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I think I understand Trump's appeal to many voters in the same light as DC sees it.

But I feel compelled to also say this:

There are still many of us Americans who still appreciate CONTENT, once the rhetoric's applause has died. To date, Donald Trump has produced a paucity of such content... and the clock is ticking for him to start. If he leads the Republican Party all the way to the nomination, the "magnifying glass" will only sharpen its focus, and the questions will only become more focused. God help him, should that scenario arise.

Despite his populist appeal, Trump has shown no hint of substance behind the hype. And that should frighten the crap out of the RNC, if they want to nominate a candidate who can be taken seriously in a national election.

To date, Donald Trump has made headlines for exactly the same reasons that Bernie Sanders has:

They've both tapped into an unfocused sense of dissatisfaction with the staus quo... by giving them a villain to blame for their anxiety. Bernie blames Wall ST. and Big Biz. Trump blames illegals, Syrian refugees, and 'The Other' for our woes.

Neither are truly electable- for exactly the same reasons. They only speak to 'early pollers'... those charged-up Americans who are already in each candidate's "Amen Corner."

Trump's message is about as far right as a candidate could get. Sanders' message is about as far left as you can get in this current cycle.
....and most Americans don't come close to either of these philosophies.

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I'm gonna hit you with a characterization of Donald Trump that resonates with me. I'm going to quote it without giving attribution. Why? -Because I want to know your unbiased opinion of it before I tell you where it came from. I promise to reveal the author of this quote before another page of this thread evolves. Here goes:

"...but I think it's very important to understand that you have The Amsterdam News, you have The Daily News. You have the New York Times, you have the New York Post. You have the 'New York City' of Donald Trump; you have the 'New York City' of Eric Gardner. The problem with Trump is: he's a multi-billionaire pseudo-populist with autocratic sensibilities and some fascist proclivities. That's what's dangerous about him."

[moderator/host]: "But as a politician, he's a natural... I mean-"

"Yes. He's for real... he's just not 'for right.' "

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Truth be told: I called this the day after Obama won his re-election campaign. I didn't know that Donald (freakkin') Trump would be tho poster child of my prediction, but I knew someone would step into this role. Why? Because that's what we do, as a teenaged society. We do massive mood swings because we aren't yet mature enough to do anything else. Let's face it- as a nation, we didn't leave childhood until we exited Reconstruction. We're still navigating the learning curve... and the pace of progress is painfully slow.

I knew it with the same conviction that compelled me to buck the assertion that Obama's election would lead to a "Post-racial America." On the contrary, I predicted that his election would lead to a "Hyper-Racial America"... because I wasn't fooled about who we truly are as a nation.

Now, we have Trump building 2,000 mile-long walls to keep Mexican rapists and drug dealers out. We have Trump advocating to ban ALL Syrian refugees indefinitely, until we can verify which one or two among 100 thousand can be found. We have Trump calling into question Raphael Cruz's legitimacy as a viable Presidential candidate...

...and rabid, mouth-breathing "low-info's" are cheering him on.

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To date, I'm not yet worried... but I am concerned. If the right wing of America's electorate is gullible enough to support this guy, with his "All fire/no substance" approach, then it means Bernie Sanders or Hillary Clinton will become POTUS 45...

...because as dumb as she's been in the past, America isn't intellectually flat-lined enough to entrust a thrice-failed real estate playa and Reality TV personality to the Nuclear Football.

If she allows something like this to happen, perhaps we truly ARE living in "The End Times." Republicans need to step (tf) up NOW. Derail this idiot before he ruins your brand for the next generation.

American citizens truly deserve better choices than these. On BOTH sides of the political 'talent' pool...



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I'll play, I'm in one of those moods this morning.....

It will certainly do that..sharpen its focus that is...but to this point all of the candidates are speaking in generalities..what I think Trump will do is surround himself with smart people and will make decisions from there.



