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so, that's not a good sign He's a rookie third round pick. I would be shocked if he was ready. He could probably do the Dak Prescott and not throw a pass over five yards.
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What about trying to bring in Foles from the chiefs? For what?
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LOL, that's awesome! I'm going to borrow that statement when I get into an argument w/my wife.   It's been nice knowing ya; please send a PM to the Refs with an address that we can send flowers to 
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Will Josh McCown be an upgrade? I certainly got the feeling that Cleveland’s Week 2 opponent, Baltimore, thinks so. What little we saw of Robert Griffin III on Sunday didn’t reflect a whole lot of progress. The coaches I talked to who watched his tape said Griffin’s accuracy issues remain, and he looked more skittish in the face of contact than he was before. Based on the cost of quarterbacks these days and the time Hue Jackson’s staff has already spent on him, it may make sense for Cleveland to invest the $6.75 million it’d take to keep Griffin (a $750K roster bonus is due in March) for 2017, just to ride out the process. But it’s getting harder and harder to envision Griffin making it as a starting QB, particularly considering how good Jackson is at developing them.
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....he is 28-29 years old, was a former #1 pick.
So is Brady Quinn (ok, he's 31... but, same difference). Actually. that's not a bad idea - somebody call Quinn and bring him in! You meant to put that in Purple right? LOL
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No, I didn't, despite how it may seem.
At this point, I'd take Frye, Quinn, & McCoy on this roster in a heartbeat. Holcomb, Anderson, too.
I'd still keep McCown above any of them, but I'd take any/all of them ahead of Kessler.
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so, that's not a good sign He's a rookie third round pick. I would be shocked if he was ready. He could probably do the Dak Prescott and not throw a pass over five yards. I took it as he's not even ready to be on the gameday roster. That's different than starting/playing well. I'd trade him for Dak still though.
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wentz is going against the bears next. i heard they have a worse secondary than ours. which is mind boggling It's slightly better when healthy .. I played Will Fuller in my 2 FF leagues I have him on last week because there top 3 corners are out .. If there not back this week .. It MAY be another EASY week for Wentz .. Maybe the Bears will have some SEMBLANCE OF A PASS RUSH ..
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Heck! id rather have Pryor QB.
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so, that's not a good sign He's a rookie third round pick. I would be shocked if he was ready. He could probably do the Dak Prescott and not throw a pass over five yards. I took it as he's not even ready to be on the gameday roster. That's different than starting/playing well. That's fine. He's a third round rookie QB. The #1 overall pick was inactive.
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so, that's not a good sign He's a rookie third round pick. I would be shocked if he was ready. He could probably do the Dak Prescott and not throw a pass over five yards. I took it as he's not even ready to be on the gameday roster. That's different than starting/playing well. That's fine. He's a third round rookie QB. The #1 overall pick was inactive. Would you be concerned at all if you were a LA fan? He's 3rd behind Keenum and Mannion. I'd be a little concerned.
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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That's fine. He's a third round rookie QB. The #1 overall pick was inactive.
Would you be concerned at all if you were a LA fan? He's 3rd behind Keenum and Mannion. I'd be a little concerned. I would not be concerned. This was their plan all along and they are sticking to it. I would be more concerned with the fact that the people devising the plans are Jeff Fisher and Les Snead.
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That's fine. He's a third round rookie QB. The #1 overall pick was inactive.
Would you be concerned at all if you were a LA fan? He's 3rd behind Keenum and Mannion. I'd be a little concerned. I would not be concerned. This was their plan all along and they are sticking to it. I would be more concerned with the fact that the people devising the plans are Jeff Fisher and Les Snead. I did not see anything about the plan being to sit him for the year ... or at least initially. If that's the case, then so be it. I'm also biased because Goff seemed totally overwhelmed in Hard Knocks.
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I like McCown and he is pretty good. There is only one problem with him...He doesn't win.  Except that being a QB isn't the same as being a pitcher in baseball, or a goalie in hockey. They are defensive players. It is up to the D to shut down a opponent. Crediting wins to a QB is foolish. JMO, but my opinion in this case is correct. End of story.
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so, that's not a good sign He's a rookie third round pick. I would be shocked if he was ready. He could probably do the Dak Prescott and not throw a pass over five yards. It's not really fair to compare to Prescott (I don't think you were but, I know some on here already think he is going to be star and we whiffed for not grabbing him. Maybe he is maybe he isn't...its early.). Anyway, Kessler has not had 1st team snaps. He has been in and out of preseason games with a revolving door of non-starters or people who didn't make the team. Prescott has been taking 1st team snaps since Romo got hurt. As Kessler continues to take the 2nd team snaps it will help. That said, I wouldn't be surprised if Hogan is promoted (as 3rd QB) once they feel he is making headway into the playbook.
