DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Tailgate Forum Three Dozen Dog Corpses Found on Vick Property

What do you think about the possibilty of racqeteering and tax evasion on the gaming and gambling end?

And I have a feeling there's probably federal laws regarding interstate transportation of dogs for such activities as well. I just think since the Feds are getting involved,they're digging deeper than just the dog fighting aspect of things IMO

http://network.bestfriends.org/animallawcoalition/news/13271.html
Here's the Georgia law for dogfighting:

Currently, Georgia has a fairly weak dog fighting law. Georgia State Senator Chip Rogers hopes to change that. His bill, S.B. 16, goes far beyond the current law which basically limits any prosecution for dog fighting to those caught in the act of actually goading or allowing dogs to fight. O.C.G.A. § 16-12-37

The proposed bill will hold accountable owners, breeders, trainers, transporters, sellers or purchasers of fighting dogs. The law will make it a felony for anyone to (1) provoke, harass, or encourage a dog with another animal for the specific purpose of training a dog for or causing a dog to engage in fighting (also known as baiting); (2) train, purchase, sell, transport, transfer, breed, or equip any dog for baiting or dog fighting activity; (3) possess dogs for baiting or fighting, (4) possess dog fighting paraphernalia, (5) rent, obtain or make available any property or location for the purpose of dogfighting, (6) organize, facilitate, conduct, referee, promote, advertise, sponsor, charge admission for or serve as the stakeholder for any dog fighting or baiting activity, (7) bet, gamble or encourage anyone else to do so on any baiting or dog fighting activity, (8) attend a dog fight.

The current sentence of 1-5 years and a fine of $5000 remains the same for a first offense. For a second offense under the proposed law, a person will face 1-10 years in prison and a $15,000 fine. Under S.B. 16 the court may prohibit the offender from owning or possessing any dog or having a dog on his property during the term of his sentence.

Sen. Chip Rogers sponsored the bill after a dog trained to fight attacked a young boy, requiring the child to undergo 8 surgeries on his face.

SB 16 has already passed the Georgia Senate.

A companion bill pending in the Georgia House of Representatives, H.B. 301, is more limited. That bill would basically make it illegal to own, possess, train, transport, or sell fighting dogs and cause dogs to fight. It would also be illegal under the House version to bet on dog fighting or provide a location for a dog fight.

There is no ban, though, on breeding dogs for fighting, baiting or possessing dog fighting paraphernalia.

It would be a misdemeanor to attend a dog fight.

There have been several raids in recent years in Georgia in the effort to stop dog fighting, including one in Newton County in January, 2004 in which authorities interrupted a well-attended dog fight in progress. But authorities have had a difficult time prosecuting anyone under the current law. At the time he introduced SB 16, Sen. Rogers noted there was only one person actually in jail in Georgia for dogfighting.

In the Newton County raid police arrested 123 people who had gathered at a farmhouse for a dog fight. The winner-take-all pot was $50,000. The dog fighting ring was set up in the front room of the house. There was blood everywhere, on the walls, the carpet. One dog was dead at the side of the “ring”. Another was so badly injured it was later euthanized. Thirteen other dogs were taken to animal control facilities.

The charges filed included felony cruelty to animals, dog fighting and commercial gambling.

Authorities also seized guns, cars, dog fighting magazines, several kilograms of marijuana and cocaine and more than $140,000. There were four trophies found that had been engraved with the date of the fight.

Last month in Sardis, Georgia two men were arrested for dog fighting. They are suspected of stealing people’s pets to use as “bait” to train other dogs to fight. Authorities found a video showing the men throwing dogs into a ring or pit with fighting dogs. The dogs thrown in with the fighting dogs were all maimed or killed.

Also last month a Cobb County grand jury indicted people for dog fighting following a January, 2006 raid. Authorities at that time found a dog fighting pit in a garage of a home. There was blood everywhere. Eleven adult dogs and 4 puppies were found at the scene. The dogs were scarred and also underweight and malnourished.

Police found hypodermic needles and injectable antibiotics as well as equipment for training dogs to fight.

Just this past week in Laurens County, Georgia sheriff’s deputies arrested 15 men suspected of staging dogfights. They were found at a residence behind which was a dog fighting pen and a number of dogs. In addition to dog fighting, it is hoped they can be charged with animal cruelty and gambling.

Deputies found 38 dogs at the scene. The dogs were taken to the county animal control shelter. Many of the dogs are females used for breeding. The dogs were described as “very thin” and in generally poor condition. The male dogs had wounds from fighting on their heads, faces, shoulders and front legs.

The sheriff’s department reported they have been working for 7 years to have enough evidence to make an arrest for dogfighting. These are the first arrests for the blood sport in Laurens County.

The first arrests for dog fighting were made in Oglethorpe County in the fall, 2006. Authorities raided a house where a dog fight was taking place. Several men fled as law enforcement approached, but eventually 6 were arrested for dog fighting and animal cruelty. Several trucks filled with cages containing dogs were found at the scene. Two dogs that had been fighting were injured so badly they were euthanized.

There is no question through these and other arrests in the past few years, many Georgia counties are trying to crack down on dog fighting.

Though the proposed fines are not large in view of the purses that can be won in a dog fight, the new dog fighting law, S.B. 16, will give law enforcement far more tools than they have now to end this horrific blood sport.

