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There's more coming also. Pretty sure of it. Regardless, the lies she's told in just the past 6 months is beyond belief.

Let's give it a few weeks. (heck, maybe even this weekend? Holiday weekend? What better time than a friday afternoon on a holiday weekend for bad news to come out, right?)

Read me carefully: I'm saying she'd probably not get her more liberal programs through. Look at the makeup of congress.

I don't dismiss the concerns... I see no point in piling on the ones that you and I and everyone else shares. They've been hammered into the ground, for cryin out loud!

Yeu read too much into what I wrote. I have no assumptions about WHAT Trump might get through congress. My main concern with him is his volatility and unpredictability as leader of the free world and commander-in-chief.

I think I'm going to leave this one alone from here on out.

I dislike Clinton. I hate Donald Trump the human being. More than I've hated any candidate since I reached voting age.

You feel the same way about HRC.

Any further conversation between us about these two losers is going to just be tit-for-tat cabbage-chewing about the details... and I really don't want to do that with you. It hasn't been the nature of our relationship up til now, and I don't want it to be some new thing between us. 'Cause frankly, we can't fix the flaws in these candidates, and we can't change each others' minds.

Can we please be okay with it this way?

Absolutely.

The only problem is, not everyone sees the "concerns" with hillary. In fact, many that DO see them dismiss them as "Oh well........."

Same can be said about Trump supporters.

But folks, there's a huge difference. Hillary has been a sworn in politician since.....when? And her lies only get worse. She's good, though, at her lies, and covering her ass.

And in case there is any question, I do not like that clinton girl, I do not like her, she makes me hurl. She has more lies than an outhouse has flies. I do not like that hillary girl, not here, nor there, nor anywhere. (and we can see why I don't make my living in children's literature)

The lady is a scam artist of brilliance, and it's working.


It's not over, though.

I'm surprised that Clinton has got this far and has been allowed to continue. To me the sheer amount of scandals and the FBI\congressional investigations she's had should have disqualified her as a candidate. I am very confused as to why it hasn't. Are people stupid or do they not care? I don't understand it really.

How is there a difference?

They both lie. Horribly.

Anyways, just a general comment:

How come trump didn't go hard in the paint on his immigration speech when he was in Mexico?

Did a 180 as soon as he got back state side. So he's only a tough talker when he's around his homies?

I saw something funny yesterday, that basically asked why we cant build his wall while he was in Mexico

Put her in a blue dress and a dark wig, then hand her a box of cigars. I am sure Bill could then get something to stick on her.

I'm not fighting that notion at all... In fact, unless something really crazy happens (and I have no idea what it would take) I'm going with Johnson.

Damn, they can't even fake-act like Trump has a shot?

John McCain wins his primary, promptly gives up on Donald Trump

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-...trump/#comments

Literally one day after winning his primary, Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) gave up on Donald Trump. In fact, McCain now sounds a bit like he's betting on Trump losing — or, at least, looking like a loser for the rest of the campaign season — to help him win a sixth term in the Senate.

In a gauzy, five-minute YouTube video released Wednesday, McCain looks directly at the camera and says: "My opponent, Representative Ann Kirkpatrick, is a good person. But if Hillary Clinton is elected president, Arizona will need a senator who will act as a check — not a rubber stamp — for the White House."

John McCain: 'Arizona's Future' Campaign 2016 Play Video4:51

Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) warns that if Hillary Clinton is elected president, "Arizona will need a senator who will act as a check ... for the White House." (John McCain)
In two sentences, McCain is betting that people believe Clinton is going to win in November. And that many voters in Arizona who don't like Trump aren't keen on Clinton either. (A recent national Washington Post-ABC News poll found a record number of Americans dislike Clinton, though she's still more popular than Trump.)

McCain is pulling from a playbook Republicans used two decades ago to ditch the Republican presidential nominee. Before McCain, the highest-profile Republican to deliver that message was House Speaker Paul D. Ryan, who sent a fundraising email in August that read, "If we fail to protect our majority in Congress, we could be handing President Hillary Clinton a blank check." It looked to The Post's Jenna Johnson and Karen Tumulty that Ryan might have predicted Clinton would win in a landslide (because only a historic Clinton landslide would be enough to put the GOP House majority in peril).

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Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.), who also won his primary Tuesday, said something similar in June: "I feel deeply that no matter who is elected president of the United States," he told MSNBC, "we are to need a Senate that has people willing to check and balance that."

Could this work? Maybe. It has before.

