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More fuel for the fire, go media!

Damn media. How dare they report on this...

I have no issue reporting on this, but when police killings is all they report on... that's when an issue arises. There are a slew of "positive" police stories, so and so saved so and so from whatever, police officer saves choking child... I mean the topics are endless it seems. But we only hear when so and so shot so and so and because such and such.

Damn media. How dare they report on this...

its the way they report it .. I heard about this today by watching First Take where they said .. White cop shoots unarmed black man while his arms were in the air , our sympathy and prayers go out to the family.. First after watching the video which I admit doesn't look well for the police, shows a man with arms raised walking toward his SUV (doesn't seem to be what the police want him to do) then he appears to lowers his arms and reach in Vehicle at which time he's tased and shot at the same time .. To make that makes me wonder what he was doing to be shot simultaneously. Again.. When I'm pulled over it's sir or ma'am and whatever I'm asked .. I will not be walking to my vehicle and my hands will not be reaching in it. Period

[quote=Tulsa]The lady police officer shot him, I'm not sure why unless she thought he was reaching for something inside that vehicle. The guy had stopped the vehicle in the middle of the road and took off running according to witnesses, he even went up to one of them saying he thought the vehicle was going to blow. Two citizens called 911 and police responded to find this guy, he put up his hands but kept walking away, not responding to their order to stop.

You can hear the helicopter pilot refer to the officer as Betty Jo, because it's his wife. At least you can in the unedited version of the clip.

http://www.kjrh.com/news/local-news/tuls...-fatal-shooting

On the surface and without a lot of the facts, just what you see does not look good for the officer. Why if they tazed him did they feel the need to shoot him? It appears to happen at the same time? She's a 9 year vet of the force and was with the Sheriff's department before that. [/quote

From NY Daily News
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/tulsa-fatally-shot-terence-crutcher-pcp-article-1.2799465.

My input-I saw the video and during that 1 minute I saw nothing that would justify using deadly force-a small portion is not seen around when they taser the subject because of the orientation of the video from the helicopter

The Tulsa police officer who fatally shot Terence Crutcher after his car broke down in the middle of the street thought the unarmed man was behaving erratically and that he may have been under the influence of PCP, the cop’s attorney said.

Officer Betty Shelby, who is seen on police video firing a single fatal shot at close range at Crutcher, had recently undergone drug-recognition training and believed Crutcher was high on the dissociative sedative, attorney Scott Wood told the Tulsa World.

Video of the moments leading up to the shooting, however, shows Crutcher, 40, complying with officers' orders and walking slowly towards his SUV with his hands high in the air.

I find it hard to believe they would walk the guy to his vehicle if they were concerned about him.. If I'm a cop I would never walk a guy to his vehicle where he might be able to get a gun.. It might also be noted I read this man pleaded no contest few years back to a carrying a concealed weapon and resisting arrest.. You think they may have known this beforehand?

Under the same circumstances, anyone other than a cop would have been charged with murder by now.

Under the same circumstances, anyone other than a cop would have been charged with murder by now.

Facts? FACTS??? We don't need no stinking Facts to judge!

We need audio to go along with the video before we jump the gun and make up our minds. If the cops told him to go to his car then they are dead wrong. If they told him to stand still and he ignored them then he got what he asked for. The problem is that right now we don't have all the facts.

doesn't seem like he resisted much, meanwhile, a guy goes and stabs two people, eats their faces, and RESIST the cops...

Just so we're clear, this guy has his hands up, still get shot.

over a stalled SUV?

que the "don't resist" crowd.

doesn't seem like he resisted much, meanwhile, a guy goes and stabs two people, eats their faces, and RESIST the cops...

doesn't get shot.

just to remind the board....the 911 call was because witnesses said the guy thought the car was gonna explode.

not that he was being violent.

not that he threatened to shoot anybody.

none of that.

but ok.

unarmed blacks get shot. armed whites shoot people in a church, gets taken to burger king.

nothing to see here folks, move along.

I wanna hear the stats.

Wow Mox, its like 2 to 1

Just so we're clear, this guy has his hands up, still get shot.

over a stalled SUV?

que the "don't resist" crowd.

doesn't seem like he resisted much, meanwhile, a guy goes and stabs two people, eats their faces, and RESIST the cops...

doesn't get shot.

just to remind the board....the 911 call was because witnesses said the guy thought the car was gonna explode.

not that he was being violent.

not that he threatened to shoot anybody.

none of that.

but ok.

unarmed blacks get shot. armed whites shoot people in a church, gets taken to burger king.

nothing to see here folks, move along.

Here is where we disagree bro. I love ya, I really do but if this guy was ignoring the things the police were telling him and he got shot IT"S HIS OWN DAMN FAULT. I don't give a crap what color he is. If he is to damn stupid to behave himself he deserves what he got. No if, and or butts about it. If the cops are telling you to do something and if your to dam stupid to listen then one only needs to look in the mirror to see where they screwed up. If he followed the cops orders and they shot him any way then it's a whole other story. That's why I want to hear audio.

With the bomb situations going on elsewhere in the country, could the police have thought there was a bomb in the car?

There was mention of a possible explosion. Did that make it onto the 911 call? And how was it relayed to the officers on scene?

If they thought he was going to set off a bomb in the vehicle, and they told him not to approach, I can see shooting him.

so no following = death sentence?

so how come the guy eating faces didn't get the death sentence?

also, mox

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-police-shootings-race-20160711-story.html

2.5 times more likely to get shot than white.

again, you guys have more raw kills because you're the majority.

again i've said this, if you took all the black people and moved them to china, chinese people will be shot more because they ARE the majority.

per capita rates is the standard.