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What. A. Cluster. F@#%! SSDY.

I thought the offense was okay.

Special teams was bad.

Defense was....


Holy frickin hell.

Compared to? What? A cluster f@#%? Two good plays. A TD to Gordon. A completed pass to Gordon. And... Oh. Nothing else.

We suck. We are going to be bent over all year.

What pisses me off the most is year after year we let our best players walk. When will our mgt pay these people who deserve to be paid.

It makes no sense to clear house every year. Keep the good, get rid of the bad, that is all I am asking.

One thought: When you have the worse owner in all of pro sports you're screwed!

We need to settle on some starters on D and let them get reps- stat. Whatever we were mixing and matching tonight wasn't working.

Beginning of the season is looking rough. This team needs reps, especially OL and secondary.

Ogbah and Nassib need to develop fast, too. Pass rush was pretty weak tonight. I'll admit Winston was moving well. but we've gotta get better.

It's early to be thinking draft, but we look like we need D more than QB.

Growing pains could suck this season. Hopefully they actually show some growth as the season moves along.

It's not looking like we have to worry about losing Horton to a HC job, whether that's a good thing or not remains to be seen.

Another thought: it doesn't matter who owns the team, who coaches or who the players are because the Browns suck the puss from every boil on every ass in the world.

Here's another idea: fire Horton for impersonating a DC.

Don't worry it's just preseason, it will be much better once the real games start. They are just mixing and matching right now.

Well, at least we'll have lots of things on tape that we can try to correct.

I'm glad that one doesn't count.

Hopefully, the team gets angry rather than fold. Hue's gonna have to earn that paycheck.

I'm not worried because I know they suck as a whole... So it's a given they'll suck when everyone who starts is in there.

in total, it's just sad.

RG3 will have to have a qb rating of 100 each for game even for this
Team to have a fighting chance.
It might score 20 a game but this creme puff d will give up 31.

Where's all the guys that wear the rose colored glasses?

Offensively, I think Hue is holding back on his play calls. I plan on seeing a lot more quick passes on WR & HB screens.

Our O-line will be our Achilles heel on offense. We need guys to be on the same page and execute every single snap. We need them to keep RG3 up right and healthy.

Defensively, I'm really worried about all aspects, starting with the DC.
I just don't get a great feeling for Horton anymore. I don't have confidence in him to call a good game.

Defensive line - needs to get stout against the run, and get to the QB QUICKER!!!

LB's - MLB's are the brightest spot of our defense. Davis is a vet with good experience, and IMO Kirksey looks light years better than what he was last season. OLB... ehhh..

Secondary as a whole ... OUtside of Haden.. who the hell is starting? Ive seen flashes from Campbell and I have a good feeling about Kindred. I think Poyer will be a liability in the backfield, as well as every other corner we have on the roster. I mean good grief. Winston got damn near 300 passing yards in TWO QUARTERS!!!!!!!!

I look at this this way: OH MY GOD! WHAT THE HELL IS THAT?

I was at the game and had to leave at half it was so brutal...what a crappy fan experience there at RJS, their wifi sucks, no cell towers and that stupid cannon is annoying, especially tonight..lol, some Buc fan tried to high five me after they scored, i looked at him and like WTF are you doing, i'm a browns fan...and yes..i left him hanging. But what i saw is years and years of craptastic drafts coming to fruition. I think instead of taking 500 WR this year, they should have spend some of them on line help, both sides...Shelton is a marshmallow with cleats, i had a chance to watch the lines alot, our Dline is the worst we've had since our return...Kruger is stealing money, this line really misses Bryant, we have no safeties to speak of, after the TD to Vjack where he basically carried the defender in like a high schooler playing keep away from his elementary school brother, The CB was jawing quit a bit at the FS, so it sounds like the secondary is a mess.

Offensively outside of RG3 and our WR/TE, have little, I will say the line opens up quite a bit of holes in the run game, Crowell doesn't always hit said holes, but they also are weak at the point of attack and they all get overpowered quite a bit which leads to pressure. Either TB is going to the superbowl or we are really that bad. If this is the dress rehearsal, i think we went to the wrong show

I see our o-line is not that great.

I see one of our top needs is at safety and better LBs.

Good news is that next draft we have the pics to do something about it.

