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Thanks for the information. I actually like what Hue had to say and it gives me a bit of hope for the future.

Of course, if they check RGII's character references, it probably means he won't be a Brown. LOL He was not very popular w/teammates and coaches.

Thanks, I had no idea. There has to be a trade-off in there somewhere. I wonder what it is for the 'Boys.

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/712244167389216768

A positive thing to read, I'd say.


https://twitter.com/MaryKayCabot/status/712245720888303616

Hue doesn't play many games....#HueKnowit

Good! Save the games for the field...

Robert Griffin III has convinced Hue Jackson he's 'humbled' and has 'taken responsibility' for Washington debacle

BOCA, RATON, Fla -- Browns coach Hue Jackson said quarterback Robert Griffin III convinced him on his visit to Cleveland that he's learned from his mistakes in Washington and is ready to be the face of a franchise again.

"I heard the truth,'' Jackson said at the AFC coaches' breakfast here. "I mean, he takes responsibility. He knows there's things he could have done better. And that's where he is. To me that showed the humbleness. Because that's what it's all about. In this league you don't grow if you don't admit that you've made some mistakes.

"It's no different than myself when I was the head coach of the Raiders. I made some mistakes. And you grow from them and you learn from them. Sometimes you're not ready to do it the first time. Things happen. You move on from it and you grow from it and you get over the next hump.''

The Browns are moving toward signing the free agent quarterback and it could happen soon. Jackson was encouraged by what he heard during their two-day session Friday and Saturday, and feels 'humble' is the appropriate word for the former Heisman Trophy winner.

"Absolutely,'' he said. "You have to be. You have to have a side to you that says 'look, it's not them, it's part me too.' And I think that goes a long way with me. Until that happens, can you start to rebuild if you still think it was about them? You're kind of walking with that gook on you and that doesn't come off as fast.''

He said Griffin explained to him "some things that everybody didn't know about'' in regards to whether or not he was a good teammate.

He also said he needed to hear "a lot'' from the 2012 NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year about why things didn't work out his last three seasons in Washington, including last season when he lost his job to Kirk Cousins.

"But again it's the environment that I think the organization along with myself creates,'' he said. "We're talking about the young guys too. They're going to be well-schooled and well led in that manner as well. I believe in our process to get guys to do what we need them to do. As long as a guy is willing to put in the work and he understands that there is a lot to do.

"There's more to playing quarterback than just throwing the ball, handing the ball off. You got a lot of responsibility, just as I do. As long as you can make guys understand that, whether they're young guys that are coming up in the draft ... I'm not saying anything to you that I haven't said to the young guys too. It's just the way we're going to do it here, and just the way the expectation is. Guys got to meet that expectation.''

Jackson said Griffin is "in a great place right now. I think he wants to play. He understands he's talented enough to play and I think he knows there's some things he needs to fix and I think he's willing to do that. He knows there are some things he could've done better and I think he wants to take on whatever challenge lies ahead however it unfolds for him.''

Jackson said he believes Griffin will be open to improving his skills, including reading defenses and a quicker release.

"At some point in time if someone's telling you that this is your issue, you've got to fix it,'' he said.

He said he doesn't buy into the notion that defenses have figured him out.

"Everybody has a book on everybody in this league,'' said Jackson. "But at the same time it's the people that are supporting you or creating an environment for you and I think that's what's most important.

Jackson said Griffin III answered all of the questions to his satisfaction. The only thing left is for the Browns to sign him.

"Our visit was very informative, a lot of dialogue back and forth,'' he said. "A lot of tough questions asked, a lot of tough questions answered. I don't baby people. I'm sorry. That's just not who I am. I ask the tough questions and I expect to get the tough answers, and he handled all that extremely well. He answered some questions that I had and I think he represented himself the right way.''

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2016/03/robert_griffin_iii_has_convinc.html

I was really hoping for him to be picked by the Browns when he came out of college. Obviously I've been concerned post rookie year but I'd love for him to come aboard and turn things around.

2 years should do it with maybe a player option on a 3rd? Draft a QB somewhere in the draft, #2 if you believe in the guy, then have a depth chart of hopefully Griffin, McNown, rookie, then next year, Griffin, "rookie" and late round pick. The third year we can decide if we install the rookie (who will have played at some point) or trade them and extend Griffin...

Wishful thinking I know...

We did that for McCoy and he ended up playing like week 10...

I figure with RGIII and McNown, we might be able to make it through a season without going to #3...oh wait...

Before we talk about the article, can we go over this quote from Hue?



...? :-p

Well, can't say I'm overjoyed about Griffin maybe coming here, but fact remains, he probably is.

I could think of worse situations, like having Johnny Football back for one. And Trading a pick and spending a boat load of cash to get Kap.

Hue Jackson is kinda known as a QB whisperer. If he can get something out of Terrell Pryor, I'm sure he can get something out of RG., at least I hope so.

I still hope we pick up a QB in the draft somewhere.

I was waiting for someone to catch this.

RG is low risk high reward if you buy into analytic s. Also we don't want to start a rookie QB while rebuilding a Oline. Also we need 3 QB's that are NFL ready right now. I'm pretty sure if we get RG we'll also take a QB at #2 in the draft. JHMO

Hmm, I like the idea of him. He's learned from his mistakes. He might not be the stellar playmaker he once was, but definitely sounds like he can add something to our team.

