I'm with you king. I honestly don't think I could stomach voting for either of them. I'm more than likely going third, fourth or fifth party.
Its really depressing and frustrating. Just a feeling of hoplessness, and helplessness. It makes me understand why someone like Trump is able to con people into falling into goose step. Then I can see how Hilary and The Dems can get votes on being " not the Donald"
You may be in the drivers seat but God is holding the map. #GMSTRONG
I don't either, but that's what it boils down to unfortunately.
I can't just stay home, either. My belief is that if you don't excercise your right to vote, which honestly is the most important right, then you have no room to complain about politics.
That's kind of how I view everything in life. If you're not being active in whatever it is you're for or against, then don't open your mouth.
Taking that into account, as I said on the board, and 40 should be able to at least back me up on it, I wasn't gonna vote for Hilary after those Panama leaks came out.
I was dead set on voting for Bernie if he made it out. That doesn't look to be the case, however.
So now it's either Clinton or trump, right?
Do you remember in previous post what I said about it? Hilary isn't racist, sexist, or xenophobic.
I'm a social issue guy, so those things are huge topics for me.
And I can't vote for a candidate who is gonna divide us even more. Anybody who thinks trump isn't gonna further divide this nation is fooling themselves.
Hilary is a scumbag, liar, bought by banks, etc.
Which means she's the status quo. Voting anti-establiment only works if the guy running against it is a good candidate.
Trump is not. I can't stand the thought of him potentially tweeting out insults to world leaders.
I can't stand his comments on women. It's just disgusting.
I do not like how he carries himself. On Wall Street, it's whatever, as I'm not affected by his real estate stuff.
But him as president? Nah man.
And I dunno if you can understand this or not, but as a combat vet, it makes me sick to my stomach when he talks about how our military is weak and needs to be rebuild. As if to say we aren't good. That's straight up disrespect, and if I can make a difference, I won't be having none of that.
We are the best damn military force on the planet. No other nation comes close. For republicans to disrespect us like that by saying we're weak and need to be rebuild is a slap in the face.
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“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
I am from a military family, as a matter of fact I was born on a Naval base
But what you said about his comments about rebuilding the military is not a way I ever would have thought about it. Thats an interesting perspective, but what you are saying makes sense.
But speaking of Hilary and racism. What is your view on the comments she made about predators? I dont want to misquote her here, but didnt she make a comment about black men being super predators or something like that???
You may be in the drivers seat but God is holding the map. #GMSTRONG
But speaking of Hilary and racism. What is your view on the comments she made about predators? I dont want to misquote her here, but didnt she make a comment about black men being super predators or something like that???
And 'CP time', and 'off the reservation', and the change in accent when talking to black churches, etc.
But I want to touch on the whole cp time thing. The standard is the standard, and I can't possibly be upset for the cp time when me and my boys literally made that same joke an hour ago in the gym.
Black people time. Who hasn't said that before. It's funny. Just like the whole hot sauce and mayonnaise stuff. It's funny.
As far as trump goes, I'm not liking the rhetoric about Mexicans.
I've made it clear that immigration is the one topic I side with republicans on...but come on. The crap that comes out of his mouth isn't helping the situation whatsoever.
Now, with the rioting and protesting against trump. Just like how I say the people that support trump says less about him and more about his supporters? It works the same way with those anti-trump people. Crap is disgusting IMO.
However, am I the only one not willing to vote for a guy that manages to bring out the worst of people on BOTH sides?
As much as I dislike Cruz, you don't see that happening at his rallies.
A guy who manages to bring out the worst in people isn't a good thing. No matter how someone tries to spin it.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
But I want to touch on the whole cp time thing. The standard is the standard, and I can't possibly be upset for the cp time when me and my boys literally made that same joke an hour ago in the gym.
Black people time. Who hasn't said that before.
Me.
Not only had I never heard the term in my life before she said it, I had to look up what it meant.
Seems odd that you're okay with that stereotype.
Regardless, that should be the least of the worries about Hillary.
But I want to touch on the whole cp time thing. The standard is the standard, and I can't possibly be upset for the cp time when me and my boys literally made that same joke an hour ago in the gym.
Black people time. Who hasn't said that before. It's funny. Just like the whole hot sauce and mayonnaise stuff. It's funny.
As far as trump goes, I'm not liking the rhetoric about Mexicans.
