|
|
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 1,185
Dawg Talker
|
Dawg Talker
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 1,185 |
Its obvious JACKSON sucks as a HC because no good coach would take this job.
great we got a coach no one else wanted.
Just another yes man Haslam
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 14,322
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 14,322 |
I don't know too much about head coaches, who's good, who isn't, so it's great to hear that most here are excited by our new one... (For once!)
P.S.
Now we don't have to hear SuperBrown say, "What's a Hue Jackson?"
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 14
Rookie
|
|
Rookie
Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 14 |
Read an article on Twitter today that said don't be surprised if the browns try to acquire Colin Kaepernick. Don't shoot the messenger just passing the info along.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 42,413
Legend
|
|
OP
Legend
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 42,413 |
Names to look out for: Pep Hamilton, Mike Solari, and Bob Wylie. https://twitter.com/jasoncolebr/status/685911022255894528Hamilton was Andrew Luck's college QB coach. Solari was the 49ers offensive line coach under Harbaugh. Wylie is currently coaching in Canada.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 3,643
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 3,643 |
Not knowing who the D coordinator will be I ask this about Paul Kruger. Washed up or mishandled since his arrival?
I think they need a system to unleash the guy if he's in the plans. Still trying to figure out what exactly Pettine wanted out of him.. I believe he can play. I don't believe he is a grade A pass rusher. He could be a nightmare if you have another guy on your defense that teams have to worry about. I hope we hang on to him. A certain kid from Ohio State maybe? Thats what I'm thinking!
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 2,856
Dawg Talker
|
|
Dawg Talker
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 2,856 |
Its obvious JACKSON sucks as a HC because no good coach would take this job.
great we got a coach no one else wanted.
Just another yes man Haslam
Was that suppose to be in purple or.......? Just having fun with another poster... he knows who he is /...LOL  Actually he was my third choice but hell at least he brings some experience and success. not a newbie and not a threadbare retread... smart, aggressive, they say get me an aggressive D
#gmstrong
A smart person knows what to say.
A wise person knows whether or not to say it.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 1,185
Dawg Talker
|
|
Dawg Talker
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 1,185 |
Read an article on Twitter today that said don't be surprised if the browns try to acquire Colin Kaepernick. Don't shoot the messenger just passing the info along. I heard that on the radio today, too. Apparently, Jackson was enamored with Kaepernick when he was coming out of Nevada. This worries me because I'm sure the 49ers would be willing to trade him at this point. Unrelated, I wonder where RGIII will end up now that he is out of Washington.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 5,386
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 5,386 |
We will be seeing Terrelle Pryor in the wildcat this year.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 14
Rookie
|
|
Rookie
Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 14 |
Read an article on Twitter today that said don't be surprised if the browns try to acquire Colin Kaepernick. Don't shoot the messenger just passing the info along. I heard that on the radio today, too. Apparently, Jackson was enamored with Kaepernick when he was coming out of Nevada. This worries me because I'm sure the 49ers would be willing to trade him at this point. Unrelated, I wonder where RGIII will end up now that he is out of Washington. If I remember reading the article correctly it said they almost traded back into the first round to get him. Maybe if they are that stuck on getting him they can trade Johnny for him straight up.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 9,806
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 9,806 |
I wonder if Sf would do a Kaepernick for Manziel trade - straight up.
Manziel is done here and Kaep is done there. Perhaps both would benefit rom a new start?
Am I perfect? No
Am I trying to be a better person?
Also no
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 5,386
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 5,386 |
Read an article on Twitter today that said don't be surprised if the browns try to acquire Colin Kaepernick. Don't shoot the messenger just passing the info along. I heard that on the radio today, too. Apparently, Jackson was enamored with Kaepernick when he was coming out of Nevada. This worries me because I'm sure the 49ers would be willing to trade him at this point. Unrelated, I wonder where RGIII will end up now that he is out of Washington. I think RG3 winds up in Dallas. Billy Football will wind up on a reality TV show with Paris Hilton.
Last edited by DeputyDawg; 01/13/16 05:24 PM.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 42,413
Legend
|
|
OP
Legend
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 42,413 |
I wonder if Sf would do a Kaepernick for Manziel trade - straight up.
Manziel is done here and Kaep is done there. Perhaps both would benefit rom a new start? Kaepernick has a huge contract. I would only want him if he restructured his contract to a much lower number. Even then I would still draft a QB high. I would guess that Chip Kelly wants a shot with Kaepernick if he gets the 49ers job.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 5,386
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 5,386 |
I wonder if Sf would do a Kaepernick for Manziel trade - straight up.