Going back to McCain, his strategy is stacked on a lot of "ifs" — if Clinton still looks headed for a win in two months. If Arizona voters dislike her enough to elect McCain as a counterweight. If he doesn't upset his GOP base by essentially ditching Trump two months out from the election. If McCain can successfully distance himself from Trump after tepidly sticking by him during the primaries. Kirkpatrick's campaign has no intention of letting voters forget that McCain continued to say he'll vote for Trump after Trump got tangled with the family of a fallen soldier and a million other controversies.

"John McCain has pledged to support Donald Trump over 50 times," the narrator in a recent Kirkpatrick ad says.

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It also doesn't leave McCain a lot of room to pivot down the road should the 2016 presidential winds shift in Trump's favor.

[Three very real scenarios for how the Republican Party could break up with Donald Trump]


Then again, McCain may not have a lot of other options. Campaigning as a bulwark to a President Clinton might be Republicans' life raft in the event of a Democratic wave, just as many Republicans saved themselves 20 years ago — by spending the race's final weeks campaigning as a bulwark against (another) President Clinton. It worked; Clinton won the White House, but Republicans kept their majorities in Congress.

Republicans like McCain think they see the writing on the wall for Trump much earlier — a whole two months before Election Day. Embracing this strategy is a risk — but at this point, one they seem willing to take.

I don't see this story as nearly the big deal this writer seems to think it is. Nobody running for congress or senate is linking themselves to either Presidential candidate. Democrats up and down the line are touting two things.. their own record and their dislike (fear) for Trump... Republicans are doing much the same thing, their own record and their dislike for Clinton (or in some cases, Obama and the continuation of his policies)..

LOL Nobody likes anybody! Cracks me up.

What a freakin mess this election season is.

I like you Daman.

Back at ya.

Here are the presidential debate moderators

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/presidential-debate-moderators-132954386.html

The Commission on Presidential Debates on Friday morning announced the moderators for the general-election debates.

NBC "Nightly News" anchor Lester Holt will moderate the first presidential debate, which will take place at Hofstra University in New York on September 26.

ABC News correspondent Martha Raddatz and CNN anchor Anderson Cooper will moderate the second presidential debate, scheduled for October 9 at Washington University in St. Louis.

And "Fox News Sunday" anchor Chris Wallace will moderate the third presidential debate, which will be held at the University of Nevada at Las Vegas on October 19.

CBS News correspondent Elaine Quijano will moderate the vice-presidential debate on October 4 at Longwood University in Virginia.

"These journalists bring extensive experience to the job of moderating and understand the importance of using expanded time periods effectively," Frank J. Fahrenkopf Jr. and Michael D. McCurry, the chairs of the Commission on Presidential Debates, said in a statement.

The statement added: "The formats chosen for this year's debates are designed to build on the formats introduced in 2012, which focused big blocks of time on major domestic and foreign topics. We are grateful for their willingness to moderate and confident that the public will learn more about the candidates and the issues as a result."

Wallace also issued a statement about being chosen as a moderator.

"I am very excited to have the opportunity," he said in the statement. "Personally, I'm excited. I'm also excited because I will be the first FOX reporter to ever moderate a presidential debate so I think that's quite a statement for our news organization."

Julius Genachowski.

Who is he?

A longtime friend of President Obama, now he is the chairman of the Federal Communications Commission, having been appointed by President Obama in 2009.

In 2008 he was Chairperson of the Obama presidential campaign's Technology, Media and Telecommunications Policy Working Group, which created the Obama Technology and Innovation Plan, and advised and guided the campaign's innovative use of technology and the Internet for grassroots engagement and participation, and co-led the Technology, Innovation, and Government Reform Group for President-Elect Obama's Transition Team.

Why?

Because he and Obama go back a long way, all the way to their Columbia College days.

In The Bridge: The Life and Rise of Barack Obama, David Remnick related that after being elected president of the Harvard Law Review, Obama selected people Genchowski for a "masthead job."

Wikipedia: "Genachowski....entered Columbia College of Columbia University...[and] earned a Bachelor of Arts in History (1985) magna [censored] laude. He was an Editor of the Columbia Daily Spectator. After working in Washington, D.C., for former New York Congressman Chuck Schumer


http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/gaynor/121015


Who was he married to:

Martha Raddatz 1991 - 1997

Another Candy Crowley....

um....ok? Could you please tell me why this is significant?

Trump supporter made a "warning" about taco trucks everywhere.

I'm hungry now. I wish there was a taco truck around this area.

My bad Swish, I didn't notice the article was from 2012.

However the author questions Martha Raddatz.

Ah ok. Word bro.

What do you think about the mods? At least on the surface, it appears to be a pretty balanced group.

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This pretty much sums up how I feel this time around.

Lol, this chick is a piece of work.