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Dak also has the best o-line in the NFL protecting him, jus sayin
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Dak also has the best o-line in the NFL protecting him, jus sayin And they don't ask him to throw more than five yards down the field.
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Crediting wins to a QB is foolish. Gotta disagree. Football often comes down to the very end of games. There just seem to be some QBs that get it done, and some that don't. Easily the most important position in football, having a QB that performs when their backs are against the wall is key. IMO it's one of the reasons a guy like Josh McCown is Josh McCown
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Not the same. If it was QBs would have won loss records just like pitchers and goalies from way back when.
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not that I ever thought Kessler COULD play in the NFL I haven't heard any talk, but it seems to me we might need to go through the scrap heap of FA qbs and at least get somebody who has thrown a football in a few NFL games. Dennis Northcutt, and Kevin Johnson are available.
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not that I ever thought Kessler COULD play in the NFL I haven't heard any talk, but it seems to me we might need to go through the scrap heap of FA qbs and at least get somebody who has thrown a football in a few NFL games. Dennis Northcutt, and Kevin Johnson are available. I remember those last few games of the 2000 season (I believe). what a circus
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Dak also has the best o-line in the NFL protecting him, jus sayin And they don't ask him to throw more than five yards down the field. That is the second time you have said that. Please stop deliberately misleading people. Dak threw 15 passes last Sunday that were farther than 10 yards, never mind 5 yards. I get that you love Kessler and are trying to make excuses for the Browns, but the reality of the situation is that most everyone thought more of Dak BEFORE the draft and that thus far, Dak is seemingly farther ahead than Kessler. Lies and excuses will not change that.
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peen, it is a team game. No doubt.
However, you can't diminish just how important the QB position is. That has been stated by NFL execs for years. Our own FO guys and HC have said the same thing. So, unless you think our guys are clueless, you might wanna back off on that statement.
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I guess it's how you label things. What is it that the FO is doing? Some could say "building for the future." No problem w/that. However, if a poster says we might want to play Kessler because we should see what we got, than that poster is saying "we should tank the season?"
That's freaking odd.
And I suppose I have a real issue how you--and some others--are constantly bad-mouthing Brown's fans, as if they are the real problem. The Browns are damn lucky to have such a loyal fan base and I am sick of hearing guys like you bash the fans! You trash people on these boards constantly, are they not fans? Kessler is not close to being ready, playing him would be not using your best QB. Thus, to me, it would be like tanking. Also, nowhere did I say or think the fans are the problem. In the scheme of things they have nothing to do with what goes on with the team. You like to put words in others mouths to make yourself look so intelligent.
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You are full of crap. You trash other posters in almost every post you make. I am tired of listening to your hateful takes.
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No, he doesn't trash every poster one this board. He just trashes you after the ridiculous things you write. Hateful takes? Look in the freakin' mirror.
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He does. Go ahead and search his posts. He is always bad mouthing people.
Tired of him bashing Brown's fans.
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Tired of him bashing Brown's fans. How ironic.
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I make a ton of posts, Memphis. I talk a lot of football. He does not!
I do bash individual posters, but I also post a lot more football than not. That dude slams Brown's fans on almost every single post he makes.
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Why respond with "I'm tired of him basing Browns' fans?" Who cares how many posts you make?!
Seems, at it's mildest, disingenuous. Whatever, no biggie to me....you inherently called yourself out on this one.
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Yeah great. You are right. I suck and you and he are awesome.
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These replies are always the best on so many levels.
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I'll say this about Vers, he's just as likely to compliment a post as he is to bash one. He's almost normal. 
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Just checkin' in, seeing if there was any news on Josh. I googled him, nothing so far.
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Just checkin' in, seeing if there was any news on Josh. I googled him, nothing so far. Michael Silver ‏@MikeSilver 3m3 minutes ago The Browns are bracing themselves for possible bad news on Josh McCown's shoulder. Won't know for sure until the morning. @nflnetwork
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if i was to guess having seen some the hits/falls..I'd say separated shoulder. hopefully its just a bruise and he will be back to holding the ball and being skittish in the face of pressure next week in miami
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Man, I have total respect for Josh. Dude is the ultimate team player and warrior and just listening to his press conferences you can tell how important it is for him. I really hope he is ok and that we protect him better. He doesn't deserve being hit as many times as he was.
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McCown was definitely better than Griffin, but he really makes some boneheaded decisions and still holds the ball too long.
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