Manziel is done here and Kaep is done there. Perhaps both would benefit rom a new start? Kaepernick has a huge contract. I would only want him if he restructured his contract to a much lower number. Even then I would still draft a QB high. I would guess that Chip Kelly wants a shot with Kaepernick if he gets the 49ers job.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 42,413
Legend
|
|
OP
Legend
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 42,413 |
I wonder if Sf would do a Kaepernick for Manziel trade - straight up.
Manziel is done here and Kaep is done there. Perhaps both would benefit rom a new start? Kaepernick has a huge contract. I would only want him if he restructured his contract to a much lower number. Even then I would still draft a QB high. I would guess that Chip Kelly wants a shot with Kaepernick if he gets the 49ers job. I know this. But we would just be taking on his contract.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 12,065
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 12,065 |
Kaepernick is not a good QB.
He is a baseball player pretending to be a running back trying to be Quarterback..
Am I the only one that pronounces hyperbole "Hyper-bowl" instead of "hy-per-bo-le"?
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 52,469
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 52,469 |
And yet still got to the playoffs, and a super bowl.
Last edited by Swish; 01/13/16 05:40 PM.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
- Theodore Roosevelt
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 595
All Pro
|
|
All Pro
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 595 |
Kaepernick is not a good QB.
He is a baseball player pretending to be a running back trying to be Quarterback.. But he is at least better than the baseball player pretendig to be a running back trying to be a Quarterback that we have. I'm not saying that I want him but he some success early on.
Last in, first out, the sign of a true champion!![[Linked Image from i301.photobucket.com]](http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn59/Stetson1376/c8f5fed9-fc01-4b87-bda3-b2b53f0b16cb_zpse708e05e.jpg)
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 5,915
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 5,915 |
Inspired hire. Hiring another Coordinator was definitely the way to go. A much better choice than hiring an experienced head coach. Certainly better than picking a guy that's already won a Super Bowl.How could we continue to play like Browns hiring a proven winner?
Welcome to Cleveland Mr. Jackson. The place where Coordinators get their shot at coaching and ultimately kill their careers....
It would seem the Browns will never hire an experienced winning head coach. We will always hire Coordinators with little or no experience. So be it.
Our team now consists of Sashi Brown, a lawyer with no scouting experience building the roster. A sabermetrics math geek from the baseball world doing who knows what? And a head coach that's had one solitary year in the big chair. Perfection personified.
#BlackLivesMatter #StopAsianHate
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 42,865
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 42,865 |
Well, Joe doesn't have a choice. WE do. but he doesn't. I've been on my phone app for the last hour, gees twitter is on fire over this move..You'd have thought we won the superbowl or something LOL I really hope he's as good a coach as people say. If he's that good, maybe Mack and Schwartz will want to stay put.  Now, on to the coaching staff.
#GMSTRONG
“Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.”
Daniel Patrick Moynahan
"Alternative facts hurt us all. Think before you blindly believe."
Damanshot
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 13,821
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 13,821 |
WELCOME ABOARD HUE JACKSON...
Hope it works out !
FOOTBALL IS NOT BASEBALL
Home of the Free, Because of the Brave...
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 5,915
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 5,915 |
Well, Joe doesn't have a choice. WE do. but he doesn't. I've been on my phone app for the last hour, gees twitter is on fire over this move..You'd have thought we won the superbowl or something LOL I really hope he's as good a coach as people say. If he's that good, maybe Mack and Schwartz will want to stay put. Now, on to the coaching staff. You're wrong. He has a choice. He could retire..... If I were him I would think seriously about it. Playing for a continually losing franchise can't be much fun. The only other stud lineman on the team is leaving..... He's got enough money to last 50 lifetimes.Why NOT retire if the Browns won't let him go?
#BlackLivesMatter #StopAsianHate
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 30,825
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 30,825 |
I'm going to get excited AFTER the next season, IF we do well. Well doesn't necessarily mean 10-6 or better. In fact, I don't have a total win number.....but we'd better do better.
Talk to me about "coach" 11 1/2 months from now.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 13,821
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 13,821 |
I'm going to get excited AFTER the next season, IF we do well. Well doesn't necessarily mean 10-6 or better. In fact, I don't have a total win number.....but we'd better do better.
Talk to me about "coach" 11 1/2 months from now.
..and it doesn't matter what Haslam says to media and fans, we already know his words are meaningless. Hopefully Jackson realizes what he got himself into, with Haslam as his boss.