No what should frighten the crap out of the RNC is...they got voted into congress and senate...and didnt listen to what the people wanted who sent them there..Ive saw people say if Jeb didnt have his last name he does he would be taken serious...really?? he lays this crap and wonders why people dont take him serious...he is the very thing the people are tired of...he is out of touch.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/jeb-bush-2016-election_5697990ae4b0778f46f835ee?



Yeah with 2 very different messages...I'll take Trumps over Bernies any day.



I think youre so wrong about that its not even funny...Trump has a serious chance to win...I wouldnt have said that when he first started his campaign...I actually thought he was Clinton plant...I no longer believe that..he is in it to win it....I hope Bernie is the nom..Because Trump will win in a landslide...



No I would say the other rep. candidates messages for years has been to close to the left...and the 1 thing I give Dem. credit for?? They have made Rep. play their game...oh we need the rep. nom. to be centrist...oh look lets hold the .republicans to much different standards then the Democrats...Trump is playing the Dem. political handbook and they hate him for it...the dems and reps hate him for it. I hope the GOPe wake up and realize their way stinks and people are sick of it.



Yeah it had nothing to do with how Obama has carried himself and who's sides he chose...sorry man I dont agree Obama is as much of the problem as anyone. He was supposed to be the great one the one to unite people and he has done nothing but divide.



Youre smarter then this...its a lot more then low info's cheering him on...I do agree he should leave the birther thing alone...but like I said I dont agree with Trump on everything....but to say its just low info mouth breathers supporting him is well...just as ignorant as the statement you just made.



Step up now?? Jesus man thy have already ruined the "brand" long before Trump come on the scene. I don't like Trump...have never liked Trump...but if he is there at the end I'll be voting for him.



This we agree on. The political system...well who runs the political system in this country sucks...and so do the ones who keep voting for the same pile of crap over and over. We need better choices, but who in the hell wants to get into politics this day and age...its pathetic.

I'll end it here...I think youre a smart person Clem...but you sound just like the left's talking points...just in a much more suave way. I just disagree with you that Trump has no chance...or that its just mouth breathers supporting him...guess I could say the same about people who vote Democrat and will cast their vote for Hillary or any Dem voter no matter what.

as i said before, his only hope is if Bernie wins.

it's radical vs radical at that point.

But trump vs clinton?

that will be a total of 16 years you guys haven't sniffed the WH.

Bernie would lead Trump and Clinton in a national race according to WSJ poll.

That right there says it all.

Any American who would vote for a liar and criminal like Hillary or a Socialist after all the decades of fighting Socialism in this Nation is neither Patriotic nor American.

Shame!

Swish, I understand the way I post comes across as a Republican...I am not...its just happens to be in this election and the choices I have...well..I'm leaning that way.

I absolutely couldnt stand Obama...had nothing to do with his skin either...it was him...his belief system..I listened to what he was saying in his debates, I read his books...the company he kept. I just didnt align with him.

I thought I liked Colin Powell for Pres till I saw what he had to say when Obama ran...and well I would never vote for that guy either.

I have to vote...thought about sitting out...but how could I complain if I dont vote? regardless of choices. Someone doesnt feel that way...fine with me...but for me personally its my duty to vote....Ive voted dem rep...independents...I have no party allegiance....so its not "my guys" it just happens to be who I'm voting for and have voted for since 08.

I'd make a sig bet with you about this election but I'm probably not going to be here long enough for you to pay up on the bet

I cant see how in the world Hillary wins...she is the epitome of everything people hate about politics...but I also thought Obama would lose his second term...until freaking Romney got the bid...here nor there I was wrong...might be about this to but I just dont see it...what a pile of crap to choose from though...on both sides.

Thanks for the response...other then you saying "you guys"....Maybe youre right...I just dont see it.

Rocket I dont care what any poll says...Bern has no chance in hell...if he was 30yrs younger...maybe he would have a shot before he died...but as of now, no way..and I dont care how many polls I read from now till the election comes.

That is an obvious jab at Donald Trump…on behalf of Sam the Eagle I don't appreciate you insulting him like that!
Sam deserves much more respect than that!

It is really sad.