I've made it clear that immigration is the one topic I side with republicans on...but come on. The crap that comes out of his mouth isn't helping the situation whatsoever.
Now, with the rioting and protesting against trump. Just like how I say the people that support trump says less about him and more about his supporters? It works the same way with those anti-trump people. Crap is disgusting IMO.
However, am I the only one not willing to vote for a guy that manages to bring out the worst of people on BOTH sides?
As much as I dislike Cruz, you don't see that happening at his rallies.
A guy who manages to bring out the worst in people isn't a good thing. No matter how someone tries to spin it.
Personally, I'd never heard of CP time before that little joke. I also see the hot sauce and mayo thing as little more than pandering, like the accent change. There is nothing genuine about that woman. She'd say tacos were her favorite food if she thought she'd increase her latino vote by a few percentage points.
As for trump and his wall, it's about damn time. We were supposed to close that border back in Reagan's presidency, and it never happened. I don't have a problem with people coming here to be US citizens, but we are cheapening what that means with no border controls.
As for trump supporters, I have yet to see them riot. I have seen trump protesters riot. Are you trying to say he shouldn't be elected because a Hungarian immigrant pays them to protest and riot?
We get it Arch, you're a special snowflake.. You make this apparent in every thread.. You're a saint, somebody should build a statue.
That's why I never address you anymore. I talk to people who are flawed. Since you're Jesus, there's no point of you discussing anything.
Pointless.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
What's sad is that you honestly think he's gonna build a wall.
After 30 years, you honestly think it's gonna change?
Mr. Anti-federalist, thinks a future politician is gonna do something about immigration?
You really bought into the feel good stuff. Jesus. I really thought you was smarter than that.
Amongst a host of reasons, yes, we shouldn't vote for this guy..
So are you saying that trump supporter didn't sucker punch the guy at the rally?
Don't be one sided, Erik.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
We get it Arch, you're a special snowflake.. You make this apparent in every thread.. You're a saint, somebody should build a statue.
That's why I never address you anymore. I talk to people who are flawed. Since you're Jesus, there's no point of you discussing anything.
Pointless.
????
How did you get THAT, from what I said? I simply said I had never in my life heard of CP time. Colored People time. Never in my life, until your woman said it, and even then, I had to search what it meant.
I'm not Jesus, I'm not a saint, and I'm not a snowflake.
What's sad is that you honestly think he's gonna build a wall.
After 30 years, you honestly think it's gonna change?
Mr. Anti-federalist, thinks a future politician is gonna do something about immigration?
You really bought into the feel good stuff. Jesus. I really thought you was smarter than that.
Amongst a host of reasons, yes, we shouldn't vote for this guy..
So are you saying that trump supporter didn't sucker punch the guy at the rally?
Don't be one sided, Erik.
Are you related to Miss Cleo, seeing as you see the future so well? He promised to build the wall, which is a great deal more than any other politician for a long time. We'll have to wait and see if he does.
I hope he does something about immigration. He's the only one really talking about it. The country greatly needs immigration reform, as those that try to come here legally are treated like criminals, while those who come here illegally are welcomed with open arms. That's just not right. I would really like to see Mark Stein start his class action lawsuit to get his money back that he paid to become a legal citizen, as he has talked about. Hillary wants to welcome anyone, as she believes they all have a right to what we have. I personally believe we should only bring people in that make our country stronger.
Do I believe everything he's said? You must really have a low opinion of me and my intelligence. Most politicians don't deliver on anything they promise. When trump wins, I hope he will be different. Once again, time will tell, Miss Cleo.
You're going to equate a punch with riots, blocking traffic, and the harassment by the protesters? Talk about one sided. Have there been any other violent trunp supporters? If so, I haven't really seen them in the news.
I mentioned both sides, the supporters and the anti trump, yet you're going off saying I'm one sided?
Yes, I thought highly of your intelligence. Until now. It's like you completely ignored everything I said, and made up what you wanted to read.
History says politicians don't do crap about immigration.
Did you see the different people who estimated how much this wall is gonna cost?
Even John Oliver roasted him about every rally, the cost estimate magically kept rising and rising when he gave speeches.
Unfortunately, the country benefits far too much from illegal immigration, as far as business and politicians go.
Of all the things trump has promised, which you JUST finished saying most politicians don't deliver on their promises, you believed the wall thing?
