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Well, that's the rhetoric I constantly hear.

I know mitt Romney was a good dude. But for some reason, him being Mormon really got under people's skin.

He was also a progressive trying to mask himself as a conservative. I voted for him because he was good in business. His theology didn't matter to me. May not agree with his interpretation of the New Testament, but I believe he was a genuine disciple of what he believed. So I trusted his character and business sense.

I'm not sure DC...but I hope he doesnt go to the debate and does the thing for wounded Vets...I hate Fox news and Meagan Kelly.

I liked Cruz at first...I think he would be better suited for the supreme court then President...but damn the further along this gets Idk why I just dont care for Cruz a whole lot.

Now if its between Cruz and or Trump thats who I'll vote for.

I wish there was a viable 3rd candidate to vote for that had a chance to be elected..but for now its Trump. There is no way I could vote for the Dem ticket this election...and to be quite frank I'm sick of the republican party and I'm sick of who they try to force feed me to vote for.

This is hilarious. And for anyone that supports the lying hillary..........well, they ought to have the sand shaken out of their head.

Well trump lied atleast twice when he vowed "til death do us part"

[quote]and to be quite frank I'm sick of the republican party and I'm sick of who they try to force feed me to vote for./quote]

Sadly, this is why Trump is doing as well as he is. If they would've done what they said they'd do when we voted for them they wouldn't be in this mess.

I wonder if he told the 'minister' to leave that part out.

Swish I'm going to say this the nicest way I know how...and isnt meant as a knock man...But you need to surround yourself with different people man.

Sometimes I read your stuff and I wonder who in the heck does this guy surround himself with...I dont know how you perceive me but I feel like I could hang out with you and would be cool as hell...and I also wonder if your in person persona differs greatly from the online one.

I live in an all white community now...soon it will be nobody We got a place out in the middle of no where and I like that.. before this was pretty diversified...and there was no racial stuff.

Man I'm going to say this and will probably fly over like a lead balloon but some of the most racist people Ive lived around was black folks man...everything revolved around race and the crap got old...I constantly listened to it and when I would be like Jesus man I'm white I'm listening to you...and they would say naw bruh you aint white your black.

I was accepted but it always bothered me..the racial crap...that is.

I hope your understand my point of view...and it wasnt a dig at all...but damn man you need to get out of the backyard and experience some different kind of living and people...Hope you dont take this post the wrong way...I'm having a hard time putting the thoughts in words and may not have conveyed my point like I wanted to.

You might have a point. It would be a better point if you held hillary to the same requirements. She's done nothing but lie since back to her cattle scam. 1980 or so?

If breaking wedding vows (hey, I'm divorced and remarried) is such an issue for you, shouldn't flat out lying be an issue for you also?

Yeah. If you were level headed, it would be.

I already know she's lies.

We ha already been over this. All politicians lie.

Pointless.

I dont really give a care how many times someones been married..But Hillary is the worst kind of people man...I voted for her husband but I'll be damned if I vote for her.

And if half the stuff Ive read about her hiding Billy boys rape stuff is true...idk how in the hell she can champion womens rights...she is a foul person.

She got fired from the Nixon investigation by a democrat….

Back to Trump and the debate ..... I think that he's (thankfully) making a huge mistake.

He has dominated the debates thus far by force of his personality. No one else really had a chance to shine, because he hogged all of the limelight.

Now someone else is going to have that opportunity, and just as we're heading up to the election kickoff.

The only thing that can happen to Trump is that he is torn down without being there to defend himself ....and every other candidate now gets just that much more face time. Big mistake on Trump's part, IMHO.

I am almost curious as to how Trump would do as President ..... because he would not be able to dictate, he would have to negotiate. That's not his normal MO. He has "his" company, and he hires and fires people at will. Can't do that in DC. I am almost interested in seeing this massive coming train wreck ...... except that he would also hurt the country I love.

No ones shined because they suck...and are told what to say by the ones who have paid them off...scared to death to say something and derail there bid.