FOOTBALL IS NOT BASEBALL
Home of the Free, Because of the Brave...
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 5,915
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 5,915 |
oobernoober, those are good questions. I'm not sure anyone knows what Hue prefers. He did not chose his staff in Oakland.
My hope is they don't deviate to much from what is already on the field. Haslam made it known before Pettine was hired the type of team he wants. Here's hoping he cleans house and changes everything. I want a REAL 4-3 defense. I want us to ATTACK on D. Pressure pressure pressure! I want an offense that RUNS the football. Let our new coach run HIS schemes and bring in HIS people. It's HIS ass on the line after all.... I HOPE that our new HC brings in highly competent EXPERIENCED coordinators. We will see.
#BlackLivesMatter #StopAsianHate
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 2,856
Dawg Talker
|
|
Dawg Talker
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 2,856 |
oobernoober, those are good questions. I'm not sure anyone knows what Hue prefers. He did not chose his staff in Oakland.
My hope is they don't deviate to much from what is already on the field. Haslam made it known before Pettine was hired the type of team he wants. Here's hoping he cleans house and changes everything. I want a REAL 4-3 defense. I want us to ATTACK on D. Pressure pressure pressure! I want an offense that RUNS the football. Let our new coach run HIS schemes and bring in HIS people. It's HIS ass on the line after all.... I HOPE that our new HC brings in highly competent EXPERIENCED coordinators. We will see. no good coordinators will come here... 
#gmstrong
A smart person knows what to say.
A wise person knows whether or not to say it.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 5,915
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 5,915 |
I'm going to get excited AFTER the next season, IF we do well. Well doesn't necessarily mean 10-6 or better. In fact, I don't have a total win number.....but we'd better do better.
Talk to me about "coach" 11 1/2 months from now. That's about the size of it. When I see marked improvement on BOTH sides of the ball, THEN I might start believing in this hire. Until then he's just another inexperienced coordinator. He was a HC for ONE year and went 8-8. Why should I get excited about that when there were a number of more experienced candidates. Many with rings.... We don't even know who he's going to hire as OC and DC. Will he even hire an OC? Will he call the plays or will the new OC(if one is hired). What kind of defense will we run? Does he hire a quality DC? Or are we stuck with another Oneil?
#BlackLivesMatter #StopAsianHate
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 5,915
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 5,915 |
oobernoober, those are good questions. I'm not sure anyone knows what Hue prefers. He did not chose his staff in Oakland.
My hope is they don't deviate to much from what is already on the field. Haslam made it known before Pettine was hired the type of team he wants. Here's hoping he cleans house and changes everything. I want a REAL 4-3 defense. I want us to ATTACK on D. Pressure pressure pressure! I want an offense that RUNS the football. Let our new coach run HIS schemes and bring in HIS people. It's HIS ass on the line after all.... I HOPE that our new HC brings in highly competent EXPERIENCED coordinators. We will see. no good coordinators will come here... If our new head coach is worth his salt he will attract quality assistants. If he can't build a quality staff then he's the wrong hire.
#BlackLivesMatter #StopAsianHate
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 42,865
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 42,865 |
Well, Joe doesn't have a choice. WE do. but he doesn't. I've been on my phone app for the last hour, gees twitter is on fire over this move..You'd have thought we won the superbowl or something LOL I really hope he's as good a coach as people say. If he's that good, maybe Mack and Schwartz will want to stay put. Now, on to the coaching staff. You're wrong. He has a choice. He could retire..... If I were him I would think seriously about it. Playing for a continually losing franchise can't be much fun. The only other stud lineman on the team is leaving..... He's got enough money to last 50 lifetimes.Why NOT retire if the Browns won't let him go? Any player or coach can threaten to retire. Joe isn't a guy like that. he may be sick of the merry go round of coaching changes and he may threated to retire to get them to trade him, But I doubt it. But technically, you are correct, he could retire.
#GMSTRONG
“Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.”
Daniel Patrick Moynahan
"Alternative facts hurt us all. Think before you blindly believe."
Damanshot
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 5,915
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 5,915 |
Don't know how true this is, but on NFL Network it was said one of the conditions Hue had in signing here was a dump Johnny clause.... Hope that's true not just a rumor. 
#BlackLivesMatter #StopAsianHate
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 2,856
Dawg Talker
|
|
Dawg Talker
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 2,856 |
Don't know how true this is, but on NFL Network it was said one of the conditions Hue had in signing here was a dump Johnny clause.... Hope that's true not just a rumor. I heard the same thing. see ya JM No good quarterbacks are going to come here
#gmstrong
A smart person knows what to say.
