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The Cleveland Browns' new brass still doesn't know where Johnny Manziel was prior to the end of the season.

Executive VP of football operations Sashi Brown told the media on Thursday the team fined the quarterback for missing a scheduled medical treatment on Jan. 3, the day of the Browns' season finale, but was unsure the reason for the absence.

Brown said the team still plans to sit down with Manziel before determining the signal-caller's future.

"We're not in a panic to make a decision one way or another on him," Brown said.

The news of the fine comes weeks after Manziel was reportedly seen in a Las Vegas casino prior to the Browns' final tilt.

" We set expectations for our team on and off field," Brown said. "Johnny owns a lot of this in terms of the future of his career."
NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport previously reported that new coach Hue Jackson is expected to part ways with the enigmatic quarterback. At his introductory press conference, Jackson echoed the team's stance that they want to meet with Manziel before making any decisions.

The Browns hold the No. 2 overall pick in the upcoming NFL draft, which Jackson indicated the team could use to attempt to finally find a franchise quarterback, which has eluded the organization for decades.
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It really was expected, Sashi is doing buisness.

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Makes sense

The fans were mistreated.

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This is old news. It's just a "new" report of something we already knew. Now we get to read 14 pages of "we gotta cut this punk."

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We gotta trade this punk naughtydevil


and punk someone in the trade.


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We gotta trade this punk naughtydevil


OK, next page please. Only 13 more to go...


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trade him to pukesburgh for a practice squad player and a bag of footballs....


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Good, if he doesnt care about his team mates or fans maybe he will care about his wallet

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Good, if he doesnt care about his team mates or fans maybe he will care about his wallet


drop in the bucket.. want to punish him? suspend him a game like they did to josh...


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How much was the fine?

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How much was the fine?


not sure but they usually aren't much.. atleast compared to a game check...


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Great idea to put him in limbo. Like this is the only story, JFF messes up his team again?

Trade him for something, a golf cart and some brisket. Is Dally stinterested in him? At all? Package him with Bowe.


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How much was the fine?


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People still stick up and support their Johnny Manziel. I'm frankly tired of the meaningless debates of trading him, cutting him, keeping him, will he grow up, does he need to grow up and so forth.

Regardless what side you're on with JF, he's gotta grow up. If you can't at least admit that, I'd say tunnel vision........

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It would not be a shock to me if Manziel remained on the roster until the draft. The Browns will be looking for the best deal they can get for him.

I guess there is a possibility that a team could make a deal with the Browns before the draft..




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Originally Posted By: pblack18707
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Good, if he doesnt care about his team mates or fans maybe he will care about his wallet


drop in the bucket.. want to punish him? suspend him a game like they did to josh...


Can't suspend someone who won't be on the roster next year. tongue


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Good, if he doesnt care about his team mates or fans maybe he will care about his wallet


drop in the bucket.. want to punish him? suspend him a game like they did to josh...


Can't suspend someone who won't be on the roster next year. tongue


yea. but if pettine wasn't such a weak coach and did that year 1 who knows how it would have turned out. nothing like a good hit to the wallet combined with some public humiliation...

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Originally Posted By: Dawg_LB
People still stick up and support their Johnny Manziel. I'm frankly tired of the meaningless debates of trading him, cutting him, keeping him, will he grow up, does he need to grow up and so forth.

Regardless what side you're on with JF, he's gotta grow up. If you can't at least admit that, I'd say tunnel vision........


The vast majority posting here do not support Manziel and the numbers get less and less. So don't know what posts you are reading...lol laugh

2. Just who has stated that he does not have to mature? I don't think anyone has ever stated that he is a stable mature adult and the rest is nonsense.

My personal view is - IF he is not a pure ALCOHOLIC...most of this is BS. On his outside deeds. The problem I see as you stated is the Maturity and the commitment to THIS TEAM 100% ALL THE TIME not when he chooses to do so!

