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Well...... I won't be visiting or commenting on this thread again until LeBron is gone. I'm very close to being done with Cleveland sports.... I'd bet you come back to this thread and team WAY BEFORE Lebron is gone.
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Jason Lloyd ‏@JasonLloydABJ 1m1 minute ago Per source: This was GM David Griffin's call. He didn't consult any players. He convinced ownership #Cavs were underachieving. Cleveland Cavaliers ‏@cavs 1m1 minute ago Tune to http://cavs.com/live at approx. 545PM ET to hear from GM David Griffin, LIVE from @ClevelandClinic Courts
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I think the shock of getting beaten so badly by the Warriors may have had something to do with this?
If so, I really don't know if getting rid of Blatt will make that much of a difference. The Cavs rock, but the Warriors are the better team.
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If so, I really don't know if getting rid of Blatt will make that much of a difference. The Cavs rock, but the Warriors are better. Yeah, I don't know either. I really, really doubt it was Blatt's idea to let Lebron and Kyrie pound nails on offensive sets. So now do they get to do it with Lue's blessing? Is that going to make them better?
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If so, I really don't know if getting rid of Blatt will make that much of a difference. The Cavs rock, but the Warriors are better. Yeah, I don't know either. I really, really doubt it was Blatt's idea to let Lebron and Kyrie pound nails on offensive sets. So now do they get to do it with Lue's blessing? Is that going to make them better? Perhaps Blatt was just the fall guy...
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Jason Lloyd ‏@JasonLloydABJ 1m1 minute ago Per source: This was GM David Griffin's call. He didn't consult any players. He convinced ownership #Cavs were underachieving. Cleveland Cavaliers ‏@cavs 1m1 minute ago Tune to http://cavs.com/live at approx. 545PM ET to hear from GM David Griffin, LIVE from @ClevelandClinic Courts Anyone who believes they didn't consult LeBron before this is living in a dreamworld.
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Perhaps Blatt was just the fall guy... That much is obvious. 
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David Blatt told friends in Israel last week, "It's either me or Kevin Love." Just surprised LeBron didn't decide sooner...
So, Blatt was keeping Love out of all the team photos? Now it all makes sense.
Browns is the Browns
... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.
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If so, I really don't know if getting rid of Blatt will make that much of a difference. The Cavs rock, but the Warriors are better. Yeah, I don't know either. I really, really doubt it was Blatt's idea to let Lebron and Kyrie pound nails on offensive sets. So now do they get to do it with Lue's blessing? Is that going to make them better? LeBron went back to Cleveland to do whatever he wanted. Lue is just part of that and Blatt got caught in the crossfire.
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Jason Lloyd ‏@JasonLloydABJ 1m1 minute ago Per source: This was GM David Griffin's call. He didn't consult any players. He convinced ownership #Cavs were underachieving. Cleveland Cavaliers ‏@cavs 1m1 minute ago Tune to http://cavs.com/live at approx. 545PM ET to hear from GM David Griffin, LIVE from @ClevelandClinic Courts Anyone who believes they didn't consult LeBron before this is living in a dreamworld. They didn't need to consult LeBron ... he had already consulted them. 
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Sounds about right.
Makes me wonder if the GS game was intentional by the players.
I give this team little to no chance at all going forward.
Browns is the Browns
... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.
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Chris Fedor ‏@ChrisFedor 3m3 minutes ago
It's up to Tyronn Lue to get the most out of Kevin Love now. That, among other things, was an issue for David Blatt.
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Another caveat of this ... Lue gets to coach the East in the All Star Game now.
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Another caveat of this ... Lue gets to coach the East in the All Star Game now. At this point in the season, neither All-Star game coach has coached one game.
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The Cavaliers have an extremely talented team, and I do think that Lebron tried to support Blatt. (publicly, anyway)
I do think that a team can be very talented, and underachieve. I definitely think that happened here. Also, if there is a major disconnect between players and coach, someone in the building, like the GM who hired that head coach, would be in position to see it. I don't think that Griffin, who took a lot of ... questioning .... when he hired Blatt to start with, would fire him unless he felt that it was absolutely necessary.