Lmao, aight bro. Have at it.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
I am probably going to have to vote for a 3rd party candidate, or else write in a more qualified person's name ... like GM's, or maybe Mickey Mouse.
One thing I am not going to do is leave my vote for President blank, because if there is a recount, I don't want anyone suggesting that I supported one candidate or another based on the rest of my ballot.
This whole situation makes me want to vomit. Profusely.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
I never said I believe it. I hope he follows through. As for politicians not doing anything, Eisenhower managed to deport 2.1 million illegals during 'Operation Wetback' in his administration. I love the lack of PC during that time too.
There you go, pit. Complete with graphs and all the fun stuff.
Obama has deported a crap ton of people.
Also found it interesting that recently, more Mexicans have migrated OUT of the country than in.
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“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
But I want to touch on the whole cp time thing. The standard is the standard, and I can't possibly be upset for the cp time when me and my boys literally made that same joke an hour ago in the gym.
Black people time. Who hasn't said that before. It's funny. Just like the whole hot sauce and mayonnaise stuff. It's funny.
As far as trump goes, I'm not liking the rhetoric about Mexicans.
I've made it clear that immigration is the one topic I side with republicans on...but come on. The crap that comes out of his mouth isn't helping the situation whatsoever.
Now, with the rioting and protesting against trump. Just like how I say the people that support trump says less about him and more about his supporters? It works the same way with those anti-trump people. Crap is disgusting IMO.
However, am I the only one not willing to vote for a guy that manages to bring out the worst of people on BOTH sides?
As much as I dislike Cruz, you don't see that happening at his rallies.
A guy who manages to bring out the worst in people isn't a good thing. No matter how someone tries to spin it.
Not necessarily bringing out the worst in people. Just bringing out the people who want to keep the freebies and "stuff".
Ya know, the ones who stand and use the f word and a finger to those people trying to become educated and attend political rallies.
Ya know, the adults who stood with children modeling this behavior and participating in it along side CHILDREN.
Ya know, the ones who stomped on police cars in a childish tantrum as people attended a political rally of someone they didn't support.
Ya know, those who block traffic of law abiding citizens in an effort to get their way.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
Yea, the people that sucker punch people at rallies.
You loved those people, huh. Cool stuff. Fight the power, c!!!!!!
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
But seriously, what politician doesn't love the poorly educated?
They are the easiest to manipulate. People who live in a bubble, no perspective on the outside world, easiest to manipulate.
The are the easiest to control and gain support from. Look at my signature quote. It's so accurate of this country.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
You're taking out of it what you want. And that's a negative. Had Hillary said it, you'd be all good with it. You know, CP time and all.
Hillary stated coal jobs would continue to be lost, and justly. Until she went back to W.V. and said "I'm sorry I said what I said when I didn't mean what I said, and I'm sorry you took it as I wanted you to lose coal mining jobs, but I didn't say that, because I want you all working in the coal mines, or somewhere, because I liked the coal miners before I said I didn't, but now I do again. Hey, where am I? Am I for coal, or against? Depends on where I'm at and if I'm campaigning or asking for donations. Hold on, I'm headed up to Wall St. to make a 20 minute speech and get paid $500,000, and no you can't hear what I say in that speech. Just, suffice it to say, my campaign will explain what I meant tomorrow, or maybe next week after we see what the polls say. And whatever the polls trend to, that's what I meant, trust me."
Why would I ever be good with any politician saying they love the poorly educated?
Can you give me a link to that quote, or are you pulling quotes out of your ass again?
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
Why would I ever be good with any politician saying they love the poorly educated?
Can you give me a link to that quote, or are you pulling quotes out of your ass again?
What does Clem have to do with this?
Oh, you meant me.
Here you go: "We won with the evangelicals, we won with the old, we won with the young, we won with the poorly educated. Hey, I love the poorly educated." Just as he loves the evangelicals (even though he isn't one), just as he loves the old, and the young, etc.
You can't really be this foolish, can you?
I get it, it's a sound byte you love. Look just a bit deeper - drop your hatred. It's an amazing feeling.
What hatred? I think trump is comical. Scary, but comical.
