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I welcome everyone on the Jack/Goff train!

That took me too long to get.

I love Bosa, but I'm just not sure how he fits into a 3-4. I am not a big Ramsey guy, both would be nice players to have in a move down situation, but I'm on the cfrs train. I think Wetnz just reminds me too much of that other garbage ginger we drafted. Might be clouding my judgement.

I agree my man and his name is Carson Wentz. A qb driven league. playin in the afc north, at 6'5" and 237 he"s exactly what the BROWNS need at #2

J/C

@2 Jalen Ramsey, it was Jack but our secondary is in shambles and Ramsey is in the top five overall.

@32 trade down within the top ten and get Michael Thomas and extra picks.

@65 Cardale Jones

Mid rounds - Justin Jenkins OLB and Keith Marshall RB both of UGA.

I still think I'd go with Wentz but the Ramsey pick is growing on me...

Jared Goff
Josh Doctosn
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Tajae Sharpe

Not for the #2 pick, but I like that OT from Indiana.

I want Wentz in round one or if a team trades up and takes him then take Ramsey. Round 2 there will be a defensive stud that everyone is surprised is still available (Ogbah, Lawson). Round 3 take Hunter Henry or a wide receiver (Leonte Carroo or Pharoh Cooper). Round 4 take best available offensive lineman or take TE (Jerell Adams or Nick Vannett).

Based on analytics, I'm starting to think we should draft both of the WRs named Michael Thomas. Since the reboot, we've had a 100% success rate on drafting players with the last name Thomas.

I like Wentz. He seems to represent the culture that I want the Browns to have. I think that a team's culture often starts with/flows down from the QB. (Obviously the Coach and FO have some effect on that, too.) I think the top 3 QBs are really fairly close in the case of talent, but I think Wentz leads the field in leadership, work ethic/desire, and intelligence. The best QBs of the past decade have probably been Brady and Manning and I think those qualities I mentioned are what helped/played a large role in them getting there.

Oh, you like Wentz now.

I found this video on Wentz. Link It is a showcase piece, but what I am taking away with it is his anticipation and touch on his passes.

I realize that this is a small sample, but he does a really good job of putting the ball where only his receiver really has a chance of making the catch. The only part I did not like on the video was that it didn't show him going through progressions or looking off anyone.

With that said I can't say if he can or he cannot do those things. The one play I thought I saw him look to the left on the deep route, saw the man was double covered with the safety, and he came back to the open man over the middle.

Maybe someone that has watch more film on QBs and or Wentz may have a different take. If you have a different opinion please let me know and explain it so I can learn something.

BTW I thought Wentz was supposed to be a big guy, but he didn't look that way in the video.

*snicker*

Sounds like some Groupon deal to me.

Trade back to 7 or 8. If the top 8 are Tunsil, ramsey, wentz, goff, zeke, Jack, buckner and Hargreaves maximize your draft real estate by trading back. After those guys theres a huge drop. The next 30 to 40 prospects grade very closely. If your lucky Stanley gets over drafted and you have a choice of 2 or 3 guys at 7 or 8 while picking up an early 2nd and then some.

I ate one of those once. I got sick.

I'm way behind in looking at prospects this year but the surest blue-chip prospect I think has to be Jalen Ramsey. Just seems to be the best all around talent plus sick measureables. We can't afford to bust on #2 so he's probably the biggest want for me.

OT Spriggs out of Indiana looks like he's a potential gem as well. For WR, I'd love to see us land Josh Doctson.

1st Round - This team needs a QB. Carson Wentz is my preference. If not him I would be alright with Jared Goff. There is no one player in this draft that will actually transform this team into a playoff contender this year. Might as well get the one player that could in a year or 2.

2nd thru 4th - I like players like Josh Doctson (If he was to fall to the 2nd round he has the best catch radius of all of the WR in this draft. After him I like Tyler Boyd WR. He is the most polished receiver. Precise route runner with good hands. On the DLine I like Sheldon Day. At the senior Bowl he lived in the offensive back field. Great penetration. I also, like RB Alex Collins from Arkansas.

In the late rounds 5 thru 7 players like Eric Stryker OLB Oklahoma. Under sized pass rusher but has a great motor. DeRunnya Wilson WR Miss State 6'4 225lbs. would make a large red zone target.

I see 3 workable strategies; 1) draft the QB of the future at #2, 2) BPA, and 3) trade back and accumulate picks.

For 1) I've been leaning towards Wentz, but Goff is growing on me. I worry about his frame and his arm strength, but his pocket sense is special, and he has succeeded against the PAC-12.

For 2) I'm not well enough acquainted with the options, but I like what I've read about both Ramsey and Jack. Buckner seems solid too.

For 3) I wouldn't want to drop too low in the first, but accumulating high picks in rounds 2 & 3 could go a long way to rebuilding.

One good thing is that we can afford to have a rookie QB sit for a year or 2, and work on their weaknesses.

If we draft Goff, and need him to bulk up, then we put one of our 75 strength coaches with him, and let him work on his strength and size.

Goff doesn't turn 22 until October. My guess is that he will be able to put quite a bit of weight on.

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I liked Higbee as a receiving TE, but we can probably cross him off the list now.

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I would like to see Ramsey at #2

What do I want?

I want a plan, well thought out and executed. 'Rome wasn't built in a day' and neither will a winning culture and team.

I want patience, both from the owner and the fans, to allow the process to survive the inevitable growing pains. I don't know better than those doing it. I have opinions, but not the knowledge. I am left to trust that they either know what they are doing, or are smart enough to figure it out without too many mistakes. Which brings me to my last and most important want.

I want it all to work. I want the team to stop being the laughing stock of the NFL. I want to be able to enjoy, before my time on earth is done, what it's like to root for a winner. Not just on the occasional Sunday, but on any given Sunday, I want the Cleveland Browns to have a legitimate chance to be the winner. And I want one of those Sundays to be in February.

Very well said...

I want us to take Darius Jackson at RB.

Scouting Report w/ 2015 Highlights and LSU Game

Jackson vs. Toledo Youtube video via draftbreakdown

Scouting Report with play references ( video clips)

I think we need a bigger back who can get the tough yards. EMU was awful and the scheme wasn't a great fit for him, but he still had over a thousand yards and double digit TDs. Offers some pass game versatility-often split out wide, can catch. Plays on special teams.

If he's there in the 7th as the last article has him, I'd snatch him up. I might take him a lot earlier.

I want to feel like we had a terrible draft..

Because I usually think we had a great draft, and it ends up being terrible.. So...

When I think we've had a good draft, it turns out to be a terrible draft.

When I think that we've had an awful draft .... it turns out to be a terrible draft

I don't know which to hope for. Maybe I'll try just not giving a darn? *Sigh* That'll never work.

Any player at #2 will do, just not a QB.

Been seeing more and more that Miles Jack's knee is very suspect. So it's either we love the QB we take or move down.

I'm scratching Jack off my list if I am a GM. A simple meniscus tear should take 6 weeks recovery. Give another couple of weeks to build his strength up because he is much stronger than the average person.

Jack injured that knee in what September? October? That is around 6 months. I don't like it at all.

My bet is that teams that want Jack to fall are putting out false information.

If they are not, and his knee is actually still messed up, I don't want to pick him in the top ten.

The Jack/Goff train is losing steam!

I think it was just going too hard and too fast.