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great athlete with bad hands. Mayle 2.0

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great athlete with bad hands. Mayle 2.0


They said on NFLN that he might switch to corner.

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Prediction:

Ricardo Louis is not on the roster to start the season.

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blah not a fan. coulda had him later


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Jeudy is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Tillman is flanked out wide to the right. Judkins and Ford are split in the backfield as Flacco takes the snap ... Here we go."
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What a strange pick.

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I feel like this is a getting cute/outsmarting people pick.

Maybe our guys know something else...but it just seems like a typical Browns "no one will see this coming" pick.


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Love this pick.had him in my mock.a little later, but I like it. He killed at Auburn.


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Originally Posted By: The Big G
great athlete with bad hands. Mayle 2.0


That's pretty much the general viewpoint I've heard/read about so far.


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Watching Pharoh Cooper get drafted right after Louis hurts a little.

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Here's how I know him

http://youtu.be/XkpDz8YyVD8

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would rather have had Cooper, Burbridge, or a RB


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Jeudy is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Tillman is flanked out wide to the right. Judkins and Ford are split in the backfield as Flacco takes the snap ... Here we go."
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I know nothing about him, other than some feel that he will be a CB convert.


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I wouldnt even bother to continue working him at receiver. Move him to free safety and be done with it. His long frame, bad hands and immediate burst screams FS for me.

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Originally Posted By: YTownBrownsFan
I know nothing about him, other than some feel that he will be a CB convert.


If you have bad hands but are fast, it's easier to knock them down then to hold on to them.


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I don't know anything about this kid except he's fast.

Adding speed to speed, I like the thought process and measurables profile; I'm unfamiliar with his tape though...

Name: Ricardo Louis
College: Auburn Number: 5
Height: 6-2 Weight: 215
Position: WR Pos2: KR

Combine Invite: Yes
Height: 6016
Weight: 215
40 Yrd Dash: 4.43
20 Yrd Dash: 2.61
10 Yrd Dash: 1.57 225 Lb. Bench Reps: 18
Vertical Jump: 38
Broad Jump: 11'00"
20 Yrd Shuttle:
3-Cone Drill:
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Can't speak to the accuracy but here is nfl.com/Lance Zeirlin

Analysis

Strengths Thickly built wide out with a frame comparable to a running back. Handled substantial workload increase with dismissal of Duke Williams. Former "catch­-and­-run" receiver who proved effective with more complex routes. Gets open downfield with crisp routes and acceleration out of his breaks. Uses leverage, head fakes and subtle directional change to separate. Makes first tackler miss and will finish his run with some pop. Ran sweeps in Auburn rush attack and showed good field vision as runner. Aware and effective with footwork near sideline. Second gear is present against cornerbacks on skinny posts.

Weaknesses Issues with focus drops and hauling in the tough, downfield catch with greater consistency. Gives away receptions by waiting rather than working back to throws allowing defenders to close and defend. Scheme created several openings in coverage he was able to exploit. Has route "tell" tied to stride length off the line. Stride much different off snap for deeper routes. On underneath routes, tries to push cornerbacks with arm churn over early acceleration.

Sources Tell Us "Don't see anything draftable about him. I don't like his routes and I don't like his hands. You like him better than me, I guess." -- NFC southeastern area scout

Bottom Line This past season was Louis' first opportunity to be more than just a "run after catch" option and he showed potential as a downfield option. Louis has good size and could help himself with a good 40 time at the combine, but he's still raw and his hands aren't consistent enough. It may take a little while, but I see enough upside in Louis to consider him a future NFL backup with some "big slot" potential.

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The highlight vid (for what it is) shows the dude looks like a play maker. There are a few acrobatic catches in there. Can't attest to the drops, however.


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Ugh, Mayle pt 2.


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I liked Mayle better.

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Originally Posted By: SunDawg
The highlight vid (for what it is) shows the dude looks like a play maker. There are a few acrobatic catches in there. Can't attest to the drops, however.



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So Tony Lippet conversion player for us in round 4...When there's alot more better choices out there...we never make any sense.

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This ONLY makes sense if we're moving him to DB. Even then - why take a total project who nobody else is going to draft at WR as a complete flyer facing a position change....in the 4th round?

Why?

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Originally Posted By: TI84_Plus
I feel like this is a getting cute/outsmarting people pick.

Maybe our guys know something else...but it just seems like a typical Browns "no one will see this coming" pick.


