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WOOHOO we get to disagree again

Why are we going off of "who started it first"?

Because if we want to play that game, the very FIRST violent incident was some old dude sucker punching a black dude, and THEN saying "next time we might have to kill him"

That was a trump supporter, since we wanna play the blame game now.

But watch one of y'all go "who started it isn't important" even though y'all arguing who's the problem.

If the republican party is that corrupt, then they need to get the end over with. That will kill the party. It's not like it hasn't happened before.

Violence breeds violence

Scott Walker?



Didn't he get like 2 or 3 votes in the primaries? YES, he should be the GOP nominee! Him then Ted Cruz are both like Trump without the testosterone.

Yes, he incites riots.. When you go around saying your going to build a wall, that women bleed from (well you know the crap he's said)

It ticks people off.

As most of the trash that comes out of his mouth should.

But still, I have a belief that he's paying those folks to riot...

It has nothing to do with MLK..,Trump and MLK shouldn't even be spoken in the same sentence...

A lot of things tick me off, I don't riot over them or try to suppress other people's rights to free speech because of it.


No, he's not. Liberal action groups are..

I find it odd that Trump has been a public figure for the better part of 30 years.. and I know a lot of people didn't like him before politics, and that's fine... but in 30 years of business dealings with people of every race, gender, and nationality on the planet.. he was never accused of being a racist sexist bigot until he got into politics..

Now I know the things he has said and he probably deserves those labels.. but they seem to be completely antithetical to his beliefs BEFORE he got into politics, which is what leads me to believe most of what he is saying is just him playing the game.. which is why I don't think he actually believes most of what he is saying..

Dude, do you realize how false that is?

In 1973 he was being sued by the city or state because he refused to rent to black tenants.

Then in the 80's or 90's he said he doesn't like it when black people count his money.

And there's issues in between all of those.

that was probably the most incorrect post you have ever made.

He and his dad have a history of being racist dirtbags

Before his Presidential campaign the Trump image we know today was based on a reality tv show. Other than his name or persona how many folks actually knew that much about the man before 'The Apprentice'. He was just another NY multimillionaire whose name was thrown around and whose hair was made fun of.

But, even on that show his true colors showed through. His sexist and demeaning comments at the ladies or how he condescendingly talked down to Dennis Rodman and constantly interrupted and went off on random tangents were indicators of the guy we are seeing today. But, I am willing to bet that the Trump we have seen emerge in this campaign is a better reflection of the person he is. My skin crawls thinking what he probably says behind closed doors or in private business/board and campaign meetings.

DC, there is no way you can be 100% sure he's not behind the riots... Just like I can't be 100% sure he is.

I said, I BELIEVE he is... meaning that's my opinion and nothing but proof otherwise is going to make me change my mind.

I did. I read a couple of his books and followed a lot of his development projects.


Many of the ladies from his show seem to really like him..

What 18 former celebrity apprentice women think about Donald Trump


Dennis Rodman endorsed Trump for President

I think it is great that you are offended on behalf of all these people who actually worked with him.... but they don't seem to see most of what you saw..


Well, lucky for you, you don't have to bet.. because 19 people who have worked with him give their accounts in their own words of what he is like in the boardroom and when the cameras aren't rolling.... you can choose to believe it or you can go with the narrative you have written for yourself... doesn't really matter to me.

How many of those women said what they said to receive a favor in return? They probably have their current jobs because of him. It wouldn't be a wise thing to bad mouth the guy that helped you land your job. Maybe it's me being cynical.


Is Obamas objective to rally Bernie supporters behind Hillary?

http://www.breitbart.com/california/2016/06/10/anti-trump-thugs-gay-hispanic-republican/

Hernandez suffered a broken nose and several bloody scratches, requiring a tetanus shot. He is furious at the police, and at those prepared to use, or condone, violence against Trump supporters.

“It was much harder to come out as a Trump supporter than it was to come out as gay,” he notes, adding: “I should be able to vote for whom I want, and I shouldn’t have to deal with violence to go hear my candidate speak.”

"anti-trump-thugs-gay-hispanic-republican/"

What a URL

So Hillary's emails contained info about the CIA drone program and a member of the DOS Advisory Board was an unqualified stock broker who made a substantial contribution to Hillary... And the word is that she will probably not be charged.

If I did this they would lock me up and throw away the key. She is no damn better than Edward Snowden, and at least he performed a public service in his actions.

Trump bribed the Florida AG with a contribution... That's blowing up on her... Teflon Donald.

So apparently, one of Donal trumps billionaire supports hasn't paid a dime in taxes in 3 years

I'm just going to leave this one here...

Went to the Holocaust museum today, and I talked with a couple of HOlocaust survivors. I overheard the conversations they had with others, too.

Both of them are frightened by Donald Trump. I pondered wht, I had my inklings, but I continued to keep an open mind. I went through the museum, and m mind started drawing initial parallels.

Replace all the stuff about Jews, and insert minorities. Now you have Donald Trump.

Look, I hate comparing people to Hitler...but when you have Holocaust survivors comparing him to Hitler than I tihnk there's something to be said.

Oh, and the irony? I saw a few people rocking Trump shirts in the museum. Our electorate lacks any political education.

And GE got millions, or maybe billions, in refundable tax credits. The tax system is completely screwed. No surprise there. That's why it needs to be flatter, with fewer deductions and no refundable tax credits.

Not according to posters like Erik.

He think taxes need to be even lower. I guess billionaires need tax refunds, and after that, animal sacrifices or they'll threaten to go overseas.

Might as well bring back indentured servitude, seeing as Americans can't get a pay raise either.

It's crazy how people are ok with corporations and billionaires not paying a dime, yet complain that they pay too much.

That sound like patriotism to you? Damn sure doesn't to me.