Believe me, I was as shocked as could be when I heard this, but after reading some of the comments by writers, I can see how some of the issues they raise could be legitimate.
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David Aldridge ‏@daldridgetnt 1m1 minute ago
This was a multi-wk evaluation from GM David Griffin that the Cavs were regressing in key areas & players were detaching from each other.
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Cleveland Sports: we're only boring on game day.
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I think this move had to be made. None of the players seemed to relate to Blatt. When I saw them live, Lebron never even talked to him. What I thought was strange was that during timeouts, Blatt would stand on the court while Lue or another assistant had the players around them. When you look at teams like GS or SA, Kerr, Walton and Pop are communicating with all of their players and have their attention during critical timeouts. There was no similar connect between our players and Blatt. Even Spoelstra had Lebron's attention some of the time.
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Another caveat of this ... Lue gets to coach the East in the All Star Game now. At this point in the season, neither All-Star game coach has coached one game. Awesome and hilarious! As for the firing, meh. You're up Lue. I do worry about Kevin and his future role on the team if there is beef between him and the team or maybe the team had beef with Blatt and how Kevin was being used. I would be a little shocked the beef was with Kevin. He wouldn't have signed an extension in the offseason then. I wonder if last night's win against the Clippers was the team playing "Lue ball" after they played the Warriors under "Blatt ball". That was the proof Griffin needed that a change was needed. Cleveland may never win a title in my lifetime, but they're rarely boring. If you think about it, that's what sports are supposed to be, entertainment. We get a lot of that.
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Even Spoelstra had Lebron's attention some of the time. The Heat had the infrastructure to keep LeBron in check. They had him playing power forward with no iso ball. It's one of the reasons why he left. He wanted to do his own thing. Blatt got in the way of that. Watching Lue go up against Kerr or Pop in the finals is going to be ugly.
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.@JasonLloydABJ on @BullandFox: "It was pretty evident what players wanted & it wasn't David Blatt"...Win vs Nets, players mood final straw
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.@JasonLloydABJ on @BullandFox: Another downfall for Blatt, "struggled with rotation and guys really had a problem with it" #Cavs
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LA sports talk radio is already starting the "gotta get that guy" talk for the Lakers.
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.@JasonLloydABJ on @BullandFox: Another downfall for Blatt, "struggled with rotation and guys really had a problem with it" #Cavs I said this all season
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Man..... I really don't know what to say about this. I thought blatt was a good coach. I know he struggled with rotations and such, but man.....
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Keith Britton ‏@KeithBritton86 4m4 minutes ago
.@JasonLloydABJ on @BullandFox: Another downfall for Blatt, "struggled with rotation and guys really had a problem with it" #Cavs I said this all season Yeah, at first I gave him a break because he was breaking Irving in and had a bunch of new faces - but throughout the season it still seemed he was still trying to figure out minutes and etc.
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.@JasonLloydABJ on @BullandFox: Another downfall for Blatt, "struggled with rotation and guys really had a problem with it" #Cavs I said this all season Yeah, at first I gave him a break because he was breaking Irving in and had a bunch of new faces - but throughout the season it still seemed he was still trying to figure out minutes and etc. The Cavs have too many guys. They have four bigs that should play (Love, Thompson, Mozgov, and Varejao), a mishmash of wings (James, Jefferson, Smith, and Shumpert), and three point guards (Irving, Williams, and Dellavedova). They should be trying to make a three for one trade or moving guys into cap space (hello Portland).
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.@JasonLloydABJ on @BullandFox: Another downfall for Blatt, "struggled with rotation and guys really had a problem with it" #Cavs I said this all season You did.
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and according to Woj, he's basically saying what we all knew, that lebron orchestrated this:
Since last season, LeBron James and his agent Rich Paul have been strong advocates of Lue becoming head coach, league sources tell Yahoo.
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Seems like this was a bad fit, from the minute Lebron decided to come back.
Blatt was brought in to teach a young team, and then was handed a team with a lot of strong personalities. Thinking back, the idea that Blatt would have trouble with this veteran team was the story from the word go, and it seems to have played out that way.