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"I'm probably one of the better receivers in this draft. I'm going to show you why." - Ricardo Louis


https://twitter.com/RuiterWrongFAN/status/726461504283779072

I believe this was in response to someone wondering if he should play DB.


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Hayden Grove ‏ @ H_Grove now 12 seconds ago
Ricardo Louis on Georgia catch: "That game was just a blessing for me. Being able to be part of a magical season like that kind of help me."

Hayden Grove ‏ @ H_Grove now 11 seconds ago
Ricardo Louis on Browns: "I was a little shocked because I had no previous contact with them." # Browns

Hayden Grove ‏ @ H_Grove now 9 seconds ago
Louis: "I was in a scheme at Auburn where it wasn't required for me to run many diverse routes. I wanted to prove that I can run routes."

Nate Ulrich ‏ @ NateUlrichABJ now 12 seconds ago
WR Ricardo Louis said # Falcons are only team that talked to him about possibly switching to CB

Scott Petrak ct ‏ @ ScottPetrak 10s 10 seconds ago
# Browns WR Ricardo Louis said Falcons were only team that talked to him about possible move to defense. Louis didn't like the idea.

Hayden Grove ‏ @ H_Grove 20s 20 seconds ago
Louis on his old teammate and Browns third rounder OT Shon Coleman: "Me and Shon have a good relationship. We worked out together." # Browns

Steve Doerschuk ‏ @ sdoerschukREP now 14 seconds ago
Ricardo Louis: "I'm probably one of the better receivers in this draft. I'm going to show you why."


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We're tanking without tanking. Playing for 3 years down the road apparently. Might not be the worst idea if Jimmy can sit tight.


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"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Jeudy is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Tillman is flanked out wide to the right. Judkins and Ford are split in the backfield as Flacco takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Originally Posted By: GraffZ06
This ONLY makes sense if we're moving him to DB. Even then - why take a total project who nobody else is going to draft at WR as a complete flyer facing a position change....in the 4th round?

Why?

Because Browns.



The Browns are banking on the ability of this coaching staff to develop the raw talent.

Develop athletes, what a concept!

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Ricardo Louis on Browns: "I was a little shocked because I had no previous contact with them." # Browns


I mean hey, not scouting a guy and having no contact with a player then pulling his name out of a hat on draft day worked pretty well for us with Justin Gilbert. What's to say it won't work out just as well this time? We "tricked" EVERYBODY. What's not to love?


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not scouting a guy


No contact with the guy is very different than not scouting the guy.


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Hayden Grove ‏ @ H_Grove now 11 seconds ago
Ricardo Louis on Browns: "I was a little shocked because I had no previous contact with them." # Browns


I mean hey, not scouting a guy and having no contact with a player then pulling his name out of a hat on draft day worked pretty well for us with Justin Gilbert. What's to say it won't work out just as well this time? We "tricked" EVERYBODY. What's not to love?


Not scouting?

Also, not looking into the 8th pick and not looking into the 114th pick are a little different.

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The guy cant catch and last time i checked that is a requirement for receivers in the NFL. Although the ones we draft never seem to be able to do that. Greg Little, Travis Wilson, Edwards, Quincy Morgan, now Louis and Coleman.

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Well, I was referring to Gilbert, who we DIDN'T scout - and drawing the parallel to this pick.

But - we've got lawyers and accountants and data analysts - we don't need scouts anyway. Waste of time and resources. We got this.

Because Browns.


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Originally Posted By: GraffZ06
Well, I was referring to Gilbert, who we DIDN'T scout - and drawing the parallel to this pick.

But - we've got lawyers and accountants and data analysts - we don't need scouts anyway. Waste of time and resources. We got this.

Because Browns.


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We scouted Gilbert, but never met with him. There's a major difference lol

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Lewis was drafted as a potential play maker. You have a physical player with 4.43 speed. He is a raw receiver coming out of an offense that is run heavy. Hands must improve. He ran end around and reverses fairly often for Auburn. How is this stat for a WR. 580 career yards rushing.

He gets open down the field and has YAC ability.


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Can't the Browns only meet with 30 prospects before the draft? Outside of combine/Proday/NFL college bowls.

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Originally Posted By: CHSDawg
Can't the Browns only meet with 30 prospects before the draft? Outside of combine/Proday/NFL college bowls.


Only 30 prospects can visit the facility. I think they can workout on their campus as much as they want.

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