I can't support Trump. He is a blowhard for sure. And I dislike how the democrats have greased the path for Hillary. If there was a better democratic alternative Hillary would be in the same boat as Jeb... There is an equal amount af Clinton fatigue as there is Bush fatigue. There is no way that she could win the nomination against other democrats.

Sanders is a independent, that states he is a social democrat, and for the purpose of the election is the best competition that could be arranged for Hillary. It is a farce.

Have the debate on now, seems like they are letting Hillary answer questions that Bernie gets skipped on and O'malley has hardly spoken since I turned it on.

they not letting o malley speak, they giving him the ben carson treatment.

Bernie just destroyed hilary on the wall street corruption. holy crap.

Boy they're actually going after each other pretty good tonight!

this "make the wealthy pay" isn't gonna work.

i get closing tax loop holes. but i think you guys said before we already pay enough in taxes, it's how it's being managed that is the problem.

Like we always say on this side of the aisle, government doesn't have a revenue problem, it has a spending problem.

Did you guys see her?
All dolled up on stage?
Looking like a diamond in the rough?
I thought I was finally over her but...
There she was, darling Sarah yelling...
"Great Gobbely Goop!" "Vote Fer TRUMP!!!"

I can only be grateful for having lived long enough to witness these Primaries!

She has disappointed me to no end.

Gorgeous Women often leave a trail of broken hearts...

Yours, mine and Ted Cruz.

The fact you had hope should be what's disappointing you. She was clearly a nut job from day one. I can't believe anyone had expectations of her to be anything else.

A little-known fact about Ms. Palin:
...she's a master of Jazz improvisation. Mad jammin' skeelz.


A sampling of her- 'artistry':

McCain

Ahhh, a Beautiful Woman of many talents.
Sarah...
Saaarrraaahhhhh....

hope you keep a towel handy-

I do but it quickly becomes tear soaked as she remains so distant.

"40" and "Sarah" = Girl on Girl.

You post like a nut. You don't own any guns do you?

I love that stuff. Henry Hey is so badass in catching the rhythms and emotion of the message.

Thanks for bring it back. I'd nearly forgotten about it.

Yeah.... his Bill O'Reilly is exceptional.

I can't post it here in any thread because of the profanity he unleashes during his tirade.

Hey's cover is off-the-charts spot on.

Lets see some of the Liberals he works his magic with.

Not sure any exist on YouTube. I can't really say if he's even done any with 'liberals.' Not sure if it's intentional or that he just hasn't gotten around to doing any more mashups.

Additionally, I could also say this- I'm not at all certain his motivations are political in nature. As a musician, I appreciated the skill with which he executed his improvs. He seems to have chosen his subjects based on how much inflection their voices carry. Truth be told, I'd love to hear him work with lots of others, no matter who he uses as his template. When it comes to party politics, we musos are a pretty apolitical bunch. (Stop right there! DO NOT mistake "Pop stars" for real musicians...)

Churchill would be cool.
Teddy R
Joe Biden would be tons of fun.

Billary would bore me... her delivery is way too flat.

I'll keep an eye and ear out for any new ones he may drop. Until then, check you inbox for the Bill O... it's hilarious!

Hmmmmmm.

Fantastic Vine.

https://vine.co/v/ieKI9rebnEB

Thanks Trump, Thanks Republicans, for for the gift of finally giving the country back to the American people.

Thanks for realizing that we need to finally kill off the republican party with this election.

https://www.yahoo.com/politics/sarah-palin-track-arrest-ptsd-obama-214359387.html

This had me so angry, but laughing at the same time. Sarah Palin, you got the audacity to blame your drunk, woman-beating low life you call a son domestic assault charges on Obama?

To say that his PTSD, which he went to Iraq in 2008, which was BEFORE Obama even took office, is somehow the president's fault? that some how, Obama is to blame for the reason your son doesn't feel respected, and thus was drove to beat up his girlfriend?

Trump might have had a slim shot of the presidency. he has none, now. The republican party; the party of christians, the party of family values, the family of good morals and taking accountability for their actions...

Now support the very person that goes against pretty much all of your values.

