so much hate for Gilbert is because there's no one who's been showing him love either. For every Manziel hater on the board, there's a Manziel pimp.

Who's been pimping Gilbert? No one has blamed Pettine for making him lie, no one has blamed Pettine for "holding him back", no has been making the excuses for Gilbert like they have Manziel. So in regards to Gilbert, aside from being a blown draft pick, what is there to discuss? On top of that, Gilbert really hasn't provided the red meat that Manziel has.

As for Haden? I really don't know much one way or the other about his situation. Should they be skewered about not being at the game? I don't know. If it were a road game not too many inured players make that trip. Does anyone know if there are some sort of rules as to who and how many undressed players you can have on the sideline? That aside, I would also assume that based upon the severity of your concussion and where you are in the protocol, some players may not have the same requirements.

I will say this about Haden: I find it curious he's been out so long and had to be put on IR for it. There's no reason I can think of that I would doubt it's a legit injury, but having said that, if it is serious enough for him to miss all this time, we MAY need to consider his spot on the roster. NOT saying he should be dumped, but missing that much time for a head injury would suggest its more than just a minor bell ringer.

Lmao

-jc-

Good Bye Johnny. Tried to give you the benefit of the doubt, I no longer can. Another wasted 1st round pick to add to the heap. (And that heap is large and smelly)

Whether he is doing this on purpose to get cut or he is an addict I really don't care. Cut his butt as soon as you can.

JM obviously wants out of this dumpster fire. And we'll be fleeced again by an evil empire.

Report: Browns 'so done' with Manziel, so what's next for him?

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdo...-013439391.html

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It's too bad... or is it? I think the kid has something, but he certainly seems like he doesn't want to play here anymore and is a distraction for the team.

I can't blame him for wanting out of Cleveland. We are a mess, as usual.

I like how they say "so done" as if the source was a teeny bopper from Laguna Beach.

All that was left out was..."Oh my god, I'm..."

Yahoo reporting at its finest!

That's well said. (though it does seem that Haden has issues within the locker room from some reports)

I will say one thing that really concerns me about Haden. He spent a lot of time with Gilbert over this past off-season, and we see how little that did. Manziel is supposedly one of his closest friends on the team, and we saw how Manziel has behaved. Maybe Haden is just trying to help the most troubled players on the team, but it is telling that there are rumors of concerns about him in the locker room, in addition to these issues.

We are a mess, but Johnny is at the center of that mess. We fired most of the people responsible for setting the dumpster aflame (or at least keeping the fire going). Johnny is the main guy left. He has skills, so get something higher than a 5th or 6th, and help him pack his bags. If anyone thinks he'll magically clean up his act in Dallas... I don't know what to say to you.

If what's been reported is true (not showing up to medical yesterday), then I'm solidly in the "I've given you the benefit of the doubt for too long" crowd.

at this point, manziel has got to go.

we got the second pick in the draft. unless the QB's in the draft are gonna fall to late in the 1st/2nd like the 2013 class did, then we need to pick one Goff or Lynch.

if they do fall, grab Bosa, trade up and grab one of the QB's.

Can someone put my mind at ease about Goff?

Where would he rank of amongst the QBs of the last 5 or so years?

Are we talking another Winston and Mariota or are we talking Gabbert and Weeden? What's he closer to? Is he just a good QB in a poor class?

Why couldn't we have the second pick last year? That sucks.

Manziel obviously cannot be depended on. I was holding out hope but time to move on.

trade him to Jax for a conditional 2019 7th rounder.

Goff is easily the best QB to ever play football.

at his school? or ever?

me thinks you're exaggerating.

Ever.

1. Goff







2. Everyone else

(What's a better way to put someone's mind at ease than to convince them that their new QB is the best QB ever?)

you can just tell them that they are better than weeden, quinn, manziel, mccown, mccoy, wallance, delhome, dilfer, couch, holcomb, lewis,

umm....anderson, Dorsey....

who else am i missing.

Frye, Davis, Garcia, Campbell, Hoyer, Weeden, Gradkowski, Dorsey, Detmer, the list goes on and on.