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If anything, I believe this trade is the worse thing that could happen if the Browns want to trade down out of the pick.
Yes, it's possible that a draft day trade could be made IF the Rams choose a QB other teams didn't see as their target QB and want the one remaining. There's so much smoke and mirrors surrounding the information being disseminated this time of year that all of it has to be taken with a grain of salt from now until draft time.
When and if we find that the Rams are in contract talks with either Goff or Wentz, no one can say with any certainty who their target is. What I do believe this trade up points out is that despite many posters insistence to the contrary, there are and were teams that felt one of these QB's was well worth the #1 pick in the draft. As the Titans pointed out, the Rams weren't the only team they were in trade talks with.
Despite the differences in opinions on this board, I don't believe there are two QB's that are worthy of such consideration. I believe that NFL FO's are much more on the same page on who that QB is than our board members.
We are no longer in the cat birds seat here. Unless some team is willing to pay a kings ransom for the second best QB in this draft, our odds of trading down is now greatly diminished. That hasn't happened since the RG3 draft and it serves as a shining example involved in the folly of such a decision.
I believe we are stuck at #2 without any pick in this draft really being worthy of the selection. no QB in this draft is worth even a top ten pick imo...but at #2 I would be with Tunsil, Bosa, Jack, Ramsey (my fav), Buckner or even that WR fella what's his name?? Treadwell. I would really like to stop trading back and for once go BPA
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Furthermore, reports indicate Goff is the Browns target, not Wentz.
Smoke screen.....we wanted Wentz but feared that another team would jump them so they let it be released that they wanted Goff. Didn't work.
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Furthermore, reports indicate Goff is the Browns target, not Wentz.
Smoke screen.....we wanted Wentz but feared that another team would jump them so they let it be released that they wanted Goff. Didn't work. debatable...subjective
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Am I the only one that pronounces hyperbole "Hyper-bowl" instead of "hy-per-bo-le"?
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I am all for Tunsil or Ramsey at this point...leaning more toward Tunsil at this moment.
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Maybe other teams don't care what we want and made trades to better themselves regardless.
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that is a distinct possibility.
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Rams lean Jared Goff today, but one reason they made trade now was to get two weeks to debate top 2 QBs because "both are going to be good." The Rams are meeting somewhere near me. I should go there and try to convince them Wentz is the right pick to make.
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At DT, context and meaning are a scarecrow kicking at moving goalposts.
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Rams lean Jared Goff today, but one reason they made trade now was to get two weeks to debate top 2 QBs because "both are going to be good." The Rams are meeting somewhere near me. I should go there and try to convince them Wentz is the right pick to make. I just don't see how the Rams could make the deal just "leaning" to a player. You make that trade KNOWING exactly who you want.
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Rams lean Jared Goff today, but one reason they made trade now was to get two weeks to debate top 2 QBs because "both are going to be good." The Rams are meeting somewhere near me. I should go there and try to convince them Wentz is the right pick to make. I just don't see how the Rams could make the deal just "leaning" to a player. You make that trade KNOWING exactly who you want. They definitely know. They just don't want people to know who it is. We will know within the next couple days, Fisher has too many buddies in the media for this not to leak.
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Yeah, I mean do they really think they're fooling us after coughing up the bounty they did NOT knowing who they wanted to pull the trigger on?
Doesn't take the sharpest knife in the drawer to cut through that bs.
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Every day until the draft they will be leaning a different way..
Don't be surprised if a report leaks they are considering a Non QB still..
Because that's what the NFL wants leading up to the draft.
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Rams lean Jared Goff today, but one reason they made trade now was to get two weeks to debate top 2 QBs because "both are going to be good." The Rams are meeting somewhere near me. I should go there and try to convince them Wentz is the right pick to make. Zero chance they give up that many picks without knowing exactly who they are going to draft.
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Yeah, I mean do they really think they're fooling us after coughing up the bounty they did NOT knowing who they wanted to pull the trigger on?
Doesn't take the sharpest knife in the drawer to cut through that bs. they are really, really, really, really, dumb. I think they are dumb, but not really, really, really, really, dumb.
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Every day until the draft they will be leaning a different way..