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commitment to THIS TEAM 100% ALL THE TIME not when he chooses to do so!


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All the people who compare his off field life to like Gronks from NE. They use that as leverage to say "hey if JF wants to party it up before game days and miss meetings and just overall make headlines for being what he's has been, then ok np. Gronk does it" and etc. I could go on.

His fan base does seem to decline, but there's people out there still with the utmost faith in him being a solid starting qb/teammate.

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People still stick up and support their Johnny Manziel. I'm frankly tired of the meaningless debates of trading him, cutting him, keeping him, will he grow up, does he need to grow up and so forth.

Regardless what side you're on with JF, he's gotta grow up. If you can't at least admit that, I'd say tunnel vision........


The vast majority posting here do not support Manziel and the numbers get less and less. So don't know what posts you are reading...lol laugh

2. Just who has stated that he does not have to mature? I don't think anyone has ever stated that he is a stable mature adult and the rest is nonsense.

My personal view is - IF he is not a pure ALCOHOLIC...most of this is BS. On his outside deeds. The problem I see as you stated is the Maturity and the commitment to THIS TEAM 100% ALL THE TIME not when he chooses to do so!

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I don't think anyone has explicitly stated he didn't need to mature, but there are a few who have implied it:
such those who said he was put in a position to lie, those who said that the partying doesn't matter so long as he comes to play on Sunday (due to a belief that his lifestyle is irrelevant to his career), and I'd even lump the people who referred to Pet as acting like his Daddy without providing any ideas as to how Johnny should have been dealt with.

It wasn't a lot of people, but there were/are some.


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Then again, look how many people are ripping him for old news presented in a brand, new shiny article?

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and miss meetings

See you snuck that in there. Not a soul says that its ok for him to have a life style that makes it ok to MISS MEETINGS...NOBODY.

You gave some correct statement then you throw in a SKUNK of a statement to therefore make all who want to see it through possibly in case he becomes good (matures) look like total pieces of crap. tsktsk not playing fair. no no no...


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It wasn't a lot of people, but there were/are some.


Then again, look how many people are ripping him for old news presented in a brand, new shiny article?


I suppose so. I haven't been around much, but this is the first I've heard of Johnny being dealt any disciplinary action for missing that last appointment.

I do find it odd that they fined him, but supposedly still don't know where he was... I guess they don't bother fining players in person? What do they do, certified mail or Fed Ex?? lol


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It wasn't a lot of people, but there were/are some.


Then again, look how many people are ripping him for old news presented in a brand, new shiny article?


I suppose so. I haven't been around much, but this is the first I've heard of Johnny being dealt any disciplinary action for missing that last appointment.

I do find it odd that they fined him, but supposedly still don't know where he was... I guess they don't bother fining players in person? What do they do, certified mail or Fed Ex?? lol


They probably just take it out of his check.

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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
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It wasn't a lot of people, but there were/are some.


Then again, look how many people are ripping him for old news presented in a brand, new shiny article?


To be fair, the fact that he was fined is not old news.

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To be fair, it was not a new violation.

Darn...........I promised myself I would not get dragged back into one of the JM threads. I have no will power. No discipline. Trade me.........

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I do find it odd that they fined him, but supposedly still don't know where he was.

One thing I will find interesting is our actions (Hue Jackson in particular) if it finally comes out that he was in Las Vegas 100% sure. Right now we got some bogus claim with a guy in a bad wig and I think some Poncho and glasses???

But if true. Hue is on record saying. If he missed the scheduled session for concussion because he was in Las Vegas - THEN HE WILL NOT BE PART OF THIS TEAM. pretty point blank and if that is his decision I think he is right in doing so. Will they pursue it to come down to a 100% - possibly why we fined him hoping there is conclusion right there.

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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
Darn...........I promised myself I would not get dragged back into one of the JM threads. I have no will power. No discipline. Trade me.........