It is time to get serious about stopping this dangerous underworld activity characterized by illegal gambling and drugs, weapons and violence. Because of weak laws and the difficulty of prosecuting dog fighting in any event, this underground sport has fluorished and become big business. It is the dogs in particular that have paid the price. They have been bred and trained for fighting, often ending up dead, maimed, and scarred as a result of these brutal fights. Or they are seized by animal control or dumped at local shelters, generally unadoptable, and where they are almost always euthanized.

That's what I thought you were refering to with the term RICO but wasn't really sure. Thanks Peen.

ya .. we know nothing ... .... pay attention dude ...

1. Vick LIED about never being at the house ..... he said he was never there .. his NEIGHBORS PROMPTLY REFUTED THAT ... gee i wonder why he'd LIE ABOUT THAT ... how convienant ... *LOL* ..

but that means nuttin ...

2. an INFORMANT who has been one for at least a few years and who was VALIDATED by a LAW ENFORNCEMENT officer that has used him in more than one other case said that back in 01 or 02 he owned dogs that fought against dogs Vick owned ...

he also said that Vick was a HEAVYWEIGHT in the dog fightin world in that he bet alot of money on HIS DOGS ...

he said he saw him ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS at dog fights as recently as 05 ....

3. now he owns a house where over 30 DOGS were confiscated (amazingly enough all pit bulls.. guess he REALLY LOVES pit bulls and EVERYTHING ELSE IS JUST COINCIDENCE .. *LOL* .. ) ....

in this house are all kinds of training devices for dog fighting ... a dog fighting pit with blood all over it .. blood all over the kennels ..

and now dead dogs are found there .. *LOL* ..

theres REASON TO BELIEVE hes a GUILTY POS ..... cause either a whole of people who are GAINING NOTHING (his neighbors and the informant) are making things up and alot of coincidences are taking place or hes as GUILTY AS OJ WAS ....

but i'm sure u believed OJ didnt do it and Barry never took roids ... *LOL* ..

oh wait ... your right ... just like Barry didnt know what his trainor was giving him and EVERYTHING ELSE that made him appear to be on Roids was just Coincidence ... the same theory must hold true here for Vick ...

some people amaze me ...

Pete .. I could care less WHY .. i could care less if its his celebrity .. i could REALLY CARE LESS ...

and they would more than likely be doing the same thing even if he wasnt a celeb .. but we would NEVER HEAR ABOUT IT .. how do u know theres not 10 other dog fighting investigatons going on down there that are MUCH BIGGER than this one and we just dotn't know about it???

U think if they investigated Joe Blow for this we'd hear about it??

Rage .. hes so perfect he dont' sweat ... nor does his crap stink ... u do'nt know nuttin ..

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Could the guy in question be Tant?

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Now they want to bring david Tant into this!! wow


I dont see Tant having anything to do with Vick beside maybe selling him a pup or two .
From what i heard the only reason people paid any attention to Vick anyway was it was like taking candy from a baby . His money that is

no offense... but what does Georgia law have to do with it (did I miss something here?)?

Well Tant was prosecuted in Georgia. Somebody brought up that he was sentenced to forty years. So I think that it was posted so people could look at Georgia law vs W.(by God) Va. law.

I don't know what "possible future legislation in Geogia" has to do with ANY of that,but what the hell!

ahh, ok... I missed the part where that is where Tant was prosecuted.

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Rage .. hes so perfect he dont' sweat ... nor does his crap stink ... u do'nt know nuttin ..

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LOL

I wouldn't worry about the commish. Vick won't need to be suspened as there are
enough ALLEGATIONS that IF he is convicted will put him behind bars for a long time.

Personally I don't think the NFL should do anything until Vick is convicted of something.

He may be guilty as hell but until he's convicted he's innocent and that should hold true fro a celbrity as any of us. Of course we may not have heard of this if Vick didn't own the property.

You wonder how many players in the league would be out of work if the NFL screened for sociopaths ... I hope the league and the law throw the book at this POS.

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ya .. we know nothing ... .... pay attention dude ...

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Go back and reread my post,,, I'm sorry if you don't understand what I was trying to say,, must be because you are too busy being arrogant

hmmmmm ...... well heres what u said .... and these will be DIRECT COPY AND PASTES ...

Yeah, right now all anyone is saying is that they SUSPECT things.. It's not been proven and it hasn't been argued in a court,, So, what do we really know,,, NOTHING!



is this when my arrogance got in my way??? w/o my arrogance how would i have interpreted it?? please tell me .. cause i guess my ARROGANCE is mucking things up for me again .. cause i think i NAILED IT DEAD ON when I said we DO KNOW ALOT OF THINGS .. and then GAVE PROOF that directly REFUTES your line of all we do IS SUSPECT THINGS ..

maybe u mistake my arrogance for FACTS ... *LOL* ..

It may be the old "smoking gun" thing. Then again, It may be nothing at all.. What's the saying, "Much ado about nothing"!



and how could that be???? all his neighbors lied .. the informant lied .. the dog carcasses were "planted" .. *L* ..

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But until that time, he's got to be presumed innocent! Too often we are ready to convict someone without proper investigation

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Sure just LIKE OJ AND BARRY ....

hes GUILTY Daman .. and my guess is this case never gets near court .... cause PROVING it is a whole nother story ... GUILTY people with MONEY walk all the time ...

i guess when my arrogance is all u got as a defense for your lame ass stance .. your GUILTY to ... *LOL* ..

Picky little SOG aren't ya,, get and stay off my freakin back,, you love trouble and I don't need your kind in my life,,,,