FBI: Aide destroyed 2 of Clinton's phones by 'breaking them in half or hitting them with a hammer'

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/fbi-aide-destroyed-two-clintons-194923529.html

An aide to former President Bill Clinton destroyed two of Hillary Clinton's phones by using physical force, according to documents released by the FBI on Friday.
The FBI said in a report that the aide, Justin Cooper, recalled "two instances where he destroyed Clinton's old mobile phones by breaking them in half or hitting them with a hammer."
Clinton used a number of phones while serving as secretary of state. The FBI said it identified 13 mobile devices used to possibly send emails using Clinton's private email server.

Huma Abedin, a top aide to Clinton, told the FBI that Clinton was known to use a new phone for a few days and then switch back to an older model that she understood how to use better.
When this would happen, aides would help transfer her SIM cards. The FBI report said that "the whereabouts of Clinton's devices would frequently become unknown once she transitioned to a new device."
The Clinton campaign released a statement Friday saying it was "pleased" the FBI released documents related to the email probe.

Meeeeehhhh

I actually don't have a problem with this. She has the highest level of security exposure only behind Obama. I can understand destroying burner phones for security reasons. It looks bad on the surface, but unfortunately with this entire investigation we can only see so much.

That we're talking about politicians having burner phones is weird.

I think this is killer - Trump, Time Magazine cover:

thats about right lol

CNN pisses me off. Yesterday they actually acted like journalists for the first time ever and exposed Pastor Mark Burns as a fraud. They RARELY actually go hard after someone. Yesterday was kind of shocking and Pastor Burns wasn't expecting it to say the least. MSNBC and Fox News are obviously polar ends on the bias spectrum, but at least they try to get information (for their sides). CNN just beats around the bush.

https://youtu.be/rbIGBCcfKZg

If I was a politician I'd love to go on CNN and have softballs thrown at me. Free TV press.

I have a real major beef when it comes to media and religion.

While I have my own personal vendetta against ALL religions, I feel like all media does is bash these guys.

Look, there are some cases where it's warranted, like this pastor, and then the other pastor in that whole Obama situation in the 08 election.

But In general, I'm like damn, where's the positive stories at?

How come nobody reports on the great things the Christian groups are doing with these Syrian refugees here in America? Even Fox News isn't giving them credit on that.

Where's the coverage on the soup kitchen and the toy giveaways they always do?

Everything is so freaking negative lately.

It's going to get worse as the "alt right" disassociates itself with religion on the right.

Well there's two problems with that.

First, the 'alt-right' aren't disassociating with religion. They actually use that as a valid excuse for their bigotry.

Second, well...... This might [censored] people off, but you know how people go "Muslims must speak out against terrorism" or "blacks must speak out against gang violence" or "Hispanics must speak out against illegal immigration"?

Well, there isn't a whole lot of the religious right speaking out against the alt-right.

I mean damn. At least come out and say "don't use religion as an excuse for racism". However, we Can't even get that much out of people, it appears.

So while I certainly can't claim that the religious right supports the alt-right, I can certainly make the case that they don't exactly mind the alt-right associating themselves with Christianity.

By the way, how in the hell did the term 'alt-right' even come about? My first time ever hearing the term was like... 2 weeks ago.

+1...JMHO, misery sells...money.....Catholic faith bashed, correctly for gay priests and cover up......BUT, not praised for millions of faithful priest and sisters....Mother Theresa, so called living saint during her life...now will be saint...check overhead expenses of Catholic charities against ANT other organization...check which faith educates, feeds, provides hospitals,....look it up....their are lots of good people in world, they just don't sell much stuff....Hillary, a liar/perjurer/powerhungry or Trump, a hollow know nothing about the world except making money....WOW, what a choice...and these are best we have...WOW. Says something, have you ever been to British museum seen great empires....we are all collections of dust...pray for best, hope for the best.

The alt-right? Did someone make up a new group for hillary to bash?

Nah, they've always been there. Google up on them.

So the alt-right has no specific ideology and is believed to be largely an online movement made up of meme's. So it's kids with a keyboard.

That's so awesome. If you don't have a villain make one up. Unbelievable.

That's what that is? A bunch of E-thugs?

Maaaaannnnnnnnnn I'm disappointed. I was thinking alt-right was some hardcore killa movement.

maybe not villains... but pretty annoying.

#alt-right/delete

For the love of god can somebody please explain what the alt-right is?

I'm not getting anything clear on searches.

Seems pretty new. Someone called in to Beck the other day saying that it was something that got started on 4chan, then ended up taking on some kind of life of it's own.

Still rather unclear.

Its 12 year old boys who are angry and bored.

Check YouTube bro