Same. I will not comment on Manziel again until something significant happens.

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Trade me.........


I'm sure we can find one or two others here that we could package you with. Not to anybody in our division though... rofl


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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
To be fair, it was not a new violation.

Darn...........I promised myself I would not get dragged back into one of the JM threads. I have no will power. No discipline. Trade me.........


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Originally Posted By: eotab
I do find it odd that they fined him, but supposedly still don't know where he was.

One thing I will find interesting is our actions (Hue Jackson in particular) if it finally comes out that he was in Las Vegas 100% sure. Right now we got some bogus claim with a guy in a bad wig and I think some Poncho and glasses???

But if true. Hue is on record saying. If he missed the scheduled session for concussion because he was in Las Vegas - THEN HE WILL NOT BE PART OF THIS TEAM. pretty point blank and if that is his decision I think he is right in doing so. Will they pursue it to come down to a 100% - possibly why we fined him hoping there is conclusion right there.

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Our Security Chief John Frain is former FBI. Johnny has a cell phone and there are cameras everywhere in Vegas. If the Browns want to know where he was, then they know where he was. Do they want the fans to know where he was though?

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what lends it credibility is that he didn't show up for work...


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He said he was home. There has yet to be one shred of evidence showing that he wasnt. It is just the media would rather buy into costume clown johnny did it again that to report he was home. Even when he was home they were checking the date to the news paper to see if he was really gone or not.

I think the media and this fan base wont be happy until he is out of the NFL or hung from a tree.

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Originally Posted By: Dawg_LB
All the people who compare his off field life to like Gronks from NE. They use that as leverage to say "hey if JF wants to party it up before game days and miss meetings and just overall make headlines for being what he's has been, then ok np. Gronk does it" and etc. I could go on.

His fan base does seem to decline, but there's people out there still with the utmost faith in him being a solid starting qb/teammate.



Gronk shows up to play every sunday. he doesn't get into trouble, he isn't a headcase for his team.

oh...and he's actually GOOD.

you're right bro, people can't even being to try and compare manziel to Gronk.


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He said he was home. There has yet to be one shred of evidence showing that he wasnt. It is just the media would rather buy into costume clown johnny did it again that to report he was home. Even when he was home they were checking the date to the news paper to see if he was really gone or not.

I think the media and this fan base wont be happy until he is out of the NFL or hung from a tree.


Johnny has said a lot of things.

Most of them not true.

Those newspapers they checked, all 5 had the same date.

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Well, it could also be that regardless of where he was that weekend, they do know 100% that he missed his appointment, so might as well hand out the minimum discipline regardless of what his reasons were.


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He said he was home. There has yet to be one shred of evidence showing that he wasnt. It is just the media would rather buy into costume clown johnny did it again that to report he was home. Even when he was home they were checking the date to the news paper to see if he was really gone or not.

I think the media and this fan base wont be happy until he is out of the NFL or hung from a tree.


Johnny has said a lot of things.

Most of them not true.

Those newspapers they checked, all 5 had the same date.



What's all this about newspapers and dates? has the story evolved from being in Cleveland to partying in Vegas to being taken hostage in Columbia? saywhat


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Originally Posted By: Mourgrym
He said he was home. There has yet to be one shred of evidence showing that he wasnt. It is just the media would rather buy into costume clown johnny did it again that to report he was home. Even when he was home they were checking the date to the news paper to see if he was really gone or not.

I think the media and this fan base wont be happy until he is out of the NFL or hung from a tree.


Johnny has said a lot of things.

Most of them not true.

Those newspapers they checked, all 5 had the same date.



What's all this about newspapers and dates? has the story evolved from being in Cleveland to partying in Vegas to being taken hostage in Columbia? saywhat


After Johnny went AWOL reporters went to his house in Avon to see if he was there. There were 5 newspapers sitting on the porch to give the appearance that he wasn't there. All 5 newspapers were the same edition.

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