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How surprised were Cavs players today? When team meeting was called, some players speculated Kevin Love had been traded
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Seems like this was a bad fit, from the minute Lebron decided to come back.
Blatt was brought in to teach a young team, and then was handed a team with a lot of strong personalities. Thinking back, the idea that Blatt would have trouble with this veteran team was the story from the word go, and it seems to have played out that way. yep, thats why I said earlier this year that blatt was in over his head. He was supposed to grow with a young team, you put all these superstars and egos on the same team, combined with the immediate expectations, he didn't have a prayer. Now lebron has the guy he wants, we don't win it this year, ship lebron and his diminishing skills and ego on the next thing smoking. The only saving grace with this is Lue was primed to be a HC in the league, he was the hot prospect at the time. So lets see what happens.
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Thats just crazy, Kevin Love has proven to be a guy who can carry the offense when given the chance, Hes more apt to be able to do it more consistently than lebron at this point but lebron refuses to defer. Last two games they made the effort to run the offense through love and he put up monster numbers.. The problem has never nor will ever be Kevin Love. Playing with ball hogs who love iso and a coach that had no clue how to use him is the problem, not kevin love...he'll his last year in MN averaged 26points and 13 boards for the season, neither kyrie or lebron can do that right now so why make a guy that has an inside/outside game like that the 3rd option, or actually seems like the 4th option. I don't think Love and JR should be on the floor at the same time. Love should split time with some of the second unit when Kyrie and lebron go to the bench and he can get aggressive and carry the load.
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Thats just crazy, Kevin Love has proven to be a guy who can carry the offense when given the chance, Hes more apt to be able to do it more consistently than lebron at this point but lebron refuses to defer. Last two games they made the effort to run the offense through love and he put up monster numbers.. The problem has never nor will ever be Kevin Love. Playing with ball hogs who love iso and a coach that had no clue how to use him is the problem, not kevin love...he'll his last year in MN averaged 26points and 13 boards for the season, neither kyrie or lebron can do that right now so why make a guy that has an inside/outside game like that the 3rd option, or actually seems like the 4th option. I don't think Love and JR should be on the floor at the same time. Love should split time with some of the second unit when Kyrie and lebron go to the bench and he can get aggressive and carry the load. I think that the reports are that Blatt and Love were oil and water, and one had to go. Listening to the presser, I believe this even more.
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J/c:
Is anyone watching the D. Griffin press conference? Allegedly, he is going off on the ball club.
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J/c:
Is anyone watching the D. Griffin press conference? Allegedly, he is going off on the ball club. He's not sugar coating it, that's for sure.
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Is anyone watching the D. Griffin press conference? Allegedly, he is going off on the ball club. Full blow torch. Kind of refreshing to hear. This isn't all on Blatt, but the coach is usually the expendable weight when you have the payroll the Cavs have, and you don't feel that great about your team. 30-11 is really good, but obviously they don't like the way this thing is going. This move won't morph Kyrie Irving into Gary Payton, or get Lebron to stop killing the offense, but maybe it'll be a wakeup call.
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Couple of things from the presser:
Tom Withers ‏@twithersAP 6m6 minutes ago
Griffin says players were surprised, but they believe right decision was made to make team better. #Cavs
T.J. Zuppe ‏@TJZuppe 7m7 minutes ago
Griffin on players' reaction: "They were surprised. I think they appreciate I'm making a decision based on what's best for us as a group."
Jeff Schudel ‏@jsproinsider 3m3 minutes ago
Griffin: "LeBron doesn't run this organization."..."I know when something doesn't look right."
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Tom Withers ‏@twithersAP 3m3 minutes ago
Griffin says Lue has "the voice and attitude" to make #Cavs better.
Sam Amico ‏@AmicoHoops 3m3 minutes ago
Cavs GM Griffin conceded some players may not like his decision to fire Blatt. "They don't have to like it; they have to respect it."
Tom Withers ‏@twithersAP 2m2 minutes ago
Griffin: "Ty Lue is a better basketball coach for this team today." #Cavs
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