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Swish, they just need to make documentaries for all falsely accused black people. Hey, it worked for the "Making a murderer" guy, but he was white so idk.

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Originally Posted By: candyman92
lol there's actually blogs called "what is Matt Walsh wrong about today?" Sorry, I just got a laugh because I thought a Facebook comment was merely joking.

Like I said, I didn't know who this Matt Walsh was. I wrote that because I had a suspicion, based on his writing style, that he might not be the most popular guy out there.

He made a lot of good points in that write up though. What is going on is absolutely crazy. I would encourage people to do a little digging around to find some videos for themselves. Most mainstream media gave a hint as to what was going on, but only a hint. The most damaging and hurtful stuff was omitted.

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Haus, are you honestly surprised? I'm not.

This is the monster that people have created, including members here who have looked the other way when it comes to the blatantly false narratives of BLM and other similar social justice groups. Instead of holding those groups accountable to tell the truth and responsible for the lies, they chose to attack anyone who tried to point those things out as racists and Uncle Toms.

Rioting, murder, destruction of property and hurting the people you say you represent, and trying to make martyrs out of the low lifes who victimize their own neighborhoods... this is the modern Civil Rights Movement

*slow clap*

I have been following this stuff for a while now so I probably shouldn't be surprised. It still caught me off guard some-- the hatred was so blatant and what some of those protesters were doing is so against what they are supposedly for that it's hard to reconcile their views and their actions.

I think like my views are kind of in line with what the Civil Rights leaders had in mind decades ago. That is equality, everybody is held to the same standard, people are judged not by the color of their skin but by the content of their character. I feel like having those views and actually upholding them makes me a right-winger by default these days.

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This is not protest. This is criminal activity that should result in arrests.

Has the time come to actually define what "protest" is and is not. These people are societal misfits who need to be arrested and fined. Take money from their welfare check, employment or other government subsidy. Should be fairly easy.


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Originally Posted By: Swish
But I get it. People on this board can trash blacks and accuse us of double standards while y'all actively engage in double standards.

I should just be a good little colored boy and let y'all talk trash about us. Cause cops are good people and we all know everything is the darky's fault.


so if its ok for black folks to kill random white folks because a cop killed a black guy is it ok for white folks to kill random black folks if a black guy kills a white guy?

Im just asking because your logic doesnt make sense.

This dude pointed a gun at a cop and was killed right? Why does that surprise or outrage anyone? If I point a gun at a cop, I would fully expect to get shot. If my brother, sister cousin, mom, or dad pointed a gun at a cop, I would expect them to get shot...thats sorta how it works.

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Swish, they just need to make documentaries for all falsely accused black people. Hey, it worked for the "Making a murderer" guy, but he was white so idk.


Sorry bro, but IMO it won't matter

Look at some of the posters here. They seem to take personal delight in trashing blacks.

But the moment I fire back, I'm the bad guy. And that's how it works in real life.

I didn't say a word about the problems going on right now because the black dude deserved to be shot and those people are rioting over nothing.

But as soon as Haus posted, I already knew the direction the thread was going.

And then the usual suspects followed suit. At this point, it doesn't matter what happens.

Haus talks about confirmation bias when it comes to people against trump. Well look at the confirmation bias when it comes to these posters against blacks.

At this point, I'm wondering if blacks really are just better off moving back to Africa. It's clear as hell we ain't wanted here.


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Read my response to candy.


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At this point, I'm wondering if blacks really are just better off moving back to Africa. It's clear as hell we ain't wanted here.


well, there goes the Olympics then

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At this point, I'm wondering if blacks really are just better off moving back to Africa. It's clear as hell we ain't wanted here.


well, there goes the Olympics then


Athletics is the only time people wanna "unite" and cheer on people who are just "Americans".

Other than that, need to keep those blacks in the hood where they belong.


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smh

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Yeah man, it's our fault that this is happening in Milwaukee.

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Swish, they just need to make documentaries for all falsely accused black people. Hey, it worked for the "Making a murderer" guy, but he was white so idk.


Sorry bro, but IMO it won't matter

Look at some of the posters here. They seem to take personal delight in trashing blacks.

But the moment I fire back, I'm the bad guy. And that's how it works in real life.

I didn't say a word about the problems going on right now because the black dude deserved to be shot and those people are rioting over nothing.

But as soon as Haus posted, I already knew the direction the thread was going.