Don't be surprised if a report leaks they are considering a Non QB still..
Because that's what the NFL wants leading up to the draft. There is simply no way that they made this deal for anybody other than a QB...
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Yeah, I mean do they really think they're fooling us after coughing up the bounty they did NOT knowing who they wanted to pull the trigger on?
Doesn't take the sharpest knife in the drawer to cut through that bs. they are really, really, really, really, dumb. I think they are dumb, but not really, really, really, really, dumb. 
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I am all for Tunsil or Ramsey at this point... leaning more toward Tunsil at this moment. If it's not a QB, then Tunsil, Ramsey, or trade down in that order...
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I am all for Tunsil or Ramsey at this point... leaning more toward Tunsil at this moment. If it's not a QB, then Tunsil, Ramsey, or trade down in that order... If it's not a QB, then the Rams should have used their two first round picks that they just traded to sign Von Miller.
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I am all for Tunsil or Ramsey at this point... leaning more toward Tunsil at this moment. If it's not a QB, then Tunsil, Ramsey, or trade down in that order... I don't think either Goff or Wentz is a #2 pick...so for me it's Tunsil, Ramsey, jack in that order...don't think we should trade down even one spot..at some point we have to go BPA
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I am all for Tunsil or Ramsey at this point... leaning more toward Tunsil at this moment. If it's not a QB, then Tunsil, Ramsey, or trade down in that order... I don't think either Goff or Wentz is a #2 pick...so for me it's Tunsil, Ramsey, jack in that order...don't think we should trade down even one spot..at some point we have to go BPA We can still select the best player available if we trade down. Crazy that one trade could blow up a team's plan so much or not blow up the plan whatsoever.
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I am all for Tunsil or Ramsey at this point... leaning more toward Tunsil at this moment. If it's not a QB, then Tunsil, Ramsey, or trade down in that order... I don't think either Goff or Wentz is a #2 pick...so for me it's Tunsil, Ramsey, jack in that order...don't think we should trade down even one spot..at some point we have to go BPA We can still select the best player available if we trade down. Crazy that one trade could blow up a team's plan so much or not blow up the plan whatsoever. I hear ya, but BPA at 7,10,15 or 2...I think I would rather have the best talent at 2...
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I am all for Tunsil or Ramsey at this point... leaning more toward Tunsil at this moment. If it's not a QB, then Tunsil, Ramsey, or trade down in that order... I don't think either Goff or Wentz is a #2 pick...so for me it's Tunsil, Ramsey, jack in that order...don't think we should trade down even one spot..at some point we have to go BPA We can still select the best player available if we trade down. Crazy that one trade could blow up a team's plan so much or not blow up the plan whatsoever. I hear ya, but BPA at 7,10,15 or 2...I think I would rather have the best talent at 2... What if it was best player available at pick seven and a first round pick next year?
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idk for me I am tired of going backward I would much rather get high end talent when have the chance and I think Tunsil or Ramsey would be great for the team...and if the team we trade with to get the 1st rounder next year and they blow up and hit the playoffs...then that 1st round pick doesn't hold the value our 2nd over does this year even with the 7th pick
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idk for me I am tired of going backward I would much rather get high end talent when have the chance and I think Tunsil or Ramsey would be great for the team...and if the team we trade with to get the 1st rounder next year and they blow up and hit the playoffs...then that 1st round pick doesn't hold the value our 2nd over does this year even with the 7th pick High end talent is found throughout the first round, not just the top few picks. Pick the correct players and you don't have to worry about where they are picked. Who you rather have Odell Beckham, Derek Carr, and whoever is better than Cam Erving or just Odell Beckham and Derek Carr.
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I'm still all for trading out to 7 or 8. It's the perfect spot. Maximizing draft value while still getting a major defensive talent. With qbs going 1 and 2 SD likely goes Ramsey. Perfect fit. Between the Cowboys, jags and ravens 3 of bosa, tunsil, Jack, buckner and hargreaves leaving at least 1 for us. Even more choices if elliot or Stanley is overdrafted. I'll take buckner and an extra 2nd and then some please.
