DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum QB Derek Anderson regrets the way he left Cleveland

Cam Newton thinks the world of the guy.

I'm glad for DA right now. I think he should stay right where he is. I mean, a guy going from the situation in Carolina to the perma-rebuild here in Cleveland? I think that says something about his mental state... :-p

He considered doing just that when Chud came here, and then observed from a distance how that all unraveled.

As for the DA vs McCown debate... I don't agree with the people who would swap the two. DA is definitely the more talented QB, but I don't think he can become THE GUY. McCown is perfect for what we need right now. He got it done last season, and he's all about mentoring (but not babysitting, understandably). McCown is a bit smarter of a QB than DA. Yeah, I'm good with McCown being our bridge. We just need the right guy to bridge to.

DA's biggest issue was lack of touch, and always wanting the home run pass. You don't make it far in this league if you can't evolve your game.

I was never a fan of Anderson, but it's nice that he can reflect now, look at the situation and realize he should have handled it differently. Definitely don't want him back here.

DA's touch on the deep passes is about as good as any qb ever.

Hit the outside in post pattern like a beast. The further the throw, the better he was.

Then came Cincinnati.

I'd welcome him back though. Why not?

jmo. be the best qB on our roster right now. he is one of the reasons cam is so good right now. ofcourse not half the job mccown did with johnny.....

Well, I meant short passes lol. His short throws were atrocious.

so when you going to pay me? that hundred where you swore quinn was going to be on a nfl team way longer than DA?

Still tipping the Johnny Juice are you ...I never posted that, insinuated that in any way. Never made a bet with you.

The only thing I said was at the time I didn't think BQ had gotten a far shot. Where you come up with that other stuff is beyond me.

You should start your posts with " Once upon a time "

And his swing passes to RB's in the flat had the exact same velocity.

He threw a beautiful deep ball, but was still an incomplete QB, imo.

I'm surprised Jamal Lewis never ended up with dislocated arms on some of those dump offs or screen passes.

That's not exactly true. He threw it hard on the short passes over the middle and the quick outs, but not on the screens and swing passes.

I used to laugh my butt off about how the expert fans used to complain about the hard passes. The guys catching them were not you and Rocket. They were professionals. I'll put it to you this way.....DA is still in the league----those guys ain't.

So we can't criticize any NFL player unless we get an NFL roster spot?

What?

Isn't that what you were implying? And dude, he threw screens all over the place. They could be three feet over the guys head, in the dirt or behind him. Awful touch.

No, I wasn't implying that. I was saying the receivers he was throwing to were out of the league while he is still in it. I was not bashing Clem or Rock.......LOL.......I was saying that those guys should have caught those "hard" passes. They are paid to do that.

And dude.............are you always so affable?

I have to agree with Clem on this one, but I also have to wonder if some of those drops were intentionally dropped by Edwards while he was trying to find a way out of Cleveland. Guy had one good year, then couldn't seem to catch anything that wasn't thrown on national television.

I am more affable than pblack, but then again, who isn't?

BRW, sorry if I mis-construed your post.

I don't think Edwards dropped balls on purpose just to get out of Cleveland. I mean, if he were still in the league, maybe, but wherever he went after us, he dropped passes.

He just dropped passes.. That's his cross to bear

It's okay. I went back and looked. I did a poor job of wording that point.

Catching a three yard pass over the middle from DA is the equivalent to a catcher on the receiving end of a Nolan Ryan fastball without wearing a glove.

His ball placement on dinky little throws drove me up the wall.

He also had one of---if not thee---greatest year in the HISTORY of the Brown's franchise.

DA is the most under appreciated player in the history of the Browns.

What I wouldn't give to experience another 10 win season. It felt so good to be relevant again that year. I thought that was the start of some sustained good years. Too bad Edwards and Winslow were knuckleheads.

I remember never fearing any third and long on offense that year. I knew DA and Joe were going to connect. We were an actual professional football team with a professional offense. Analysts were picking us to go to the Super Bowl in 2008.

We haven't had a professional offense since DA left.

This team makes me so sad.

i'll take DA rocket arm over the ducks Brady quinn was throwing.

It's funny to sit here and read positives about DA now. I remember he was called "fools gold" back then. Funny. I did enjoy that season a lot. Had a ball watching them come alive. in fact the entire town came alive.

If Jimmy and Dee Haslam want to see what they are in for once we start winning, they don't have to go back to the 80's to see it, just look at 2007 and think what it would be like.

DA to Joe Jurevicius was a great combination for the Browns in '07. I still recall a 3rd-and-20-ish situation where Joe ran a deep comeback pattern outside the hash to the right and Derek threw a 30 yard laser that might have put a hole in Joe's chest if he hadn't caught it. I swear that throw had a vapor-trail. Never saw a throw like that by a Browns' QB before, or since.

it is bro.

i think that 2008 season, even if we regressed, if we would've went 8-8 or so, DA would've got another year.

but 2008 was such a cluster...

Yep.

how rude.

Should I be hearing 'how rude' in C-3PO's voice or JarJar Binks voice?

'Full House' how rude.

We used to call DA "Mister Potato Cannon." Just seemed to have no touch on any short throws at all.

Derek Anderson no longer thinks we don't deserve a winner?

Wonderful, now that curse is over we just have about seven more to get rid of so we can actually have a good team..

The game day threads and what I saw threads were quite vitriolic as I recall. Which DA will we get today? Jekyll or Hyde wasn't it?

We'd all take him and his flaws now surely in hindsight. 10 wins and a sniff of playoffs seems a long way away. Don't it always seem to go.......

I'm sure I'm going to get killed for this, but I wanted Anderson to return to Cleveland, and I might not be against it now. Anderson hasn't exactly had a ton of playing time in Carolina, but any time he HAS played, he's looked solid. He always looks killer in the preseason (which I realize doesn't mean a whole lot), and the few times he played in the regular season he played pretty well. Anderson is a good example of what a guy can do with elite talent around him, and a very capable defense. Anderson has a tremendous arm, although his touch was suspect at times, and he had other issues. But the guy can spin the rock, and I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't get some interest around the league.

Why is the relevant??