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Gase expected to hire Vance Joseph as Dolphins’ defensive coordinator Posted by Michael David Smith on January 9, 2016, 12:32 PM EST HOUSTON, TX - CIRCA 2011: In this handout image provided by the NFL, Vance Joseph of the Houston Texans poses for his NFL headshot circa 2011 in Houston, Texas. (Photo by NFL via Getty Images) New Dolphins head coach Adam Gase appears ready to hire his defensive coordinator. Bengals defensive backs coach Vance Joseph will become the Dolphins’ defensive coordinator as soon as the Bengals’ postseason is over, Alex Marvez of FOX Sports reports. This will be Joseph’s first job as a defensive coordinator. He’s previously coached defensive backs in Houston and San Francisco, as well as at Bowling Green, Colorado and Wyoming. Joseph was an option quarterback at Colorado in the 1990s and had a brief NFL playing career as a defensive back with the Jets and Colts. The Dolphins are also planning to hire Matt Burke as linebackers coach, Clint Hurt as defensive line coach and Jerome Henderson as defensive backs coach. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/201...ve-coordinator/
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Grateful, I heard that was not confirmed.
Wow, Gase will have control of the 53-man roster. A lot of power given to untried head coach. No way Cleveland should commit to such. Thinking back McDaniels getting similar deal.
More and more I look at it. Get a coach to coach a GM to find players and owner who believes.
As for Cleveland with Brown having control, I see it more as Sashi's department is in control. He'll have authority in principal, but in the end you want a cohesive group working together.
I get Sashi will have problems obtaining the right guy from a limited pool. But, the FO, more than anything, needs to get their s__t together in order to turn it around.
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One of these in that order, should be our next coach by Monday Hue! Haslam needs a football guy. Marvin Lewis is a no nonsense kind of guy. He hired Jackson enough said. Being all the AFCN coaches coached their team for several years. Why go elsewhere?
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This is a fluff piece, but the more I learn about Henderson, the more I am convinced that he will wind up being our guy. 5 things to know about Jerome Henderson http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/arti...36-f8541f1ad0a4Throughout the Browns’ search for a new head coach, ClevelandBrowns.com will break down the candidates after their interview with the team’s search committee is complete. It continues today with a look at Jerome Henderson, the first candidate to have a past with the Browns. 1. Henderson is the first candidate to interview who has spent extensive time in the Browns’ facility in Berea. Henderson came to Cleveland in 2009 with Eric Mangini, whom he coached under the previous two seasons with the New York Jets. Though Mangini was fired at the end of the 2010 season, Henderson remained with the Browns for one more season in the same position under Pat Shurmur. He reunited with former Browns defensive coordinator Rob Ryan in Dallas for the 2012 season and has remained with the Cowboys under multiple other defensive coordinators. 2. In Cleveland, Henderson was Joe Haden’s first defensive back coach. Haden is the lone remaining defensive back who was with the Browns during Henderson’s tenure. Haden, who had six interceptions as a rookie, often credited Henderson for his quick adjustment to the NFL. "He was on top of me, as far as my technique would go," Haden told MLive.com in October 2013. "I mean, every single day, every practice play, he would never, ever get off my back. He was a big reason. He kept pushing me to never take any plays off and get my technique more and more sound every practice." 3. The Cowboys went through a woeful 2015 season and finished with one of their worst records in years, but pass defense wasn’t an issue. Dallas finished the year fifth in the league, allowing 227 yards through the air per game. The Cowboys allowed just five players to go over 100 receiving yards and intercepted eight passes. Or did teams not pass as much on them due to being ahead and running the ball to eat clock? I remember one of our 4-5 win seasons having a top 10 pass defense for a large part of the year when we were getting smacked down every Sunday. 4. In a January 2012 meeting with reporters, Henderson was asked if he’s laid back or more of a taskmaster. “I’m whatever I need to be at the time,” he said. “There are times when I’m laid back. There are times when I get aggressive because the situation dictates me to be aggressive. It’s situational football, even for me as a coach. I got to be able to come into the situation and say, ‘what do I need to be with this group to get them where we’ve got to go?’” 5. As a player, Henderson was a second-round pick out of Clemson in 1991. He lasted eight years in the NFL with four different teams -- New England, New York Jets, Philadelphia and Buffalo -- and appeared in 98 games (34 starts). Henderson played in two Super Bowls, one with the Bills and another with the Patriots, but came away on the losing end of both. Henderson played for Hall of Fame coaches Marv Levy in Buffalo and Bill Parcells in New England and New York.