I think that we need a much flatter tax system, with far fewer deductions and tax credits ..... across the board. How/why the IRS, a tax collection agency, became a social program is beyond me.

I think that tax rates need to be lower ....but that people need to pay the rate they are supposed to. It is idiotic to have a top rate of 40% or so .... that results in zero tax dollars being collected.

Holocaust survivors on Trump.

Read it, please.

Need to fix your link, you're missing the : after the https.

NEW YORK, NY—Responding to numerous statements which don’t mention him by name but are widely believed to include him in their intended audience, Donald Trump, Republican presidential candidate and self-described Presbyterian, fired back at the Holy Bible Saturday after it reportedly accused him of not being a Christian.
“I’ve said many times that I greatly appreciate the Bible, it has served us well, but folks, we can do better,” Trump said in a video shared on his Facebook page, adding that the Scriptures are “millions of years old and weak, so weak,” attributes he implied are to blame for Christianity’s perceived decline in America and why ISIS is “chopping off Christian heads.”
“‘Has-Been Bible’ says I’m not a Christian, but that is a lie, folks. I am a tremendous Christian—the very best,” Trump assured the nation. “These numerous verses from the Bible—which, by the way, doesn’t even have the courage to address me by name—but these verses that try to paint me as somehow un-Christian, they’re ridiculous and false, and it’s pathetic, really. It’s sad!”
Pressed for comment, the Holy Bible released a one-sentence statement: “You will know them by their fruits.”

I love the ether in that satire.

LOL

Which part don't you agree with?

The war thing?

That W left us in a mess?

Or that Obama had to spend a bunch of money digging out from under the mess that W left us in?

Yea it was amazing

The Obama administration is most likely way too busy making sure that all the illegals and Syrian refugees are legal to vote to care that one of the market insurance providers is asking for a 60%'increase in premiums, reaching even further into the pockets of struggling American citizens.

Probably not, but ok.

Just exactly who would that be? Our Obamacare went up 40% in one year. (My income went up by a whopping $6k from one year to the next)

Don't need it to shoot up for no apparent reason. (Don't need it to shoot up period)

Obamacare has slowed down the insurance premiums. My wife's insurance went up as well.

But the only way this complaint holds water is if the prices weren't already skyrocketing before Obamacare.

Insurance and the cost of meds were going up and up, obamabacare at the very least slowed it down a bit. But you guys are acting like the premiums weren't already rising in the first place.

The facts are there. We all know they were. Obsmacare isn't perfect, but no program is. The goal is to constantly tweak the system over time to make it work. That's how literally everything works. Same with applications. You make the app, then you spend your resources fixing bugs and perfecting the software as much as possible.

But they haven't made it affordable, and that is what the bill was called in the first place. The deductibles are so high you don't even want to use your own insurance.

I disagree just a bit.

Insurance rates and medical care costs were rising, yes. And under Obama care, they continued to rise. (now, you say obama care "at least slowed it down a bit" - ......but, I happen to believe the increases in the deductibles is/was primarily responsible for any "slowing" of the increases.

I know too many people that pay more for insurance, and have had 20-30% premium increases, and at the same time, their deductibles go up about a grand each year.

That's just MY experience.

That depends on who you ask about affordability.

My daughters recently got some bug, and I had to drop about 500 for both of them. I was pissed, but it would've been a lot higher had we not had any insurance.

Affordability is relative. I can't afford a Lamborghini. But Columbus probably can. I'm not comparing insurance to cars, btw, just making the example.

The system is gonna be tweaked. But come on Ted. Bro, you know just as well as I do that nothing ever comes out the gate working perfect. There's so many variables that need to constantly be accounted for so that we can get a hold of this.

Also, we still have to battle the fact that big pharma still runs everything, so they're the ones setting the prices.

As long as corporations are in complete control of healthcare cost, this is gonna be an uphill battle.

I feel you bro, and I'm not disagreeing that for some people, it's a bit out of control.

But there's also a lot more people covered as well. The system is gonna evolve and be tweaked. Something as major as this has never worked perfectly out the gate, or we would've done it already.

Here's another thing to ponder: We were told how everyone having insurance would actually SAVE people money - especially the people that already had insurance. Remember the "...will save a family about $2000 a year" comment?

It hasn't though. It's costing just about everyone more. More in premiums. More in higher deductibles, etc.

As to the other point about what things cost, get this:

8 years ago my sis in law got a blood clot in her leg. Potentially life threatening, as all blood clots are. After seeing a specialist, and tests, etc, she was diagnosed with some rare blood disorder that's about 31 letters long.

Any way, since my wife is her sibling, and twin, to boot, the specialist suggested my wife get tested for it.

She did, she had it. Cost for testing? $200, which included the office visit.

We had my daughter tested 2 months ago. Same doctor, same office.....heck, probably the same lab technician for all I know. Cost for daughter's testing? Just a couple of dollars under $900.


I think that's crazy. (and no, that has nothing to do with insurance, I know. It was more to the point of what types of increases in care are, and how high things are.)

Ok. I think overtime as long as we work with big pharma and start taking more control over the system, the cost will start coming down.

I already know all the stories about the premiums dude. The system is gonna take time to work and tweak.

That's my stance on it. I support the system, and my family is paying high cost in premiums as well. So don't act like I don't have any experience in this either.

Defense spending over the years Percentage of GDP




Obama has managed to almost double our nation debt despite the fact that he has cut our military expenses way down.

Joke! And Hillary the Steel Dragon's friends are squeaky clean.......right!

Blue cross Blue Shield of Texas. More to follow.

Visiting my representative tomorrow. Others should follow suit. Until they feel the heat, nothing will change. Complaining without action solves nothing. I'm just trying to be pro active and part of the solution.