And then the usual suspects followed suit. At this point, it doesn't matter what happens.

Haus talks about confirmation bias when it comes to people against trump. Well look at the confirmation bias when it comes to these posters against blacks.

At this point, I'm wondering if blacks really are just better off moving back to Africa. It's clear as hell we ain't wanted here.

Swish, it's not just the rioting. It's the rioters and mobs of black people who are on video specifically hunting down whites. "They white! Beat they ***! Beat. They. ***!!!!!!" Cars smashed in the street because the driver was white. Businesses burned down. One chick got in people's faces and told them to take it to the suburbs and burn their **** down. A white kid got shot in the neck for no other reason than he was white.

A lot of this is on video. I have actually refrained from posting the most incendiary takes. I haven't posted any video of this even though I'm positive they would prove me right. Part of it is because most of these videos are loaded with swearing but mostly it's because I realize it's already an edgy enough situation out there and I'd rather not escalate that any more than I already have in the past. If people are interested, they can dig around a bit. Don't expect to find much on CNN but it's definitely out there.

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smh


Exactly how I feel.


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That sucks.

It also sucks when White's finally get treated the same way blacks have, doesn't it.

Guess you finally understand what it's like to be targeted just because of your skin tone.

The fact that y'all had to learn the hard way is pathetic.


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Them poor kids just want to be able to loot, riot, and stuff without being bothered.

Im sure burning down your own neighborhood will do a lot to ease police and racial tensions.

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The fact that y'all had to learn the hard way is pathetic.


Do you honestly think that anyone is going to learn anything or change anything because of these riots or randomly attacking white people?

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Grrrrrrrrrrrrr............Never mind.

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The fact that y'all had to learn the hard way is pathetic.


Do you honestly think that anyone is going to learn anything or change anything because of these riots or randomly attacking white people?


Apparently not. But yet somehow on the flip side, you expect blacks to treat cops with respect after the history of the way they've treated us since slavery ended.

Do as I say, not as I do, right?


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So if I am mugged by a black guy it is ok to treat every black guy I meet like the one that mugged me back in 99?

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Why not? Apparently it's ok to judge all the blacks because of the few who riot.

Might as well. Have at it bro. It's a free country after all.

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Much as its OK to judge all cops by the actions of few?

Much like its OK to judge all whites by the actions of few?

Much like its OK to treat all whites as if they were slave owners?

You wanna talk double standards? Hello pot...

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Originally Posted By: Swish
But I get it. People on this board can trash blacks and accuse us of double standards while y'all actively engage in double standards.

I should just be a good little colored boy and let y'all talk trash about us. Cause cops are good people and we all know everything is the darky's fault.

Wow, trip down memory lane. You just took me back to many conversations I had with my grandfather about 30 years ago. Thanks for bringing those memories up.

Now, onto the substance of your point.

There are thousands of interactions between black folks and the police on a daily basis in this country. The vast majority of them are handled appropriately by both sides. In some incidences the black person becomes aggressive, displays a weapon, etc. In most of those instances the black person is taken down physically and sometimes they get shot, sometimes they manage to shoot the police.... In other instances cops have been overly aggressive and used excessive force and even killed black folks who were of no real threat. In each and every case, my only wish is that the real truth will come out and the right people will be held accountable. I do not view myself as having a double standard, I want the law applied appropriately to EVERYBODY. (and I get it that you don't think it is in most cases) The one thing I do know is that responding in the way they have so often, by burning and destroying property, getting violent with innocent people, looting, etc. (especially before the facts have even been sorted out).. does absolutely zero to make me want to fight harder for your cause. I want those people arrested like common criminals. I'm really trying to see this from your perspective and on some levels I think I do, but it will never be as personal to me as it is to you. I want you to try to see it from my perspective... the rioting, the looting, the burning buildings, the violence.. the ONLY thing that accomplishes is to reinforce the stereotypes in those who already have this fear or distrust of the black community. I don't see a single positive thing that comes from it. It does get people's attention but it does not draw people to your cause..


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I don't treat White's as Slavs owners.
I certainly treat cops that way though.

I'll change when they do. Because blacks have tried the nice polite act respectable way it it still didn't work.


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So if I am mugged by a black guy it is ok to treat every black guy I meet like the one that mugged me back in 99?


You know we once had a topic where some 60 year old woman said, in an op-ed, she judges all black people based on the one who mugged her a decade earlier. A lot of the people on this forum stood up for her, or at least her thought process.