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Gase is out. He signed with Miami. Bet he ends up being the one we should have hired. He gets the most out of a QB. Of course that's not as important as being a math geek into sabermetrics lol. By letting Gase out of Cleveland without signing already shows that the hierarchy is incapable of action. Absolutely clueless Or they decided that Gase wasn't ready to be a HC
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I guess we will see if the issue hiring a top coaching candidate wa due to Banner and his personality or if it is a product of Jimmy Haslam being the owner. One does not necessarily eliminate the other.
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I guess we will see if the issue hiring a top coaching candidate wa due to Banner and his personality or if it is a product of Jimmy Haslam being the owner. One does not necessarily eliminate the other. YTown, I'm a bit confused here. I think I'm siding with you on this one. Do we really know Gase was Cleveland's leading candidate? Gase got a sweet deal in Miami. I'd be afraid if Browns better it. By the way, how does the GM in Miami differ than the guy Cleveland will hire? It appears his job was reduced to talent evaluating.
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I rue the day that the idiot Haslam fired Banner. Why? Because his draft was so superior? Mingo is a bust and I can't even remember the corner he drafted in the 2nd because he was gone in the blink of an eye. If you liked Banner you'll LOVE Sashi Brown. ALL analytics ZERO football knowledge. He's a Banner clone. Or perhaps that is a bit unfair.... IF he allows others to make the football decisions and doesn't let ego cloud his judgement, then he isn't a Banner clone. We shall see.
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I read that Gase isn't planning on hiring an offensive coordinator. I think that is a mistake for a 1st time HC.
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I guess we will see if the issue hiring a top coaching candidate wa due to Banner and his personality or if it is a product of Jimmy Haslam being the owner. One does not necessarily eliminate the other. YTown, I'm a bit confused here. I think I'm siding with you on this one. Do we really know Gase was Cleveland's leading candidate? Gase got a sweet deal in Miami. I'd be afraid if Browns better it. By the way, how does the GM in Miami differ than the guy Cleveland will hire? It appears his job was reduced to talent evaluating. I don't think we have a leading candidate yet. Does the headhunting group we hired have a leading candidate? So far it seems they are interviewing a lot of assistants. Is there a list? Anyway, Gase wasn't going to wait around for this franchise when Miami was offering a nice deal..... I want a name coach, hopefully one with a RING. However, of the underlings they have interviewed and are thought to be talking to in the weeks ahead, Gase should have been at or near the top IMO. He has worked with a number of QB's and gotten the most out of them. Sure would be nice to have a head coach that can work with a QB. He's also done that in a number of different systems. He had to tailor an offense for Tebow, and then adapt to Mannings needs. He's adaptable. As I said, I didn't have a huge crush on the guy, but if all they are going to do is interview assistants then Gase and McDaniels should be the top condidates IMO. We need to find a QB and we need a coach that can work with him. I'd also talk to Shanahan. Not sure he'd take the call after textgate, but I'd dial the number.
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I read that Gase isn't planning on hiring an offensive coordinator. I think that is a mistake for a 1st time HC. As long as he hires a good QB coach he should be fine. He was going to call the plays anyway.
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Link to my above comment Adam Gase - C - Dolphins Dolphins VP of Football Operations Mike Tannenbaum said new HC Adam Gase will have control over the 53-man roster. It's a lot of power for a first-year coach with only coordinating experience. Recently-promoted GM Chris Grier will be limited to the draft and free agency. Gase will also handle play-calling and doesn't expect to hire an offensive coordinator. The Dolphins are clearly all-in on Gase. http://www.rotoworld.com/sports/nfl/football?r=1
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I thought first name Patricia. lol I thought how revolutionary. We go with analytics + a female head coach. I say why not at this point!