A wise person knows whether or not to say it.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 10,870
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 10,870 |
 Hue Jackson is in the building - and chatting with Kevin Mack.
You know my love will Not Fade Away.........
#gmSTRONG
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 2,075
Dawg Talker
|
|
Dawg Talker
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 2,075 |
Welcome aboard Hue! May your tenure be long, successful and Super Bowl bound.
#gmstrong
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 2,856
Dawg Talker
|
|
Dawg Talker
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 2,856 |
Hue Jackson is in the building - and chatting with Kevin Mack. PHotoshopped... no good Kevin Macks will come here
#gmstrong
A smart person knows what to say.
A wise person knows whether or not to say it.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 5,915
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 5,915 |
All things considered I believe this is the best the Browns could have done.
Given that Sabin was not a candidate along with Sean Payton.
Looking at the candidates that were being discussed for all the openings Jackson to me was the best available.
He had experience as a HC which should help. He doesn't have to go through the learning curve from coordinator to HC which is not an easy transition.
I like that he is an offensive guy. Not that a defensive guy is not worthy I just like that he comes from the offensive side of the ball.
As the Bengals OC it helps that he comes with knowledge of the division. In addition I really liked what the Bengals were doing offensively under Jackson.
He has a good reputation from the players who have played for him. He seems to communicate well.
I find it interesting that the 49ers and Giants were after him and he selected the Browns. Since everybody in the media portrayed the Browns job as the worst position available and that the environment was toxic etc. The the new orc chart was off the wall and will never work etc. etc.
So now we have a HC. Now we need a GM who will work with Jackson and be a guy who can really draft talent. After that get a good DC who believes in rushing the passer and forcing the action on defense.
I like this move.
When has being a HC for ONE season become "experienced"? He was a HC for one single season. To me that is inexperienced. We already have our GM. We may hire a guy we CALL the GM, but Sashi Brown is in charge of the roster and that makes him the REAL Manager of this team.
#BlackLivesMatter #StopAsianHate
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 5,915
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 5,915 |
Don't know how true this is, but on NFL Network it was said one of the conditions Hue had in signing here was a dump Johnny clause.... Hope that's true not just a rumor. I heard the same thing. see ya JM No good quarterbacks are going to come here Hopefully we will draft a couple this year. Trade for one? Lots of options....
#BlackLivesMatter #StopAsianHate
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 28,171
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 28,171 |
Hue Jackson is in the building - and chatting with Kevin Mack. I MEANT ALEX!!!! ::smh::
Browns is the Browns
... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 18,990
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 18,990 |
Hue Jackson is in the building - and chatting with Kevin Mack. I MEANT ALEX!!!! ::smh:: Hue reads the board!!!
At DT, context and meaning are a scarecrow kicking at moving goalposts.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 9,806
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 9,806 |
I wonder if Sf would do a Kaepernick for Manziel trade - straight up.
Manziel is done here and Kaep is done there. Perhaps both would benefit rom a new start? Kaepernick has a huge contract. I would only want him if he restructured his contract to a much lower number. Even then I would still draft a QB high. I would guess that Chip Kelly wants a shot with Kaepernick if he gets the 49ers job. Kaepernick, who was benched by the 49ers this season, has had three surgeries in the past two months, and most think he's finished in San Francisco. I hadn't heard this. Anybody know what surgeries he's had?
Am I perfect? No
Am I trying to be a better person?
Also no
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 28,171
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 28,171 |
I wonder if Sf would do a Kaepernick for Manziel trade - straight up.
Manziel is done here and Kaep is done there. Perhaps both would benefit rom a new start? Kaepernick has a huge contract. I would only want him if he restructured his contract to a much lower number. Even then I would still draft a QB high. I would guess that Chip Kelly wants a shot with Kaepernick if he gets the 49ers job. Kaepernick, who was benched by the 49ers this season, has had three surgeries in the past two months, and most think he's finished in San Francisco. I hadn't heard this. Anybody know what surgeries he's had? After seeing some of his decision making, I'd suspect corrective surgery for Cranial Rectalysis.
Browns is the Browns
... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 11,066
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 11,066 |
Agreed! I am equally anxious to see who it isn't. Take out the trash. Wonder who he brings. Like the hire.
Welcome aboard, Coach.
"Every responsibility implies opportunity, and every opportunity implies responsibility." Otis Allen Glazebrook, 1880
|
|
|
DawgTalkers.net
Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum Browns hire Hue Jackson as head
coach
|
|
