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I can't seriously believe that people are telling me what the hell my intent was when I said "let them walk."

Have I freaking EVER been timid about expressing my viewpoints? Jesus guys............I KNOW what the hell I meant when I said it.

I meant that those guys are freaking gone!!! No one knows exactly why. Some keep saying over and over and over and over and over and over that they didn't want to play here. So what? What does that prove? Hell, it's actually a worse indictment about where the Browns are heading.

All I know is one thing. They are gone.

And don't any of you presume to act like you know my intent more than I do. Worry about your own self....it's a full time job!

Since I am the one who uses "let them walk," and many others have told ME what I meant by it.........I thought it was time to set the record straight.

LOL..........can I play? Let me channel my inner Da Mans Hot....Ewwww.....scary. Okay, I'll just use your sentence...

there [no capital T???] is just no rationalizing with some folks. The Browns are always right even though they constantly losing more games than they win and blowing things up over and over again. [wow, innovative grammar.]

Can you send that to eotab and ddub? They both insist that Hue has control. What was the wording? Hue is the admiral and the rest are his soldiers..........something like that.

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I had a very good response written for the folks who started the thread attempting to divide everyone into two groups...the positive posters and the negative posters.

The thread got deleted while I was typing my response...not wanting to waste a post that I made for that thread...I posted it here.

I do understand that some prefer "fairtail-rah-rah" posts rather than "reality"...for the record, I'm not negative, I'm realistic.

j/c

So let me get this straight. Every word our former players said before the FA period was BS and everything they've said since moving on is Gospel?

Sounds like people accept the things they want to hear and disregard everything they don't want to hear.

And then some have the nerve to question the sanity of people who disagree?

Wow!

j/c

So let me get this straight. Every word our former players said before the FA period was BS and everything they've said since moving on is Gospel?

Sounds like people accept the things they want to hear and disregard everything they don't want to hear.

And then some have the nerve to question the sanity of people who disagree?

Wow!

REALITY? That's kinda funny. Reality is, according to you, only what you believe. Fairytale is whatever you don't believe.

Tell me again please how that's reality. Are you the only person that is right?

I will feel a lot better if the front office were able to trade that overall #2 pick and gather a few more draft picks this year and next. Sort of like they did with the Falcons when they traded up to get Julio, except this time hopefully they will have some players drafted with those picks remaining on the roster 5 years later.

... However, if they see the guy left at #2 as some sort of consolation prize, I would hope they pass on him.

Now do I hope that guy is there? Yes I do. However, if they see the guy left at #2 as some sort of consolation prize, I would hope they pass on him.

What everyone should have realized, especially those who questioned the validity of anaylitics and football, is that this was going to take time. It was never going to be ready in time for this years draft. Everyone should know that.

DePodesta has the title of Chief Strategy Officer. To start at the beginning is to start at the top. At the top, the owner is a business man but based on a very different type of business. The strategies and policies and processes were probably based on what the owner knew worked best for him in his other business. "We always do it like this, it's how I want it."

But this is football. It's not a gas station. There's so much more to it than marketing to bring in customers. More than managing executives who are regional representatives and sales people. So much more to it than wheeling and dealing for the price of gas. Much more to it than making sure the employees at the convenience store function like a well oiled machine.

Very likely Depo's first focus was to question all the policies the Browns have been operating under organization-wide. How they do business. How everyone works together. How the decision making process is set up. Even who does what.

He would need to develop new strategies and policies regarding how they do business in the world of a sports franshise. He'd need to get the whole organization working together on a single goal--winning. Winning is the business of football.

Starting at the top he would develop processes to bring together all the executive positions/departments and get them aligned so they can work together seamlessly.

He could then move to the football side doing the same. There you find Sashi, Berry, the scouts and the head coach. Depo's job would be to develop strategies, policy and procedures that would get them aligned so they can work together seamlessly. He would set parameters, lanes of responsibility with processes in place that would keep people in their lane.

Once the organization as a whole is straightened out his final challenge would be to begin applying analytics to football. We all know how impossibly hard that must be. The only thing he has to go on, his experience, is from the baseball world. He needs to rightfully discern the difference in dealing with football and then develop strategies for implementing it.

When you consider all he had on his plate it shouldn't be surprising that he couldn't get it all done and foolproof in such a short amount of time.

Right now it is where it is. Just like the football team, it could take 2-3 years to fully incorporate analytics into the football side.

So to say he doesn't know what he's doing evidenced by his asking a football guru for help is to state the obvious. Two or three years from now he'll not need to pick the brain of a guru. He'll have already done that.

What this should show is how far Depo is into this. I assume he has the business part/strategies of the organization in place. That part is not a lot different than baseball and he came in with that experience.

Now he needs to apply himself to football players. Obviously he's in the beginning stages of that. It's going to be time consuming. Not an overnight thing.

You can't answer a question there is no answer to. If you don't see a projected franchise QB at #2, you certainly don't draft a QB for the sake of drafting one and make a huge mistake.

Now I'm not saying we don't draft a QB at #2. I'm saying this FO better be sold on the QB they draft if they take one at #2. Their careers and future with the Browns will depend on it. Their future resume' in the league will depend on it.

The #2 pick in the NFL isn't a place for high risk gambles and experiments. It's a place where you address a problem with a solution. If the "leftover" was their guy all along, then by all means draft him. If he's rated lower than their top guy, it's an option you weigh. But you don't simply take a huge leap of faith without a great deal of confidence with your choice at the #2 pick in the draft.

You can't answer a question there is no answer to. If you don't see a projected franchise QB at #2, you certainly don't draft a QB for the sake of drafting one and make a huge mistake.

This isn't rocket science.

Line up your trade partners now.

You need to know 2 things from them.

Their best offer on the #2 pick if the Rams pick Wentz.
Their best offer on the #2 pick if the Rams pick Goff.

The Rams did us a favor by not waiting till draft day to make that trade.

We know that the Rams are picking a QB because they gave up the farm for the choice.

We just have to figure out whether we want to pick at that spot or take a trade offer.

It doesn't take a big brain to figure out that we are not over a barrel.

You may not go home with the prom queen, but her cute, younger sister isn't actually a bad deal either... just sayi

I just find it funny how the common definition for insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Yet those who ascribe to that very thing wish to discuss the mental health of those who don't.

You may not go home with the prom queen, but her cute, younger sister isn't actually a bad deal either... just sayin

The Cowboys pick 4th in the draft and if they did workout Goff, it should tell the Browns front office that there may not be as much difference between these two QBs as some think.

This front office does need to weigh the options and take advantage of the position they find themselves in now.[/color]

I heard that the Cowboys worked out Goff recently, which kind of supports the idea of the sister being just as cute as older sis.

The Cowboys pick 4th in the draft and if they did workout Goff, it should tell the Browns front office that there may not be as much difference between these two QBs as some think.

The Browns front office has to consider what next years draft looks like as far as franchise type QBs. The Browns might not even be in a position to pick this high in the draft for a long time to come. The 2016 draft might be this front offices best chance to land a the best or second best QB in this draft.

This front office does need to weigh the options and take advantage of the position they find themselves in now.