Your presidential nominee has been married 3 times. "til death do you part" means what to him? He proposes illegal and unconstitutional crap like banning all muslims. he's says derogatory things about latinos. he says sexist things constantly, even to a fellow presidential nominee. He's sexist, racist, and xenophobic.

Who is THEN endorsed by one of the worst public families in the media, the Palins. Srah, and her husband Todd, already with affair scandals and such, followed by a Daughter who got pregnant as a teenager out of wedlock, paid to preach to kids about abstinence, and AGAIN gets pregnant out of wedlock to a different guy.

And last but not least, a son who is being charged with assault for beating up his girlfriend.

Lets make this perfectly clear. if the Palins weren't a rich white family, you'd be labeling them as just another welfare family.

when you think of a typical welfare mom, single with kids, Palin's daughters picture is right next to that definition.

Her son's mugshot will be in the newspaper tomorrow. typical criminal face.

Party of family values?

**takes out binoculars** where? where? i don't see it.

i see two families that belong on reality TV on the MTV or VH1 channel. i can't believe how to the older generations talks trash about my generation and what we watch, and how social media is, and blah blah blah.....

yet you guys sit there and back a family that belongs on shows you talk trash about the most.

Sarah Palin will kill any chance Trump thought he had.

Hilary continues to give you guys ammo cans after ammo cans so you can gun her AND the democratic party down with.

but instead of taking the kill shot, you guys constantly elect over, and over, and over again to take the SUICIDE shot straight to the face.

instead of championing on your enemies mistakes, you guys instead find ways to TOP those mistakes, with even crazier nonsense!!

Bernie sanders gives you plenty to shotgun blast him with.

Hilary has given you guys ammo to blast her with since the start of her political career.

but THIS is what you guys chose to elect to do instead?

I wanna know, guys. give me an explanation.

whats going on with your party? you guys aren't sniffing the white house. you aren't going to win. what went wrong? when did you guys become so far to the right? what swung y'all to the extreme right?

The democrats, when it boils down to it suck.

but when the majority of the country rather smell like piss than crap, that should tell you something about the state of the GOP, not just politics in general.

it was hilarious at first.

now it's just sad.

From the article:

“My son, like so many others — they come back a bit different,” Palin said at a rally in Tulsa, Okla., Wednesday. “They come back hardened.”


Is Sarah Palin telling me that she didn't expect war to change her son? Warhawks are crazy.

Many of our Veterans have returned from war with PTSD and I feel for them. I cut them some slack when they are out of line because I know they are not always themselves and often say or do some crazy stuff.

I wish them all good luck in getting the help they need as they work their way through hard times.

To use their suffering in order to make a political point is not good.

In other News...

A major research institution has just announced the discovery of the densest element yet known to science. The new element has been named Pelosium. Pelosium has one neutron, 12 assistant neutrons, 75 deputy neutrons, and 224 assistant deputy neutrons, giving it an atomic mass of 311.

These particles are held together by dark forces called morons, which are surrounded by vast quantities of lepton-like particles called peons.

The symbol of Pelosium is PU.


Pelosium's mass actually increases over time, as morons randomly interact with various elements in the atmosphere and become assistant deputy neutrons within the Pelosium molecule, leading to the formation of isodopes.


This characteristic of moron-promotion leads some scientist to believe that Pelosium is formed whenever morons reach a certain quantity in concentration. This hypothetical quantity is referred to as Critical Morass.

When catalyzed with money, Pelosium activates CNNadnausium, an element that radiates orders of magnitude more energy, albeit as incoherent noise, since it has half as many peons but twice as many morons as Pelosium.

You can think you know how your kids will change when they go in the military or go away to college.. but it can still surprise you when you actually see it.

Good, he's facing charges.....if he was Bill Clinton, and he committed multiple acts of sexual assault, millions of lemmings would come his defense and do everything they could to demean the alleged victims and portray them as money grubbing trailer whores... including the woman who may very well be our next President... you know, the one who said when women cry rape, they should be believed... unless her husband is the accused.