I dont think so but if he doesnt show up we shall see...



He cant do any worse then whats been in office...I actually think he will project power...we will see who is wrong.

No politician has lied to the extent hillary has.

You're probably right, but the best liars are the ones we never hear about.

She's running a smear campaign against Bernie right now. She's pretty low as a human being.

She smeared her husbands accusers all while knowing he was guilty...

I agree. People think Obama created Donald Trumps popularity.. fact is a bunch of wussie republicans created Donald Trumps popularity.

Lately the republican leadership has been Courtney Brown-esque... talk like Tarzan, vote like Jane.

jc....for anyone who wants to kill time reading.

http://dcwhispers.com/d-c-whispers-confirmed-fox-news-attempted-trump-kill-shot-exposed/

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/...-borders-group/

And 1 more...God I'm bored today

http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/...-to-the-debate/

J/C
just a general reply to no one in particular.

You will find what you are looking for in a person. If you look for all the bad, thats how you will perceive the person.
If you look for the good, you will see the good.
If you look for racism, thats what you will see.
Once I learned to do this (everyday its work and somedays I fail) my life has become much happier.

I agree with you Arps.. there are very few people on this planet who are even close to "absolute" bad people or "absolute" good people. There is good and bad in all of us and generally you see what you want to see (or perhaps more accurately, what you EXPECT to see). Unless, as you say, you make it a point to LOOK for the other.

Betting the so called polls are not accurate. Monday should bring a "huge" surprise.

Trump will most likely hurt himself by not attending tonight's debate. His effort to trump FOX will fail. Tuesday, the dialgue should be different.

I agree with you, I think Trump will take a hit for this.. then again, every time in this campaign that I thought Trump went too far or stepped out of bounds, his numbers actually went up... so what do I know?

I don't think Trump takes a hit for this at all. Infact, it will just make his star even brighter.

Know what Trump going to be doing while this debate is going on? He is going to be raising money for wounded veterans.

This is a genius move by Trump, not only is he showing the American people that he actually cares far more for the common everyday person and our soldiers then these scubbag politician pieces of garbage everyone seems so apt to vote for, like Cruz, but Trump is actually willing to get his hands dirty and actually be on the ground floor of doing things that actually matter.

This right here is going to actually WIN Trump even more support.

From the 48 Laws of Power:

LAW 9) Win through your actions, never through argument

LAW 16) Use absence to increase respect and honor (p115-122)

LAW 43) Work on the hearts and minds of others! (p367-375)

Many don't even realize, Trump is playing this down to a T, he has flat out outsmarted every single person in the debate tonight and they are too stupid to realize it...i bet more people are at Trump's fundraiser then will be present at that debate, and Trump will garner far more votes and support because of it!

Folks trying to say Trump is running away from Kelly? please

LAW 22) Use the surrender tactic --- transform weakness into power! (p163-170)

the media, just like a true mark, they are already falling in lockstep with what Trump wants and most don't even realize it! its comical watching trump manipulate the strings to his own benefit...remember what happend with Kelly last time? Trump masterfuly turned that around and got even more support then he had before it all started.

Trump is playing this perfectly. Anyone who wants to ever run for a high level office, etc would be smart to take notes because so far Trump is using thr 48 laws to a T and is hitting it out of the park at every turn, and this debate thing will be no different.

it might be smart as far this debate goes.

but overall, the rest of america is looking at this situation like a reality tv show.

because that's exactly what this is. i never seen so much senseless drama in a political campaign.

ever.

What is he going to do if he wins and goes back and reviews all of the negative things some foreign governments have said about him? Is he going to stomp his feet and say they weren't fair to him and refuse to meet with them?