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Hearing that 1/8 of working aged black males in Wisconsin were locked up and the majority of them coming from the protest zones makes me understand completely why they do not trust the police... Especially since the video hasn't been released yet.

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I don't treat White's as Slavs owners.
I certainly treat cops that way though.

I'll change when they do. Because blacks have tried the nice polite act respectable way it it still didn't work.

This reminds me of a thread Lurker made on here not too long ago. Here's the relevant part of his post:

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Him: Black lives matter and these cops don’t care about us, they out here trying to kill us
Me : No, they are not….. and you are going to be stuck like that until you change your mentality about the situation
Him: what do you mean
Me: we have a choice to make our lives better no matter what are circumstance, I am from Cleveland trust me I know
Him: What part?
Me: Kinsman
Him: I am from 1XXstreet on Kinsman
Me: That is actually the street that I am born and raised but moved to Columbus when I was 13.


Make of it what you will. He and I may have had a different upbringing but we certainly share a similar attitude.

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So if I am mugged by a black guy it is ok to treat every black guy I meet like the one that mugged me back in 99?


You know we once had a topic where some 60 year old woman said, in an op-ed, she judges all black people based on the one who mugged her a decade earlier. A lot of the people on this forum stood up for her, or at least her thought process.

I stood up for her thought process and still do.. and she didn't judge black people based on it.. she just had an inherent fear based on that incident.

I have a cousin that was attacked and torn up by a stray dog when she was 3, she grew up very afraid of dogs she didn't know. She's in her 40s and still gets very edgy around dogs.. that's how the human brain works. It makes associations. If the mugger was a Vietnamese midget, she would have made a different association... You can deny how the human brain works all day if you want to make people look bad... but that's how it works.


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What you just told me is that it doesn't matter what we do.

People are gonna come up with any way to enforce their stereotypes on us.

So why bother


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And? I don't share the same view.

So all well.


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The human brain is wired for a society that predates written launges. Many thought processes that human's possess are deeply flawed. Make no mistake, I am no different.

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And? I don't share the same view.

So all well.

Read Think and Grow Rich by Napoleon Hill. There are some overriding themes in the book and one of them is that thoughts tend to eventually manifest themselves in reality.

A lot of it is geared toward having the mindset to accomplish some goal and make money (which I figure you may be interested in as well) but it can certainly apply here. If you have this resentment and an urge to strike out against police and the system, it is bound to happen eventually.

Lurker's post is powerful because it shows that you don't have to have my experiences or my viewpoints on police and such for the part about having a positive attitude to still be helpful.

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I'm not reading anything.

How about everybody treats people the same. How about that? How about I'll treat cops with respect when I stop getting searched for drugs.

I'll call for blacks to stop defending criminals when you tell White's to stop defending bad cops.

But lemme guess, that's too much to ask for.

I'm tired of y'all trying to tell me and others to stop judging all when y'all can't even get your own people to do the same.

I ain't reading a damn thing.


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I got vers telling me to stop acting like this and call out bad blacks, but he won't tell the cop on this board to call out his own profession?

Do as I say, not as I do.


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Originally Posted By: Swish
I'm not reading anything.

How about everybody treats people the same. How about that? How about I'll treat cops with respect when I stop getting searched for drugs.

I'll call for blacks to stop defending criminals when you tell White's to stop defending bad cops.

But lemme guess, that's too much to ask for.

I'm tired of y'all trying to tell me and others to stop judging all when y'all can't even get your own people to do the same.

I ain't reading a damn thing.

I am all for treating people the same. Implicit in this is that hate crimes should carry the same gravitas, regardless of what groups the perpetrators and victims belong to.

Your comments about not reading anything are very naive. At least say that you're too busy or something and maybe you'll look into it at some point.

It's a good book. I have many more recommendations that I'm sure you would love.

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So you rather me lie to your face instead of telling you the truth that I'm not gonna read it?

Boy oh boy. I thought we like the truth around here.


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So you rather me lie to your face instead of telling you the truth that I'm not gonna read it?

Boy oh boy. I thought we like the truth around here.

Why do I even bother... I should have known this would be the result

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Exactly how I feel when it comes to any conversation with you.


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Funny a guy that brags about his drug use complaining that cops search him for drugs...

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I wasn't using when I was active.

But gotta find a way to take that shot, right Arps?


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