DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum Johnny Manziel discussion continued

you can just tell them that they are better than weeden, quinn, manziel, mccown, mccoy, wallance, delhome, dilfer, couch, holcomb, lewis,

umm....anderson, Dorsey....

who else am i missing.

How could you forget the immortal Spergon Wynn, and Doug Peterson?

So Johnny showed up for a team meeting today.

I wonder if Johnny got out of the meeting without one of the veterans punching his lights out.

The players know exactly what Johnny pulled..faking a concussion then lying about partying his ass off in Vegas and his lame attempt to cover it up.

IMO, that is what he needs..a teammate to jack him up.

Originally Posted By: mac
Originally Posted By: BADdog
So Johnny showed up for a team meeting today.


I wonder if Johnny got out of the meeting without one of the veterans punching his lights out.

The players know exactly what Johnny pulled..faking a concussion then lying about partying his ass off in Vegas and his lame attempt to cover it up.

IMO, that is what he needs..a teammate to jack him up.


Hey, maybe Rex will let us borrow that LB that put Geno Smith in his place?

Goff is easily the best QB to ever play football.

I wonder if Johnny got out of the meeting without one of the veterans punching his lights out.

The players know exactly what Johnny pulled..faking a concussion then lying about partying his ass off in Vegas and his lame attempt to cover it up.

IMO, that is what he needs..a teammate to jack him up.

if they do fall, grab Bosa, trade up and grab one of the QB's.

I think Goff has a couple of weaknesses that will be hard to overcome in the NFL:

--he does not have great arm strength

--he forces the ball into coverage

--his decision making is suspect.

I wonder if Johnny is too big for Cleveland? People freak out if has a beer in his hand. They pick and pick and pick and blow things out of proportion simply because they don't like the kid.

I can envision him going to a place that is a bit more tolerant of his off-field activities while finding success on the football field.

Later, Cleveland fans will say things like: "I supported Johnny the entire time and said we should have kept him." Or, "Johnny really grew-up after he left Cleveland."

LOL............

..........but, here is something else to consider:

We may lose Joe T, Mack, and Schwartz. Now, wouldn't it be just like the Browns to put a rookie qb behind a decimated OL?

I wonder if Johnny is too big for Cleveland? People freak out if has a beer in his hand. They pick and pick and pick and blow things out of proportion simply because they don't like the kid.

I can envision him going to a place that is a bit more tolerant of his off-field activities while finding success on the football field.

Later, Cleveland fans will say things like: "I supported Johnny the entire time and said we should have kept him." Or, "Johnny really grew-up after he left Cleveland."

I don't think Manziel cares about his career.

I don't think Manziel cares about his career.

Man I am/was on his side but he is making me second guess that support...if he does want out of here that bad...this was the wrong way to go about it

I remember Romo having a few bumps along the way, and a guy named Rapistberger - who did pretty stupid stuff.

Problem here is, with social media and 24/7 sports "journalism", if Johnny walks funny people will be saying they saw him partying. The NFL microscope is just ridiculous, and things get blown out of proportion.

Either Manziel is a 23 kid with lots of money and no one around to parent him, or he simply wants out of the mess that is the Cleveland Browns and knows that in Jerry Jones' world, his behaviour is colorful.

It comes down to this ... he's more talented than any QB the team has had in years, and the team can't afford to waste another 1st rounder on a QB. So hire someone to the coaching staff who has rapport with the kid and try to help him make better decisions.

Not once has his effort on the field ever been in question.

Wow! Really? Late to meetings, no show for concussion medical check, coaches going to his home to get him prior to a game.......these are all related to the social media microscope...right? Not! Manziel is an immature and egocentric child.

You must not have heard Joe Thomas' post game presser to realize the damage this idiot is doing to this team. I will put more stock in what a real pro has to say about this situation than anyone on this board.

At some point, you just have to cut bait and move on.

If I were in charge, I'd cut Manziel and Gilbert today and not look back.

If Sashi is as smart as they say I'd like to him hornswoggle the Cowboys with JM.

Late to meetings, no show for concussion medical check, coaches going to his home to get him prior to a game.......these are all related to the social media microscope...right?

If Sashi is as smart as they say I'd like to him hornswoggle the Cowboys with JM.

Of course not. But the stories getting out have everything to do with social media and current microscope of 24/7 sports news.

The media loves guys like Manziel. Heck the kid makes their job easy and gives them stuff to talk about.

But he is a kid and he has a ton of talent. He needs help. And the team has invested a few million reasons on why they should help him.