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Kruger also had his best year (2014) when O'Neill was our DC. Regardless, he hasn't lived up to the contract. Perhaps that changes this year...

Pettine was in full control of the defense that year.

maybe it was scheme, fit, personnel, or something else, but our OLB were worst than I can ever remember under Pettine

I have no idea if that's true, although that has been the narrative around here.

That's what he said he was going to do and then the following year, he said he felt comfortable with O'Niell and decided he'd spend more time on Offense.

Got it. Thanks.

It's offical:

'Browns shut Desmond Bryant down for the season'

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/07/28/browns-shut-desmond-bryant-down-for-the-season/

Posted by Darin Gantt on July 28, 2016, 4:13 PM EDT

Browns defensive lineman Desmond Bryant was holding out hope, though there never really was that much to begin with.

The team announced Thursday that he was placed on the reserve/non-football injury list, officially ending his season. They signed tight end David Reaves to fill his roster spot.

Bryant initially said he hoped to return by the end of the season, saying he was “absolutely hopeful” even after tearing his pectoral muscle while lifting weights.

But the reality of a four- to six-month rehab meant that was never likely, and now the Browns will have to adjust without their 2015 sack leader.

I like Bryant, but there's always something health wise going on.

What do season long injuries, season ending like this one is, do to a contract year or multiple year, say later in a 3 year. Healthy, this guy can help us.

Get well soon!

seems like it

PatMcManamon ‏ @ PatMcManamon 41m 41 minutes ago

From @ AdamSchefter: # Browns meet w/ agent for Des Bryant, talk 2016 salary; Bryant was hurt working out on his own — http://es.pn/2aMuK4l

Adam Caplan ‏ @ caplannfl 4m 4 minutes ago

Adam Caplan Retweeted PatMcManamon

Interesting story here. Club has right under NFI designation to not pay him, but you don't see it often.

Jared K Mueller ‏ @ JaredKMueller 2m 2 minutes ago

Really interesting if the Browns indeed decide to not pay Des Bryant, at all or even partial. Sets a precedence:

Jared K Mueller ‏ @ JaredKMueller 2m 2 minutes ago

I wouldn't say it is a good precedence, Bryant wasn't playing basketball or doing something stupid, just working out. Seems like bad look

Seems like a poor PR move if they do this ... unless they know he wasn't forthcoming with his injury (and can prove it)

Here is Schefter on it:

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/17267...d-bryant-salary

He got hurt working out on his own.

so is there precedent in the NFL for teams to void a contract? I don't think I've heard of that if a player is just lifting on his own

interesting.. y would the team even let this out? must have been the agent.

I would think that such a tact would make the team less attractive to players down the road.

Every player today works out in the off-season. Why would a team punish them for trying to make themselves into a better player?

I was wondering why Bryant just switched agents.

Has to be more to this. This would be stupid even for a rookie FO.

There's definetly more to this ... No way there's not more too it ...

In this case ..

1 + 1 = 3 ... Maths not adding up here ...

Even though many of these guys work out on their own, I'd imagine that the team would have some kind of guidelines and/or prohibitions? If that is the case, maybe he didn't get injured overdoing it but rather doing something he wasn't supposed to?

They can't disclose what happened without his consent. I really feel like there is much more to this story.

Has to be more to it. I've never heard of a FO not paying a contract under these circumstances

Either the team knew Bryant wasn't injured the way he says he was, the report is false, or Bryant did something immoral/illegal

Yeah, there absolutely has to be more to it then this.

Maybe he has certain activities forbidden by his contract .. like riding a motorcycle, or skydiving, or something ..... and they have evidence that he did a forbidden activity, and that's how he got hurt.

I remember the motorcycle thing being a hot topic issue with Winslow. The FO still paid him as a sign of good faith and PR. Not saying Bryant did anything similar, but if so, this FO might not have the same good faith

It also all but indicates that Bryant won't be back

Perhaps this is "y:"

yeah. His contract is crazy for the amount of production and injuries that he's had/have.

-I dont know if anyone watches the show Ballers (HBO), but there was a similar situation where a player actually got hurt during the offseason while playing paintball with friends. Season ending injury, and his agents were trying to debate whether to admit it or say it was related to working out. So funny that the same week the show is televised, this happens.

But anyway, for money sake, I'm good letting Bryant go. Save the dough.

Playing paintball is vastly different from lifting weights. But yeah, blame the player.

And not paying him would not be such a good idea. It furthers the perception that the Browns are cheap and more worried about money than their players/winning.

I'm pretty sure the Browns will end up paying, but it probably won't be the full amount. It would be a huge PR nightmare (like some have already said) if we ended up not paying him at all...trying to attract future FAs could end up being a real issue. Whatever happens, I think Bryant has played his last down in Cleveland. If they had plans for him, this would never have been brought up.

Again, like others have said, it's very curious Bryant recently switched agents. Rosenhaus knows how to work the media to his client's advantage...there isn't really any doubt in my mind he's the one that leaked the story.

The organization told the press that the characters injury was "off the field workout related" instead of telling the truth... So I mean you really never know.

Some precedence apparently:



http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2016/08/desmond_bryant_on_the_browns_p.html#incart_m-rpt-1 (Full Article)

Agreed. I'd like to make us a hot destination, or at least keep us as a place where players want to re-sign.

At this point, we're better off paying the guy. When did we find out about this injury, and when would we have? I mean, could he have just stepped on the field, called it a freak injury, and pulled a LeCharles Bentley?

Yeah............like Memphis said, they will probably pay a percentage of the salary. Just follow standard protocol would be smart.

This is my thought. If he was dirt bike racing or something I might see it.. but just working out to try to make himself a better football player? Pay the man.

I wouldn't just cut him. That's a bad look for future FA's. I'm sure they'll pay a percentage

JMHO, article indicated many teams DON'T pay, some DO, most are somewhere in middle....we don't know the facts- where is the line, should players pay for insurance so they get a check (personal responsibility-my choice), should team pay- I'd think some, but not much/less than million....AND with youth movement he could be cut...NFL...Not For Long....GO Browns!!!

The PR aspect sucks, but he is paid to play, and he can't. He wasn't hurt on the job, so I'm not sure how injury guarantees work or if they were even in his contract.

I've liked Des since he's been here, but he's not getting any younger and a torn pec for a guy whose job is to bang in the trenches every play is probably going to be rough to come back from. I could see an injury settlement in his future. It is definitely unfortunate, but it is what it is.

And I am sure that will be done. The fact that some teams don't pay gives us options that follow the norm.