And do you seriously get that confused with the quick reply? I understand every once in a while, but this is a daily thing with you. Do you have that hard of s time following along?
hatred? My hatred is reserved for things that affect my life. Like mushrooms. I hate when my wife tries to slip mushrooms into salads. I hate mushrooms.
And zucchini. Hate that.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
I am probably going to have to vote for a 3rd party candidate, or else write in a more qualified person's name ... like GM's, or maybe Mickey Mouse.
HEY NOW I am way more qualified than Mickey. That dirty little shirtless rodent with the giant shoes, Michael Jackson gloves, nasty tail, and Mike Tyson voice. Now lets break down his list of pals
Minnie Mouse is Mickey's female counterpart, usually portrayed as his girlfriend. Originally characterized as a flapper, So she is a former stripper and a floozy.
Donald Duck is a quick-tempered, mischievous duck. Donald typically wears a sailor suit and is well-known for his semi-intelligible speech. Donald's stories are often triggered by his extraordinary bad luck, often brought about by his own actions. So he has a short fuse and a hair trigger. He impersonates a sailor even though he has never served in our armed forces
Daisy Duck is Donald Duck's girlfriend. Compared to most Disney characters, Daisy's personality is heavily subject to interpretation of the era, though she is typically portrayed as a pro-active female. Typically understanding of Donald's irascible personality, she will never fail to stand up to him should he go too far. So she puts up with living in an abusive relationship.
Goofy is Mickey's dim-witted but good-natured friend. Goofy is a highly anthropomorphic, bipedal dog who is terribly accident-prone. In some stories he dates Clarabelle Cow while other times he is shown as a single parent. His original name was Dippy Dawg. Now Goofy act's like he has been living with Cheech and Chong for years. He is the original stonner.
Pluto is Mickey Mouse's pet dog. Unlike the highly anthropomorphic Goofy, Pluto is characterized as a dog, walks on four legs, and almost never speaks.
Clarabelle Cow is a tall, bipedal cow who is Minnie Mouse's friend. She is prone to gossip and occasionally plays a well-meaning but ineffective parent figure to Donald Duck. She has been known to date both Horace Horsecollar and Goofy. HMMM she is a gossip that cheats on two men at the same time
Horace Horsecollar is a tall, usually bipedal horse who is Mickey Mouse's friend. He is prone to bragging and practical joking. Before the appearance of Donald Duck and Goofy, Horace was Mickey Mouse's usual sidekick. So he is a bragging horse who dates a cow and got dumped by Mickey because old Mick would rather hang around with a foul mouthed ill tempered duck and a stoner.
Pete (also called Peg-Leg Pete or Black Pete among other names) is a large cat and a recurring antagonist. His character ranges from a hardened criminal to an ethical menace. He sounds like a mob member to me.
Max Goof is Goofy's teenage son, who has only made a few comics appearances. Here is a kid who is ignored by his deadbeat father Goofy
Oswald the Lucky Rabbit is a black rabbit and Mickey Mouse's half-brother. Half brother Just who in the hell was Mickeys mother? OK I will give his mom a break maybe Oswald was adopted.
Scrooge McDuck is Donald Duck's wealthy uncle. Scrooge is sometimes characterized as a irritable miser, but he loves adventure, treasure hunting and his family. OK I see where all of Mickey's campaign funding comes from now. Dam special interest groups.
Huey, Dewey, and Louie are the three triplet nephews of Donald Duck. Three Juvenile delinquents.
Chip 'n' Dale are two chipmunks who are often trouble-makers for Pluto and Donald. Last but not least we have to furry little male strippers.
While I on the other hand am surrounded by and friends with all the characters on this message board.
Oh crap y'all are worse than Donald, Goofy and the rest of Mickey's crew. Just go ahead and vote for him
My non-psychic prediction of the upcoming liberal nightmare.
Pres - Trump Veep - Newt Gingrich Sec of State - John Bolton SCOTUS nominee - Ted Cruz Sec of Defense - Allen West Dept of Educaton - Gutted. Monitors education standards only. EPA - Gutted. They furloughed 95% in the last shut down and still ran.
My non-psychic prediction of the upcoming liberal nightmare.
Pres - Trump Veep - Newt Gingrich Sec of State - John Bolton SCOTUS nominee - Ted Cruz Sec of Defense - Allen West Dept of Educaton - Gutted. Monitors education standards only. EPA - Gutted. They furloughed 95% in the last shut down and still ran.
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