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How are you rewatching it? Is it on a channel?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eB-Sl8GbPgE

technology, eve. that's part 1.


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OK cool. Thanks!

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Kasich should take some public speaking courses...he is always slouched over chopping at the air..and his hair looks like he just got out of bed and ran a comb through it.

He looks weak...sounds weak...and I just cant get behind the guy as president...he very well be none of the things I said but damn he just needs to learn how to project power or the image he is in control and how to talk without kung fuing the air.

Id probably vote for him as governor again..maybe..but he sucks for a presidential candidate...and I will be living in a new state soon and wont have to give him a second thought.

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I liked Rubio's character. Came from hard times, family of immigrants who made their way up to the point where sonny is a Senator and running for President. The American Dream.

Last night I saw how robot like he is, how inexperienced he is, and how he has never been on the carpet like a Governor has, where he has to step up and make life changing decisions for his people.

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I wanted Rand Paul but he's done. I have no more horses in this race.

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Originally Posted By: Swish
so i'm rewatching the debate like i have all the other debates.

man.....rubio got slaughtered up there.


wow…even my life isn't that boring! rofl


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This is no time to play the race card!

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well youre free to do so but his character?? he sold out the Tea Party for the establishment...and I have the feeling he would say anything to get elected...and I'm glad Christie destroyed his ass last night...and put him on shine.

I admit I know very little but what Ive read recently about the guy well...you can have him nice story, family and all 40.

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so i'm rewatching the debate like i have all the other debates.

man.....rubio got slaughtered up there.


wow…even my life isn't that boring! rofl


im in the crib by myself man. i dunno what else to do with my time haha


“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”

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This is no time to play the race card!


Very funny!

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on top of that, his financial history is scary.

i mean...we want a guy with a history like THAT trying to balance and manage our budget?

man hell nah.


“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”

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Originally Posted By: Swish
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so i'm rewatching the debate like i have all the other debates.

man.....rubio got slaughtered up there.


wow…even my life isn't that boring! rofl


im in the crib by myself man. i dunno what else to do with my time haha


I love my granddaughter to death but the crying has gotten on my last nerve and would trade spots with you in a heart beat...I going to leave in a minute just to get away from it..its driving me nuts.

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I never liked Rubio. It's very shallow but I can't get past his speaking style. He tries too hard to be compelling and it comes off fake and awkward.

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on top of that, his financial history is scary.

i mean...we want a guy with a history like THAT trying to balance and manage our budget?

man hell nah.


I agree a ton..the more I read the more warts this Rubio guy has and I dont like him.

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Originally Posted By: EveDawg
I never liked Rubio. It's very shallow but I can't get past his speaking style. He tries too hard to be compelling and it comes off fake and awkward.


Thats because he is fake and awkward.

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so i did some fact checking on the immigration portion of the debate.

cruz was wrong completely on immigration.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-...e-were-way-off/

and a bunch of other sources, obama has deported more than clinton or bush.

also, immigrants has returned a a lesser rate than under both clinton and bush.


“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”

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competing for healthcare prices.....

yea, nothing can possibly go wrong with that.


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can;t find part 2, but this link is the full debate, click the 2nd part of the debate starts at 51:38

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eA6eVKNobBg


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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
If Trump went Independent and Bloomberg entered the race as an Independent also, would you finally have your own Primary?


They'd have less than a month since we're part of Super Tuesday.


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If Trump went Independent and Bloomberg entered the race as an Independent also, would you finally have your own Primary?


They'd have less than a month since we're part of Super Tuesday.


I will invest more into healthcare stocks if this happens because so many Independents will be injured climbing down from their fences to hurry off to vote! brownie

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competing for healthcare prices.....

yea, nothing can possibly go wrong with that.


The cost of health care will not go down until we remove the insurance middleman and force Big Pharma to negotiate prices on medicine like every other major country in the world.

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Originally Posted By: OldColdDawg
The cost of health care will not go down until we remove the insurance middleman and force Big Pharma to negotiate prices on medicine like every other major country in the world.


Quoted for truth. Some people put pure capitalism above the health of our citizens.


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The cost of health care will not go down until we remove the insurance middleman and force Big Pharma to negotiate prices on medicine like every other major country in the world.


Quoted for truth. Some people put pure capitalism above the health of our citizens.


Just as some push for pure Socialism above the health of our entire Nation. America was never meant to be a Day Care. Bringing down the entire system will make everyone needy and Pharma will produce only cheap aspirins.

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on top of that, his financial history is scary.

i mean...we want a guy with a history like THAT trying to balance and manage our budget?

man hell nah.


I agree a ton..the more I read the more warts this Rubio guy has and I dont like him.


What's wrong with warts...?

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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING

Just as some push for pure Socialism above the health of our entire Nation. America was never meant to be a Day Care. Bringing down the entire system will make everyone needy and Pharma will produce only cheap aspirins.


Since you promote big business over the health of your fellow Americans, we see you have no understanding of basic human rights. The dollar is more important than people to you.


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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING

Just as some push for pure Socialism above the health of our entire Nation. America was never meant to be a Day Care. Bringing down the entire system will make everyone needy and Pharma will produce only cheap aspirins.


Since you promote big business over the health of your fellow Americans, we see you have no understanding of basic human rights. The dollar is more important than people to you.


That is interesting because many of those big businesses are currently moving to other countries due to the high corporate taxes in "America the Beautiful Day Care" your kind has created.
Well get busy because there are tens of thousands more jobless and needy coming your way as corporate America bails on your foolishness.