On one hand I agree that for most of this campaign he has played the media and his supporters like a fiddle.. and that might be great to help him win the election... I'm just not sure how that translates into being an effective President.

i agree, he can play the population and maybe win, but that doesn't mean anything when it comes to world leaders.

i'm seeing people on social media go "see? trump is a great leader because putin likes him"

or maybe putin wants trump to be president so he can have his way with the guy. and what about the rest of the world leaders?

it's exactly what you said, he can't stomp his feet and close his ears screaming "lalalalala" at a g20 summit, or un meeting. or when you gotta sit down with iran and make things happen.

England literally just debated in parliament about banning the guy. the petition got 3-4x as many signatures than needed, and it was mind boggling that they actually debated whether or not to ban him from entering the country.

say what you want about the british people, but that says way more about the global opinions of Trump. my wife said there were talks that Germany was considering it as well.

So lets say the conservatives are right. obama divided the country.

so now you guys(read: the republicans that elect/vote for him) wanna one up obama and divide the world?

jeez....

Which I view as about as childish and stupid as a lot of the stuff our politicians do. I mean really, that ranks up there with Seahawks fans trying to ban Cam Newton from the stadium next year.

On one hand I think Trump the President would be vastly different than Trump the candidate.. from every single person I've heard who had business dealings with him, he's tough but fair and is generally personable to be around... but it's kind of scary when you have to base your vote on the kind of person you THINK he's going to be....

My other thought, I'm not sure Trump wants to BE the President as much as he just wants to prove he can WIN the election. That is kind of the history of his business dealings, start a project, create a controversy, prove he can win the controversy, then move on to the next project/controversy... making money at each step.

The huge surprise might be for you...Reagan skipped the debate before the Iowa??? caucus and well had that turn out for him?

I'm going from memory but he did indeed skip a debate and it ended up not hurting him just like this one isnt going to do jack to Trump.

it's childish for sure.

but it's still eye opening. it's really hard to be a *effective* world leader when the world hates you.

i'm trying to look at it more from a statement kinda thing instead of a "lets really ban the guy" perspective.

as far as the rest of what you posted....man i dunno. you're right, it is scary.

if trump wins the election, it says a lot more about us as americans than it does about trump.

when the republicans won the house and senate, my first post on this board was "ok, the american people got what they wanted, so instead of bashing the government, lets wait and see how these guys do with control over congress".

still waiting, btw.

Ive heard the same thing...I dont know him personally but I know a person who does and said the same thing you did...we was in the same kind of work and wouldve liked to had a chance to meet him even if I dont like the guy I respect what he does as a business man.



Take this with a giant grain of salt...this was my thought at first....but the same friend/acquaintance told me the guy is in it to win because its one of the few challenges left to do and he genuinely thinks he can do much better then whats in there now.

I was hesitant to even mention my friend...people believe what they want..dont really care...but between what I was told and what I see the guy say...I'll be rolling with Trump if he gets the nod.

Man thats 1 reason people are pissed off with Republicans...made big promises and basically gave the finger to the people who voted them in.

So are a bunch of other people..

yea, look, i understand you guys hate the ACA.

but after the....i dunno..25th time trying to repeal it, couldn't you guys have focused on other problems?

also, i thought you guys promised to balance the budget and cut spending?

the new budget that you guys brought to the presidents desk increased the spending.

Swish I love ya man...but could you please stop with the 'you guys thing' I know I post very right leaning but man I swear to you I have no party allegiance...just busting your balls a bit kid.

I hear what your saying....and is part of my problem with the Republican party in general.

As this day plays out, it looks as if this may be beneficial to Trump. Huckabee and Santorum attending his event and most other candidates making the news about Trump in their efforts to offer millions to debate him.

The other candidates offering huge dollars simply to debate Trump, after six previous debates, is reflective of the financial waste that occurs in these campaigns.

All while we, as Americans, stand by and watch.

But offering millions to debate Trump, simply makes Trump look even more significant and the others as if they are pandering to the top dawg.

Am I misinformed or just naive? I thought part of the reason for having PARTY primaries was so the party could make sure that the race was somewhat fair... if two candidates can just, on their own, decide to hold a debate with each other, excluding every other candidate that may want to participate... how is that right?