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Gilbert seems like a total wastoid, Haden has really cratered on and off the field and Gordon is poised to return again and break our hearts again. No doubt. Johnny improved a ton this year, and put in a tremendous amount of work. Despite his troubles, he worked harder and engaged more than any of the others. I really want to root for the guy. BUT, is it not fair to hold a QB to a higher standard? The big knock on Connor Cook right now is that he was not a captain of Michigan State. No one holds it against a safety or tight end that they aren't leaders or respected by their teammates. Everyone has to believe in the QB. It is different. If I knew Johnny would improve as much this off-season as he did last, I'd be all in on Joey Bosa. But man, he's probably sleeping off a hangover as a write.
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The days of the "character" (ala Babe Ruth, Joe Namath, etc) are quickly slipping away, Because their antics used to be the rumors of legends, passed around in bars among friends who "heard from a guy".. now there are photos and videos of every thing.. to be replaced by high strung, PR-types, born with a silver spoon in their mouths. OK, that's a gross over-simplification, but you get my drift... Yea, I don't think too many professional athletes are born with the silver spoon... fact is that image is everything now and the money to be made off the field at the highest level is just too great... you have to play the role. Not everybody has to be a choir boy, there is room for the "bad boy" but even that image still has to be managed and crafted. Oh yeah, the Babe Ruth and Joe Namath days are far behind us. The money to be made via endorsments can dwarf what a player can make in salary. But in this "PC" world we live in, sponsors don't pay for players that embarrass them. Or they dump them when something happens. (Think Mike Vick) But what's just as telling is when your PR/marketing firm cuts ties with you. When a PR firm can't spin you out of a mess you got yourself into, that spells trouble for your career. Johnny is young enough to perhaps overcome things. Let's see if he can. I hope he does. But I have my doubts. He's shown us nothing but contempt for authority. He's a Spoiled Brat.
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J/C... And here we go again...... David Watkins Verified account @dwatkinsNBC5 Trouble finds Manziel again. Early this morning FW Police were called to get information about a dispute between he and his GF. No arrests. Tweet Follow Nate Ulrich @NateUlrichABJ Fort Worth police say they're gathering info, will send info on altercation between Johnny Manziel and his girlfriend as soon as they can Tweet
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J/C... And here we go again...... David Watkins Verified account @dwatkinsNBC5 Trouble finds Manziel again. Early this morning FW Police were called to get information about a dispute between he and his GF. No arrests. Tweet Follow Nate Ulrich @NateUlrichABJ Fort Worth police say they're gathering info, will send info on altercation between Johnny Manziel and his girlfriend as soon as they can Tweet Jerry Jones should like this!
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Fortunately Greg hardy was there to calm down the situation.
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Not quite fair to jump to the Greg Hardy comparison.
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It's probabaly a good time for him to break up with her. They are dysfunctional.
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I've been trying to support Johnny through the last few months.. Johnny's problems are like many.. not all, but I do have my own experiences with friends that are blinded by Love.
Johnny needs to make some serious choices, soon ! Since there are no actual reports out yet on the situation, I'm not going to speculate.
In the case of my good friend, I do not pass judgement on who he is as a person, But I, along with others do voice that his relationship is not one for the best of his interests.
When he leaves the relationship he is functional as what we would consider an ideal friend and person. With much happiness we see him become the person we all grew to care about.
Unfortunately he seems to always go back and become the not so ideal friend.To us we see him differently and unhappy. Yet he insists and claims his happiness is when he is with her. This is a vise versa role as many women are better off with someone else.
Johnny and only Johnny has to figure this out, and unfortunate for Johnny, his choice to become an NFL QB has created an even larger base of people who see his choices.
Johnny, and assuming it was Colleen have to get some kind of help.. Someone of importance has to intervene, Whether that person can be successful to help the situation,we can only hope.
It's time for Johnny to man up to his situation, get it under control and get it figured out. Seek help in what ever areas of need be... These types of situations are all to common.
You chose the spotlight Johnny, your in it.. step back and look at it..do you honestly like what you see ?
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Dude needs to dump his woman... Obviously they are toxic together
I'm not saying it was her fault... Just that together they have significant issues.... Hope they both get help
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I just wonder if it was Mary Kay Cabot that called the cops. lol I heard lots of yelling and thinks breaking with my ear pressed to the keyhole lol
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j/c... Nate Ulrich @NateUlrichABJ Asked #NFL spokesman if league will investigate Manziel/gf altercation under personal conduct policy: "Yes. We are aware & looking into it." Tweet
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Dont have to be guilty to get suspended, just have to bring unwanted attention and negative publicity. He needs a sit down with the commish either way. someone needs to put a foot in his ass.
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Apologies for the report image being a little chopped up.
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Reading the report.. I take it Johnny called, she was being uncooperative and called him ex boyfriend..
Run Johnny Run, while you have the chance and stay the hell away from her...
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Wait, really? You think Johnny called and then ran away? The FWPD sent the chopper out to look for him!
Looks like it was a 3rd party that made the call.
It doesn't really matter anymore anyway. His time with the Browns is over anyway, he'll be someone else's problem before too long.
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I'm pretty sure he's doing whatever he can so that we cut him. So that he can decide where he goes next.
Everyone assume Dallas. And that might be true.
But if he wasn't do I a new thing wrong every week, then theres an argument to keep him.
He doesnt want to be here. So hes going to screw off until we drop him.
Hell, if no one is going to give us anything for him, id just bury him on the depth chart, never make him an active player. And let him rot away. I assume we cant sue him, because "being a dumbass" isnt a legal term.. so id just let him rot for the rest of his rookie deal.
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If he doesn't want to play here, I'd trade him to another cold place with nasty fans. Maybe Buffalo or Philly.
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If he doesn't want to play here, I'd trade him to another cold place with nasty fans. Maybe Buffalo or Philly. Pittsburgh ?
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We should just give him more time, he'll eventually figure it out.
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I'd just read that report before coming here. My first impressions are that I don't know how much of the issue there is him, but what I do know is that it doesn't matter what she looks like, she's totally at the wrong end of the spectrum on the Hot/Crazy Matrix.
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Wait, really? You think Johnny called and then ran away? The FWPD sent the chopper out to look for him! Yes I do, and they found him safe and in no danger, he was away from her... lol
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What other NFL team has to deal with this kind of nonsense from one of their QBs, over and over again?
I will go ahead and answer that... none.
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If I cant trade him, or suspend him, id just have him go see the team doctor.. Oh your elbows sore? Boom, IR for the season.
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Any one got a picture of her?
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Bae and Bae holding Johnny's dog hostage..... 
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never thought i'd see the day where i read 'bae' on a browns forum Next up, vids posted of Browns Backers clubs rapping March Madness in unison.
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Hey man, hasn't anyone told you that it's not cool to get people's hopes up?
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At least she is an ex, so she should go away.
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Classic advice: "Never date anybody who is crazier than you are." Well, if he is following that, the reports make her at least 'crazy-ish' apparently; but that yardstick places him in a scary position.
Did Manti's girlfriend have a sister we can hook him up with, because this is way too much way too often. Just cut her out of the Browns. Maybe we could seek a restraining order or sumpin . . . .
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We should just give him more time, he'll eventually figure it out. I'd say about 5 to 10 years from now, give or take: 
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Las Vegas Raiders. He is already there so he can make the meetings and keep his appointments. I wonder if another team would have put up with the nonsense and blackeyes he has brought with him.
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She needs a bigger rack than that.
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She needs a bigger rack than that. Easily remedied with a few thousand bucks.
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