I think if you make America good for business, the jobs and medical benefits will follow, helping those needy you have created to help themselves.

Wave goodbye now, there goes...

1. Walgreens

Walgreens is the U.S.’ largest pharmacy retailer with 8,200 stores and locations in all 50 states, and the company is currently deciding whether to renounce its U.S. corporate status and instead claim on paper to be a Swiss company.

2. Medtronic

Medtronic Inc., a medical device maker with $17 billion in annual sales, is in the middle of purchasing Ireland’s Covidien for $42.9 billion as a tax-avoidance scheme.

3. Perrigo

Perrigo is, according to Fortune Magazine’s report, “the world’s largest seller of over-the-counter store-brand drugs.” It is “headquartered in Michigan but incorporated in low-tax Ireland.”

4. Ingersoll-Rand
5. Eaton Corp
6. Pfizer

Bye Y'all. Bye...

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Why do the jobs and benefits go if they're still physically located here even though they are 'incorporated' off shore?


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The fact these corporations are allowed to move their corporate headquarters to evade paying taxes should be squashed.

But hey, businesses raping American tax payers seems fine to you. There should be severe tax penalties for such actions.

Like I said, you think the businesses of big pharma and insurance companies are more important than the health of your fellow Americans.

No matter how you spin it, you don't give a damn about your fellow Americans, only business.


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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
The fact these corporations are allowed to move their corporate headquarters to evade paying taxes should be squashed.



Spoken like a true Socialist.

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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG


But hey, businesses raping American tax payers seems fine to you. There should be severe tax penalties for such actions.



You speak so high and mighty about helping our people as your kind rape corporations and working citizens with high taxes to take care of those poor people you continue to create. Not so high and mighty after all, now is it?

It is you socialists that are the true enemy of the people.

If America had a fair tax system, the World's Corporations would be looking to come here! Then we would find ourselves with not enough employees as we begged the Mexicans to cross the border to come help us.

But no, you want to increase taxes and drive business and jobs away, creating a whole class of poor for you to feel good about taking care of.

Foolishness!

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The fact these corporations are allowed to move their corporate headquarters to evade paying taxes should be squashed.

But hey, businesses raping American tax payers seems fine to you. There should be severe tax penalties for such actions.

That sounds like if your kid gets in a fight at school, to show him that fighting is wrong, you take him home and beat the crap out of him.


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What have I said about helping the poor?

I'm talking about keeping people alive. About them not dying from a lack of healthcare.

And you? You talk in catch phrases and put business above the life of our own people.

You do know that Jesus healed people without sending them a bill, right?

Right to life? No, just pro birth. After that? To hell with them.


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That sounds like if your kid gets in a fight at school, to show him that fighting is wrong, you take him home and beat the crap out of him.


It all depends on who they're fighting, what they're fighting and why they are fighting. To me what you are describing is exactly what businesses who move their money out of America are doing. Beating the crap out of a nation that made them rich.


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That sounds like if your kid gets in a fight at school, to show him that fighting is wrong, you take him home and beat the crap out of him.


It all depends on who they're fighting, what they're fighting and why they are fighting. To me what you are describing is exactly what businesses who move their money out of America are doing. Beating the crap out of a nation that made them rich.

I didn't really describe anything... Just curious how it would work if a company wants to move to avoid paying taxes.. you punish them with more taxes...

Pit, I'm all for keeping companies here.. there are two ways to do that, reward good behavior, punish bad behavior...

Rewarding good behavior would be in the form of lower taxes for succeeding.. punishing bad behavior would be in the form of punitive punishment taxes for leaving...

It is a complex issue, one that I will confess I don't fully understand.. but profitable corporations seem to have the upper hand in the debate.


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It really isn't that hard if you look from the top down instead of looking at the poor and needy up.

-You have a Nation of People you want to excel.

-You make that Nation friendly to Business with lower tax rates and laws to help them grow.

-Those businesses make good profits and hire lots of people who will also pay taxes on their income.

-You end up with more money for taking care of the poor because collecting lower taxes from a whole bunch of business and all the new people they hire gives you a higher take in dollars for the poor.

Now that's Murica!
That is the Christian thing to do, to actually help the people, not to punish one group to help the other group that
socialism created!

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-You make that Nation friendly to Business with lower tax rates and laws to help them grow.

-Those businesses make good profits and hire lots of people who will also pay taxes on their income.

40, I desperately want lower taxes and less government involvement, but where is the responsibility on the part of the growing business?

We've had this model for a long time. Corporations have taken advantage of every law they can in order to grow... one of the ways many have increased profitability and growth is by keeping wages as low as possible, providing minimal benefits, etc. So while the government looked out for business and employees looked out for business, business looked out for itself..

Your model will work if, and only if, the corporations own up to their own social responsibility.. and they aren't.


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yea, Trump definitely destroyed her campaign bid.

it makes me wonder if Trump wasn't running, who would be the front runner?


It wouldn't be Carly.


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Some people are responsible, good citizens and some are irresponsible criminals, just a fact of life.

The Supreme Court has ruled that Corporations are people too. That is now the law.

Good citizens should not be punished and criminals should be.

Wouldn't take much to find the balance.

No person HAS to be responsible, they should want to be. Reward those who are and punish those who aren't.
Make it more profitable to be responsible and they will beat down your door to show you their greatness.

Make it so the entire world wants a business in the USA, it will benefit us all in the end, Rich, Poor, and MIddle.

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