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They are only one pick above us and therefore it could only be bad for us in one way. If the Rams take the QB that we had our heart set on. What would have been bad for the Browns in more than one way is if this came out of nowhere when the Brown's suddenly were on the clock. Then they would not have much time to deal with it. Now they suddenly have more leverage because they have 2 weeks to auction the pick off if they want or 2 weeks to go the scouting reports of the player they want to take at #2.
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I'm still all for trading out to 7 or 8. It's the perfect spot. Maximizing draft value while still getting a major defensive talent. With qbs going 1 and 2 SD likely goes Ramsey. Perfect fit. Between the Cowboys, jags and ravens 3 of bosa, tunsil, Jack, buckner and hargreaves leaving at least 1 for us. Even more choices if elliot or Stanley is overdrafted. I'll take buckner and an extra 2nd and then some please. I agree with much of your scenario except for the Chargers passing on Tunsil if he is there at #3. They should be throwing a party right now.
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Had we traded up with the Titans you guys would have ripped our FO, yet because we didn't now our FO is worthless ... WOW
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Had we traded up with the Titans you guys would have ripped our FO, yet because we didn't now our FO is worthless ... WOW Maybe I am mistaken, but I don't think I've seen anyone rip our front office for not making this trade.
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It would have happened, you know as well as I do that no matter what this team does it is wrong according to certain posters ...
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Had we traded up with the Titans you guys would have ripped our FO, yet because we didn't now our FO is worthless ... WOW Maybe I am mistaken, but I don't think I've seen anyone rip our front office for not making this trade. No, there were actually a couple people doing that.
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Had we traded up with the Titans you guys would have ripped our FO, yet because we didn't now our FO is worthless ... WOW Maybe I am mistaken, but I don't think I've seen anyone rip our front office for not making this trade. LOL, you forgot about mac.
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Besides a lot on here think they traded up for Wentz, no one really knows, and if we stay @ 2 to pick @ QB I hope Wentz goes first, I would take Goff over Wentz everyday of the week ... JMHO
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Had we traded up with the Titans you guys would have ripped our FO, yet because we didn't now our FO is worthless ... WOW Maybe I am mistaken, but I don't think I've seen anyone rip our front office for not making this trade. Re: cont...The Browns Front Office...not ready for prime time... [Re: mac] Damanshot Offline Legend Registered: 09/11/06 Posts: 32934 Loc: Aurora, Ohio Originally Posted By: mac So how do you like the Browns front office now...the Rams made a trade with the Titans for the #1 pick...and the Browns lose their shot at the best QB on the board. I'm sure analytics told the Browns that the chances of another team moving to #1 were 7 million to 1. Wait, what kind of crazy thinking is that? Seriously Mac. How did the Browns become the bad guy because the Titans Fleeced the Rams? Is there a QB worth the #1 pick? I don't think so. Maybe the Rams do, But I can't find many folks thinking that. What's it got to do with the Browns? Man you will take any situation and turn it into a Hate comment about the Browns FO. wow. different thread but yup there ya go
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Listened to moving the chains today and Pat Kirwin had a very interesting conversation with Adam Schefter. If you can listen to it on the internet, it ran from round 5:00 to 5:20.
For anyone interested in what I can remember:
Schefter had several texts from people who would bet the Rams traded up for Goff. Including one source that he has a lot of faith in
Kirwin says the source he has faith in is telling him Wentz.
He also notes that as far back as two weeks ago he heard that the Browns weren't interested in taking a QB at #2
Kirwin disagreed and thinks the Browns were/are planning on taking a qb.
Schefter got a text while on air saying - don't be surprised if the Browns trade down 3 or 4 times.
There were a couple other things but I am going by memory and don't want to post something that I am not >90% certain that I am remembering accurately
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Schefter got a text while on air saying - don't be surprised if the Browns trade down 3 or 4 times. Eric! Please put that phone down or I'll take it away...
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I wouldn't be surprised by that. At this point there are so many weaknesses on this team, I believe they think they can build it with bodies, not true playmakers which we've lacked since the team returned since 1999.
Lots of bodies without drafting any highly ranked playmakers sounds like a plan, right?
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What are you saying, Pit? That we should stand pat at #2?
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