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Out of that list at the top of the thread, I like Sudfeld from IU for a very late round pick and stash him on the roster somewhere.. I recall OSU having problems with him and I did like his arm a fair bit.

Here is an interesting look at Paxton Lynch.

http://insidetheiggles.com/2016/01/24/eagles-scouting-report-paxton-lynch/

So many strip sack fumbles.. he's making it easy..

He looks like he's pitching a baseball

identical to Tebow,

Do we have anything like those pictures for Aaron rodgers or somebody good for comparison?

Aaron Rodgers is probably not the guy you wanna use. Not sure if anyone has his arm strength.

We aren't comparing arm strength, just throwing motion. But any "good" qb would work.

Might also be nice to see some of the top qb's in this class as well.

My point is that you typically don't want to break-down the mechanics of guys who have huge arms. Guys like Cam, Rodgers, Ben, etc. They can get away w/things that other guys can't.

I think my favorite person to watch throw the football was Michael Vick.

Dude would just like.. flick his wrist..

And the ball would go 40 yards on a rope.. dead on..

Cal's Jared Goff will participate in passing drills at combine

By Chase Goodbread
College Football 24/7 writer
Published: Feb. 3, 2016 at 04:28 p.m. Updated: Feb. 3, 2016 at 04:55 p.m. 0 Likes | 10 Comments

Which quarterbacks will and won't throw at the NFL Scouting Combine is always a subject of intrigue for the annual event that brings more than 300 of the best NFL draft prospects to Indianapolis for workouts and interviews.


The combine (Feb. 23-29) is still a few weeks away, but there's no longer any suspense with Jared Goff, the former Cal star who has a chance to be the first quarterback chosen in the 2016 NFL Draft.

"I'll do it all. I'll throw, and I'll do it all. I think it's the right thing to do. I've got nothing to hide. (I'll) go out there and have some fun," Goff told ProFootballTalk Live on Wednesday.

Scouts will no doubt appreciate Goff's willingness to show off his arm in the combine environment. Some top quarterbacks won't, preferring instead to throw for scouts at their campus pro-day workouts, with the benefit of a familiar environment and throwing to wide receivers they played with in college.

Other top quarterbacks available in the draft include North Dakota State's Carson Wentz, Memphis' Paxton Lynch, Michigan State's Connor Cook, Penn State's Christian Hackenberg and Ohio State's Cardale Jones. Whether Goff's decision makes any of them more likely to also throw is unclear, but the more quarterbacks who commit to taking part in combine passing drills, the more pressure others feel to do the same.


http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000...ills-at-combine

Something tells me that Goff will move ahead of Wentz on the hype train after the combine.

I am expecting all 3 of these guys will not turn down any opportunities to impress. The race is that close.

j/c

If census is no QB is worthy at #2, what is wrong taking Dak Prescott? It appears all QBs this year is a bit of a project. Why not Dak? I'll admit my only viewing was the senior bowl. He made a ton of mistakes but he moved the offense for a score. A weak Cam Newton! But, if "coachable,"...food for thought.

If it is determined that none of the QBs are worthy of the second pick, then we should take a project and sit him behind McCown. At the very least, we would then have a quality backup.

What if I told you almost a year ago that youd be suggesting McCown as our 2016 starter?

I'd tell you to have an intervention with me for my crack problem.

I wouldn't want to start the season with McCown, but I don't see any other better options.

Just for the record, I really like Dak Prescott in the 3rd round.

I think a year of coaching and he'd be good to go.

However there may be someone on this board that would explode if our black HC drafts a black QB.. at least that'd be entertaining.

Being the Browns needed a veteran at QB. I thought Hoyer filled that role as well. I have no problem McCown being the starter.

Browns need a veteran QB. I see no reason developing a QB. My question...Davis and McCown good enough drafting a two/three year QB project?

There are no 2+ year projects, unless you already have a franchise QB.

I like Prescott as well. It'll take more than a year. He has a lot of mechanical issues.

Color...errrr! This is upsetting. Who gives a rat arse what color? I'm not talking your post...simply this general thought. As long as there are more ticks in the "W" column who f'n cares. Somebody tell Minnesota, Seattle, and Carolina they screwed up!!!!

Under normal circumstances I'd agree. Browns need an identity and leadership. Veterans establish that agenda. Rookies must learn the game.

I'd be fine if they took Prescott. I really hope Hue just takes his guy wherever that might be in the draft.

This.

Here's my issue with planning to draft Prescott. Where do you draft him? I heard someone suggest the 3rd round. That would be pick #65. What if Arizona see him as the heir apparent for Carson Palmer and takes him at pick #61? Then what do you do?

I don't you go in saying "I wanna take (a specific QB) in this round.."

I think if you've decided against a QB at #2. And are looking for "project", Then as each pick comes up, you weigh them as prospects against everyone else.

And take them when their value fits with a pick.

You cross him off your board and start looking at the next guy on the list. I would doubt they would go into the draft with only Plan A and nothing else.

Yep.

Teams have vertical and horizontal boards. Reaching for a player vertically does not make much sense just because you have a need. You can adjust your vertical board a bit depending on the horizontal board, but you can never ever ignore the vertical board. From what I understand, it's no more that 3 spots.

That's why I said earlier I don't think it a reach to take a qb early. It isn't a reach if he isn't there when you next pick.

So if we don't take a QB at 2, and he goes at 31, then it wouldnt have been a reach to take him at 2?

The horizontal board is best used for trading.

If I have the next guy I want falling to the middle of a round and I'm at the top with my pick, I might trade down in that round or up from the next.

As an aside, I am pretty sure Farmer did.

But to your point. You could have a plan a, b, and c and still come away without a viable Qb option.

Then on to plan d, e, and f in free agency and to H, I, and J in the 2017 draft.

When the other alternative of massively reaching fails, you wind up on those plans anyway.

But those plans are d,e,f rather than a,b,c for a reason.

Very true, but like I said if you reach for the wrong QB you'll be on those plans too, so hope that plans A,B, and C don't fail.

http://www.si.com/nfl/2016/02/04/super-bowl-50-jared-goff-cal-nfl-draft-2016

Just watching more on Goff. I think if he played at a elite power 5 school he'd be a consensus #1 overall pick the same way Sam Bradford was when he came out.

Bradford also had the benefit of playing against horrible Big 12 defenses. As a matter of fact I think Goffs career path can go either the way Bradfords has or Matt Ryan. It's important for him to fill his frame out.