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Gase is out. He signed with Miami. Bet he ends up being the one we should have hired. He gets the most out of a QB. Of course that's not as important as being a math geek into sabermetrics lol. By letting Gase out of Cleveland without signing already shows that the hierarchy is incapable of action. Absolutely clueless Gase was the first guy they interviewed it wouldn't be very smart to hire the first guy without interviewing other potential Head Coaches especially considering we hadn't even satisfied the NFL Rooney rule at that time.
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For all of you saying the Browns don't know what they are doing by not signing Gase didnyou ever stop to think HE DECIDED HE DIDN'T WANT TO BE HERE? ........with that being said I do agree the browns have no clue what they are doing. ...
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I guess we will see if the issue hiring a top coaching candidate wa due to Banner and his personality or if it is a product of Jimmy Haslam being the owner. One does not necessarily eliminate the other. YTown, I'm a bit confused here. I think I'm siding with you on this one. Do we really know Gase was Cleveland's leading candidate? Gase got a sweet deal in Miami. I'd be afraid if Browns better it. By the way, how does the GM in Miami differ than the guy Cleveland will hire? It appears his job was reduced to talent evaluating. What I meant was the it didn't have to be an either/or case with Banner and Haslam .... it could be that this job would be a tough sell with either one of them.
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I want us to hire a Head Coach.
I don't want us to hire a good OC or DC.
I want a guy thats going to be the Head Coach.
For example (IMO) Miami just hired Gase, he's goind to run the offense, he's basically an OC than will hire someone to be DC.. There isnt going to be a "Head Coach" on that team unless Gase grows into that role over time..
I don't want that.
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This is a fluff piece, but the more I learn about Henderson, the more I am convinced that he will wind up being our guy. 5 things to know about Jerome Henderson http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/arti...36-f8541f1ad0a42. In Cleveland, Henderson was Joe Haden’s first defensive back coach. Haden is the lone remaining defensive back who was with the Browns during Henderson’s tenure. Haden, who had six interceptions as a rookie, often credited Henderson for his quick adjustment to the NFL. "He was on top of me, as far as my technique would go," Haden told MLive.com in October 2013. "I mean, every single day, every practice play, he would never, ever get off my back. He was a big reason. He kept pushing me to never take any plays off and get my technique more and more sound every practice." Henderson has joined the Dolphins training staff. https://twitter.com/alexmarvez/status/685870751908511744I wonder if the interview was a nod to certain players? It's odd to see him just so quickly accept another job so quickly after interviewing for one.
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I'll go with the guy with a grizzly beard and a backwards hat. He'll fit in here. I am pretty sure he is gonna be the next coach of the Browns.
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I'll go with the guy with a grizzly beard and a backwards hat. He'll fit in here. I am pretty sure he is gonna be the next coach of the Browns. I agree. I only know what I've read about him in the last couple days, but he seems like a good fit for this new team structure. He's also a guy who has, twice in his career, left or passed up a better paying position for a job doing what he wanted to do. It's a good bet, if he takes the job, it's because he wants it.
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Let's review where we are at with our coaching interviews:
Already interviewed
Gase - Out - New HC Miami Henderson - Out - Took a position Coach job with Miami Marrone - Doesn't seem to be any post interview interest Austin - Doesn't appear to be any post interview interest
Intervies scheduled for this weekend - confirmed
Patricia McDermott Jackson
Other interviews planned - unconfirmed
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My top choice would be Coughlin but that doesn't look like an option. Of the interviewees listed above the three interviewing this weekend for sure are my top 3. I would need to actually talk with them before I could rank them
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Jester, as I linked earlier, they interviewed Matt Patricia today.
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Maybe I should have labeled the groupings differently. Interviewed, confirmed scheduled and rumored. The way I named the groups PAtricia fits in two grooups.
Any word on how that interview went?
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The sooner tho other teams get their coaches, the sooner we'll be able to pick from the left overs.
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The sooner tho other teams get their coaches, the sooner we'll be able to pick from the left overs. How do you know this? They can't offer contract to someone still in the playoffs. I think Partrisa is the target. If he is then they can negotiate with his agent under the table so to speak.
