DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Tailgate Forum Josh Gordon is ready for your drug tests.

My friend summed up Josh Gordon in the most awesome of fashions:

Josh is like that piping hot cup of hot chocolate. You know it's good tasting, you want it right now - but you know if you were to grab that cup and take a sip, you're going to get burned. Trade your hot chocolate for a cold can of beer instead, while its still warm.

Why can't we just wait til it cools off a bit?

Because then it's a cold cup of hot chocolate (aka suspended permanently) and Noone has time or the want for a cold cup of chocolate lol.

Haha true that.

That what I was thinking too.

I think he'll play and be very good this year (not great or amazing, but very good). This is his last chance.

And I don't think it'll burn us at all. We have nothing to lose but using a roster spot on him as the 6th WR to start. If he catches 100+ or tests positive again, he barely costs us anything.

We still hold all the leverage.

The opportunity to acquire a very high round draft pick is also something that's up in the air to lose, not just a roster spot.

The scenarios are as follows:

We keep him, he pulls his head outta his arse and we have a monster threat to throw to.

We keep him, he messes up again, he's banned for good and end of story. We get nothing but another kick in the nuts and more headlines making fun of us.

We trade him and acquire a nice pick(s), and put all the risk into someone else's pocket.

Who would give us a 'nice' pick(s) for Gordon right now? The concerns/risk are the same for every team, not just with the Browns.

It's easy, at least for me.... Keep him. He costs nothing. Low risk, high reward.

I agree. We have already paid the toll. Might as well find out if it is a smooth ride moving forward.

Factoring the amount of money paid to #2 depth chart material like Marvin Jones and Sanu, I'd think someone would be open and give us something on the lavish side for more of a #1 WR product/material.

I'm not sure either route we take will initially be wrong, only time will tell.

You're trying to compare him to people that aren't one toke away from never playing football again.

Not to mention, Josh Gordon isn't even technically in the league anymore. If he could be traded, I don't see anyone offering more than a 6th for him.

Everyone wants to label Josh a low risk, high reward type ordeal. I'm sure a contender or a team that isn't looking/needing to fill a million holes like our team, would be more than comfortable in chatting about possibly acquiring him and taking that risk involved.

We're talking about a kid with insane upside, a body fitted for a physical freak and a year with what - three different scrub QBs throwing to him and he still beast moded it.

I think it'd be easy to find a team wanting Josh and for more than a 6th rounder lol. But, JMO. JMO again, if we could get a 6th rounder, it's better than nothing IMO.

Even assuming he gets reinstated, I still don't think a team would give up much for JG. Maybe a conditional late round pick in the 2017 draft-- probably contingent on being on the active roster and playing a certain amount of games this coming season, or something of the sort.

I believe my response was to someone suggesting "high pick or picks".

I'm not saying nobody would offer us anything.

No, I heard your response, and I think that a few of us, including me because I just drop faith in a person/kid and start forgetting about things - forgot this kid lead the league in yards with:

Multiple scrub and I do mean, scrub QBs
Having missed two games for being a moron

You got these ego fools like Jerry Jones that think he has a "support system" that can house these kids. You have teams that have a base and then some, who can afford to cough up a 2nd or 3rd rounder.

Teams know it's do or die, and somehow Josh managing to stay clean the full year could give hope that's "do" and not the latter. I think it's a real possibility to get something for him. Plug and play threat, if he can manage to play.

He is not really a plug and play threat. He was dominant three seasons ago. He missed all of last year. He also missed many games the year before that and was ineffective and looked disinterested in the games he did play.

Nobody knows how he will bounce back and I don't think any general manager wants to be known as the guy who throws away picks on troubled underachievers. It would almost be akin to the Browns trading a decent pick for Justin Blackmon. I'm sure we all intuitively know it would be silly to do that. In fairness, Blackmon's situation is probably worse than Gordon's but I don't think it is that much worse.

edit: Actually, reading up on Justin Blackmon a bit, I can say that Blackmon's situation actually is quite a bit worse. I don't think that changes my main point too much, that NFL GM's would be extremely leery of trading for Gordon, if they would even be interested at all.

Fair post, thank you. The one year he had Hoyer launching with multiple people around him and from what Donte said, he looks lean and via his Twitter - he's been working out. I don't think you forget how to catch a ball.

" I don't think any general manager wants to be known as the guy who throws away picks on troubled underachievers"

No most definitely not, but the vice versa would be the GM who got a game changer turning his life around for second or third round pick. I don't think he'll be traded, but I'd take literally anything for the moron.

I still think Gordon is a punk!

We should call Indy just to make sure..

I was going to make some comment about the three teams we might be able to rip off but Jerry Jones has ceded some of the power to his son, Al Davis is dead, and we already fleeced the Colts once, but I thought it was a bit crass (oh well, too late now).

As leery as I am of trusting Gordon one iota, it would be interesting to see the RG3/Josh Gordon team put back together.

Just a curiosity question but do the people who were advocating trading him or even cutting him if reinstated, are your views any different now with signing RGIII and those two having been teammates at Baylor?

I'm still under the mindset trade Josh the very millisecond it's possible, you?

Always favored keeping him (since he began to take care of his side of things, that is), still do.

Josh fails again
Josh Gordon has done it again.

Mike Garafolo of FOX Sports broke the news Monday evening that the Cleveland Browns wide receiver failed another drug test last month. Gordon's history of failed test has been filled with technicalities, and this latest one is no different:

Gordon's sample, which was collected in early March, tested positive for marijuana and dilute, according to a source informed of the results of the test. The source added that both the "A" and "B" samples collected were positive for marijuana and dilute. Though the level of marijuana was below the 35 nanograms per milliliter required for a positive test, the diluted sample is considered a positive test.

The failed test is believed to be the reason why the NFL has not re-instated Gordon yet. Garafolo adds that the "latest development doesn't necessarily mean Josh Gordon will remain suspended," but this obviously isn't good.

Speechless

I am angry!! I held onto hope for the kid. I can't believe that I put so much energy into hoping he would be back to help this team. Just another in a long list of disappointments in Cleveland sports. Maybe Joe Charboneau will be able to contribute to the Tribe lineup....

Is there any point in this process we can get a compensatory pick for this moron?

I swear this franchise has been cursed since before the move to Baltimore. Even if every single person in charge had the best of intentions, it was almost a foregone conclusion that everything was doomed to fail... I seriously hate this team....

He's a bozo.

It all starts at the top. We've had Junior and the Criminal. No franchise could succeed with either one of them. It amazes me to think that we could have gotten worse after Junior, but with Haslam we are actually much worse off.

It's over, it's all over. He is completely DONE. Oh my god, cut his ass now!

I literally clicked on this thread expecting to see that he'd been reinstated…(stares into the distance in exasperation)

The NFL needs to have a sympathy rule for the Browns these days, just when you think it can't get any worse, it does.

If the NFL were going to have sympathy on us they'd have made Art Modell give up the team when he decided to fire Paul Brown.

The NFL's first job is to protect its owners....

Much to the chagrin of us fans.

This is why I stayed negative with Josh. This is why I opposed everyone disagreeing with me when I preached trading instead of granting yet ANOTHER chance to display why he can't be trusted and why he's just about as stupid as literally could ever be imaginable.

Seems we won't even get a chance to shop him. Cut him now, issue another statement like ya did JF and let's put these jokes outta sight, outta mind.

They're nothing but jokes.

That was an April Fool's Day article where you read that quote.

Oddly, however, it came to be true.