I also imagine we are playing very vanilla expecially since we been practicing against tampa all week and have little left to learn. I would like to see more beign accomplished besides a go right on the right side even if it seems to work great no matter who we throw it to on that side. Gary, Josh, and Tyrelle have all made big catches on the same darn pass.

Does the Browns defense even have a true leader
A catalyst?
A heartbeat?
This defense is worse than the 99 defense

The defense is very young, and Horton runs a fairly complicated defense. He also likes to dump everything on his defense from the word go, and let them catch up as the year goes by. I think that the defense will improve as the year goes by.

The OL is going to cause issues for us on offense. We have some talent on that side of the ball, and developing Pryor is a bonus .... but the OL will be a drag on the offense, especially early on.

I haven't had a chance to watch all of the game yet, but I see no reason to change my prediction of 3-4 wins. This team should be far better at the end of the season than it is at the start of the season, but wins are going to be few and far between this year.

Our OL is what we're used to: AWFUL
Our defense is what we're used to: EVEN WORSE

Coleman looked a little ill prepared
We need to get Duke the ball more
Erving had a few comically bad plays ... so did the RT spot
Our LBs literally can't cover a shadow
half of our secondary is SLOWWWW

The offense looked better when Joe Thomas was in, he only played for a little bit.

The D is horrible, but it's preseason so we should expect it. I'd much rather have this game in preseason than in regular season. I remember years where we dominated preseason and finished bad.

I hope the D is just Horton getting tape on the younger guys because if they play this bad during the season he won't be able to get hired as a waterboy when Jimmy Haslam fires him.

Prior to the game, I thought Gabriel had little to no chance to make the team. He may have kept his job with his performance.

I also think this game was about the next draft. I noticed that a couple of our bubble players and Gilbert got significant looks. I think this could have been as much about letting potential trade partners see them as it was about our staff getting that final decision look at them.

Gabriel was one.

get used to some horrible calls all year, in the Bills Skins game if you touched Cousins there was a flag, you cannot touch the QB at all this year

RG3 will not make it to the Pats game
Gordon is still a freak
DB s are crap
we have the slowest defense around
the O line besides thomas is junk, Thomas will want a trade by week 6

it seemed to me like the coaches wanted the game to make or break Gabriel ... he got his audition to be on the squad

and yes camm ... slowest D I've seen. Our LBs and DBs have no quick twitch

Also, I'm very tired of watching Paul Kruger aka the White Bojangles. Dancing around and never disrupting.

Kruger has been a waste of money ever since he got here.
He only thrived in Baltimore cause Suggs was on the other
Side.
He should be cut but he won't be.

The same move rush and take a real wide circle to the Qb

Josh showed he still has it but once the season starts he will have too much free time (sitting the first 4) and slip up blaze up and that will be that

What I don't get is this front office
Had the cap room to go out and sign a
Pass rushing threat off the edge.
This defense is so young Kruger probably thinks
His role is secure cause of all the years he put
In.
He's just collecting a pay check.
Kruger won't even get 5 sacks this season.

Yet again, it's apparent this team probably won't win unless BOTH sides of the ball come up with a nearly flawless effort.

I'm still willing to give Hue plenty of time to right this thing.

No doubt it will take time with this team. Let's hope our FO will give it to them. I don't have a crystal ball but I really think we are going to give up well over 400 points this year. 25-30 points a game is a very real possibility.

Is Poyer dinged up? He's been pretty invisible so far.

I hope Horton was super focused on gap discipline and run stopping on D for some reason. It seemed like pretty much every play our front 7's job was to go straight ahead and engage the blocker there.

The right side of the line needs to get on the same page. Erving doesn't seem like he's getting blown up like he did last year, but he and Greco are working together poorly. I'm glad we saw stunts now rather than game 1 of the regular season. They need to get that cleaned up.

I don't think that our ILBs are slow (Scooby is a bit). I think they were just matched up on WRs frequently which is never a good thing.

Our OLBs on the other hand looked plodding. Orchard made Winston look nimble.

Tabor has to find some new special teamers. Our kick coverage looked like they were stuck in molasses.

TP made a solid catch on a non-go route which while not spectacular was nice to see.

Coleman was underwhelming, but he didn't seem to get that many snaps. Hope the hammy held up.

Is tangling your feet with the receivers' the new preferred coverage method?

I saw another Browns Embasrasing performance , that's all ? Gary

Hell, fans were outright laughing at the Browns in the stadium with the general idea of Bucs' fans being "I thought we were bad but look at those guys...".