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No word, but that is pretty much the only way it could be. The Browns, if they want him, can't offer him the job until the Patriots season is over. They can schedule another interview with him after the Conference Championship week. If after their other interviews, they make that 2nd interview, I think it would be safe to assume he's their guy. Will that be mutual?
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Hire Patricia. Find a QB. Fill roster with more talent. ??? Superbowl.
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Hire Patricia. Find a QB. Fill roster with more talent. ??? Superbowl. First, Hyper-Bowl 
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I don't like what Gase is putting on his plate, but if I were him, that's as good of a situation to walk into as possible. Control of the roster, a young QB with potential, good edge rushers, stud young receivers in the making, and an owner who keeps to the martini in his glass away from the field. Our roster is nowhere close to that.
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Hire Patricia. Find a QB. Fill roster with more talent. ??? Superbowl. If the Browns won a Super Bowl first year out of the gate with a new HC and this analytics driven FO; next year everybody is doing major analytics.
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I don't like what Gase is putting on his plate, but if I were him, that's as good of a situation to walk into as possible. Control of the roster, a young QB with potential, good edge rushers, stud young receivers in the making, and an owner who keeps to the martini in his glass away from the field. Our roster is nowhere close to that. I had never heard Gase speak before so I watched a clip of his presser yesterday. I have to say the guy was pretty unimpressive. Not that means all that much, but it just surprised me after all the hoopla about him.
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I’m not buying into stat’s being the be all end all, I think there a tool like everything else and it’s important to look at stat’s but there are too many variables to give stat’s an undo amount of weight.
The list of things that would need to be measured to rely on stats is long. Where did they play, who coached them how did those players do at the next level the list is so damned long the variables are so plentiful and then you have to decide how much weight you give each variable.
Hell I would like to know how a stat guy thinks that dumping JT and AM makes the Browns better in the short or long term?
As is true in almost everything balance is probably the most important factor, but where is the balance when you give the stat guy final say? I think Haslam is on to something I really do but he is giving stat’s to much weight, by all appearances.
If you take stats and compare it to what the Haslam/Text team did then stats will win out. Texts/Haslams big problem was they tried to turn over too much of the roster to fast without waiting to see how things blended together.
Is there a stat for players playing together? I imagine there is and is that the key to future success? I think that is the KEY to success personally and it’s just that simple but Haslam still hasn’t figured that one out.
I think Haslam has gone too far and Haslam/Text team has driven him to it. He is in the paint by the numbers school of thought cause Haslam/Text team was oh so bad at what they did. Haslam doesn’t trust himself (and he shouldn’t) or anyone else for that matter to make good decision so he has decided that he would let stat’s alone decide how the Browns hire and fire and do everything they do, and IMO it’s a huge mistake. Which actually doesn’t surprise me a bit, I almost expect it.
Where is the stat for the owner is an idiot? Here is the thing that I have learned over the years, just cause you own something doesn’t mean you’re the person who should be making the decision. When Haslam learns that he will be on to something until then prepare yourself to suffer.
Make no mistake folks Haslam is the guy pulling ALL the strings and that’s the real mistake he is making.
Year 1 he pushes character off the table and drafts Gilbert and JF. He knows after year one he made a huge mistake and moves character way up the totem pole. He did follow the Steelers way of doing things and failed to factor in that we are talking about the Browns and we have a piss poor history with getting players to buy into what we are doing because we are failures.
A player comes in here and thinks (rightly) we are idiots because we constantly lose, and so character becomes huge. Where as a team like the Steelers or NE can bring these guys in and turn them around because they have credibility the player buys in more quickly. I don’t need stats to tell me those things but Haslam does by all appearances.
The one thing I will say in Haslam’s favor is he knows he don’t know so he wants something to help him make better decision, but make no mistake Haslam makes the decisions and that is the dick in the mayonnaise, and that isn’t going to change.
My thoughts are that I wonder what it will be next after this fails.
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Been listening to some of Jackson's old Raiders press conferences and I like this guy because he tells it like it is, no sugar coating something. Sounds more like an actual human being rather than some robot coach. I think I would like to have this guy as our coach.
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