I don't think he's learned, (the note he left on his locker in Washington), but if Hue's cool with it, then fine. As several have stated, this is better than many of the QBs out there, and definitely better than trading for Kaep.

One thing I got from the article is that I like Hue just a little bit more. Him bringing up his time with the Raiders was a nice glimpse into Hue learning from Hue's mistakes. I think he's one of the better coaches in the league to try to reboot RG3s career, even though the environment and roster here isn't ideal.

As I mentioned before, I'm cautiously optimistic.

Too bad we didn't hire Hue instead of Rob Ryan long ago. IMO we hired the wrong Oak coach back then. Another brilliant Mangenius move.

Well he is mobile and can pass, if he can stay healthy we might have something. Didn't like him out of college and couldn't believe we were even in the race to get him. Talk about a team overpaying!

But at the right price I think a "humbled" RG3 might be a good deal.

And he can leave those stupid superman socks in Washington.

What? I don't get it. Can you expound?

Is nobody else kicking the tires on this guy? Reading that article it seems like he is clinging to the idea of coming here like it's his last hope. As much of a bust as he was, that still seems surprising to me considering our team's current state & reputation.

I agree with those saying it's a low risk move. Why not?

My sister-in-law is a big Skins fan. Says we have still avoided rock bottom but that ends the day we sign this guy. LOL

I found this: Expressive word, perhaps blend of goo and muck

Concerning RGIII:

I have 3 issues w/him:

1. He doesn't read defenses well enough pre and post-snap.

2. Poor pocket presence. Holds the ball too long because of number 1 and then rolls into needless sacks.

3. Going to the owner to trash coaches and how his teammates reportedly didn't like him.

I have a few things that I do like about him:

1. Throws a beautiful deep ball.

2. Can be accurate when his mechanics are in order.

3. Was productive in college and in the NFL, thus the talent is there.

I think the Browns might be smart to sign him and draft Cardale Jones in rounds 3 or 4.

I can't comment on your first paragraph but I am in total agreement with the second.
He reminds of Tomlin,whom I think is a very good coach.

Good post, Vers.

The thing that really concerns me is him not being able to read defenses well. (Ut-oh.)

I'm sure a few teams would live to have him come in as a back up, or compete for the job..

We are one of the few places he could come and be named the guy right away.

I still think him signing with the Rams would be the perfect Jeff Fisher move.

Thanks.

And you are right, that is the biggest concern. Hard to get past that.

But hey, at this point, I think he's worth a shot. He won't cost us any draft picks.

That article sure makes it seem like RGIII is coming our way. I would expect (as do others, I believe) that if this happens, then we pass on a QB at #3. It's taking a very big chance on that as we'll hopefully not be this close to the #1 pick for quite a while...

I would actually have some hope if the Browns go w/RGIII, McCown, and Cardale.

Doesn't that pretty much describe this?

It's a big mistake, but not as big as our last mistake or a bigger mistake we could make right now.

To be fair, the guy hasn't been seen on a field in over a year, we have no idea how much he was studying (if any) or how much he may have progressed.

I was the biggest anti RG3 person around but hey he is 3 years removed from being rookie of the year and that injury to his leg was a nasty one. Gruden's scheme requires a great football mind someone that can decipher defenses quickly and precise. That just isnt RG3.

Hue allows more time for plays to develop as the reads are deep to short. Also RG3 is fearless, he wont shy from pressure.

Personally, he is probably the best bang for the buck QB we can get and it allows us not to get the big eyes of desperation. None of these QBs are worth a top 10 pick no matter how you look at it, other than we are so desperate and we have a chance to take the best in a week class. (scary mindset)

I would hang onto McCown and draft my QB later. Move down a few times add a couple picks, maybe take a Lynch, Prescott, Cardale or 2 of those guys.

Carry 4 Qbs on the roster, the positional value has never been higher. Amazing upside with those guys. College isnt making QBs anymore, then take the time and do it yourself.

And maybe even allow us to pick a couple of impact players at #2 and #32. I'm fine with what you said about Jones in the 3rd.

Something that impressed me about Jones besides his arm was that the stage wasn't too big for him in that playoff run, not even facing Alabama for God's sake.

Atleast RG3 has accuracy especially mid to deep. We could be eating 16 mil a year for Kap

I think that RG3 struggles to read the field and even struggled in a dumbed down offense to read the field. He needs to be able to read the field because he can't run around anymore.

There is always a chance that Hue may work wonders, but I am betting that if we draft a rookie and sign RG3, the rookie will be ready to play before RG3 will.

It's still worth a shot as long as we sign him to a contract that makes him cut-able.

I am happy with the possible signing of RG3 and looking forward to Hue and him working together. Hue might be a coach that he truly respects and I think that his skill set is very good. But what I really like is the hope that the front office will look to pick the BEST talent available as opposed to drafting based off of a need. Just maybe they may have created some flexibility with the draft slot and could move down, but not too far down and acquire some additional pick(s).

Wentz's pro day is Thursday, if I'm the Browns, I don't even think about making a move regarding RG3 until after seeing how Wentz performs in comparison to Goff.

Yep, this is my best-case scenario as well.

I think if we sign RGIII then McCown is most likely out.

RGIII, Cardale, and Shaw would be my favorite scenario as of this moment.