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Question for everyone, do you think political ads work anymore? I question how well ads in general work anymore. I feel that we've all trained our brains to block out ads. We see through BS negative ads as what they are. I think it's because most of us are so spammed with ads during sporting events that we don't even give them a second thought. We post on sites like these during commercial breaks, talk with friends / family or just check our phones / tablets periodically.

I don't think they change anybody's mind. I think they only serve to reinforce that which we already believe.

If your candidate runs an attack ad, you think, "Yea, go get'em.. " If the opponent runs an attack ad, you think, "Look at that lying piece of crap talk about my candidate."


LOL I pretty much tune them all out. Especially those on Facebook,, Oh man, it's crazy. Almost makes Facebook unreadable.

LOL, I saw one the other day where a guy was questioning where Obama was during 9/11, he wanted to know why he wasn't in the oval office doing his job.. I damned near lost it LOL


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For a different perspective take a look at who the candidates will be surrounding themselves with. Forget popularity and such, just look at who each will have to do the day to day work in the trenches.

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I saw one the other day where a guy was questioning where Obama was during 9/11, he wanted to know why he wasn't in the oval office doing his job..


That clip was from a recent episode of the Daily Show.

'Correspondent' Jordan Klepper was doing man on the streets interviews with Ohioans at a Trump rally. He asked another person (a middle-aged woman) where she got her news. Her answer:

"from my friends and family on facebook."

I kid you not. You should go to Comedy Central and chase down the entire clip. That dude you mentioned was on the clip several times. He''s hysterical.... and he's our neighbor, D.


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For a different perspective take a look at who the candidates will be surrounding themselves with. Forget popularity and such, just look at who each will have to do the day to day work in the trenches.


That should influence one's vote almost as much as the principal candidate.

Good point.


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While Trump has not given serious hints about whom he would choose for his cabinet, he relies on counsel from New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani and Sen. Jeff Sessions of Alabama, among others.

For economic advice, Trump has largely surrounded himself with investors and businessmen rather than economists. Hedge fund manager John Paulson, energy baron Harold Hamm, and investors Wilbur Ross and Tom Barrack all serve on Trump's economic advisory team, among others.

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After Bitter Primary Fight, Ted Cruz Backs Donald Trump

After a bitter primary battle that culminated with Ted Cruz being booed off the stage at the Republican National Convention, the Texas senator says he will vote for Donald Trump.

In a 741-word Facebook post Friday, Cruz wrote that he made the decision because he wants to "keep his word" to vote for the Republican nominee and because he finds Hillary Clinton "wholly unacceptable."

http://www.npr.org/2016/09/23/495211893/after-bitter-primary-fight-ted-cruz-to-back-donald-trump

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We all have one chance, just one, in our lifetimes, to vote for a President who is not a Politician.

What do we have to lose? Lets give him a try and forever know we did not miss this once in a lifetime chance.

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What do we have to lose?


If you're a straight white Christian male? Not much.

If you're anything but a straight white Christian male? Lots.

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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
We all have one chance, just one, in our lifetimes, to vote for a President who is not a Politician.

What do we have to lose? Lets give him a try and forever know we did not miss this once in a lifetime chance.


40...I corrected it for ya (see below):

We all have one chance, just one, to vote for the first woman President of the USA.

What do we have to lose? Lets give her a try and forever know we made history with Obama and now we can make history with Clinton.

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After Bitter Primary Fight, Ted Cruz Backs Donald Trump

After a bitter primary battle that culminated with Ted Cruz being booed off the stage at the Republican National Convention, the Texas senator says he will vote for Donald Trump.

In a 741-word Facebook post Friday, Cruz wrote that he made the decision because he wants to "keep his word" to vote for the Republican nominee and because he finds Hillary Clinton "wholly unacceptable."

http://www.npr.org/2016/09/23/495211893/after-bitter-primary-fight-ted-cruz-to-back-donald-trump


Pretty lame that he has just now, so late in the day, come out to endorse Trump. This smells of a political move to me. In reality, he doesn't support Trump...he just wants to be reelected and knows if he doesn't back the Rep nominee he risks his own political career. Pretty spineless and weak, to be honest.

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Kind of like Bernie.


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What do we have to lose?


If you're not a straight white Christian male? Not much.

If you're anything but a straight white Christian male? Lots.


You might wanna reread that, you pretty much said that if you're not a straight white christian male you have both not much and lots to lose.


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Originally Posted By: PDXBrownsFan
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After Bitter Primary Fight, Ted Cruz Backs Donald Trump

After a bitter primary battle that culminated with Ted Cruz being booed off the stage at the Republican National Convention, the Texas senator says he will vote for Donald Trump.

In a 741-word Facebook post Friday, Cruz wrote that he made the decision because he wants to "keep his word" to vote for the Republican nominee and because he finds Hillary Clinton "wholly unacceptable."

http://www.npr.org/2016/09/23/495211893/after-bitter-primary-fight-ted-cruz-to-back-donald-trump


Pretty lame that he has just now, so late in the day, come out to endorse Trump. This smells of a political move to me. In reality, he doesn't support Trump...he just wants to be reelected and knows if he doesn't back the Rep nominee he risks his own political career. Pretty spineless and weak, to be honest.


Naturally it was a political move, and I'm greatly disappointed by it.


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Thank you. Long couple of weeks at work, and I've been battling the flu.

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What do we have to lose?


If you're a straight white Christian male? Not much.

If you're anything but a straight white Christian male? Lots.


That seems a bit xenophobic to me.

Trump is only for "straight, white, Christian males" Really?

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Kind of like Bernie.


Bernie conceded when he knew he was going to lose. Cruz disrespected Trump at the RNC.

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Kind of like Bernie.


Bernie conceded when he knew he was going to lose. Cruz disrespected Trump at the RNC.


Bernie sold out at the DNC. He is a chump who dicked over his cult following.


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Thank you. Long couple of weeks at work, and I've been battling the flu.


That can't be fun, get well soon!


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Xenophobia
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intense or irrational dislike or fear of people from other countries.


Name which candidate wants to enact ridiculous walls, wants to racially profile American citizens, and a giant ban on individuals based of religion.

Edit: I'm not afraid of straight Christian white males. I am one.

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If you're a straight white Christian male? Not much.

If you're anything but a straight white Christian male? Lots.


Illegal immigration is a problem for the u.s. If you cant admit that, we shouldn't even talk.

So, a wall would help.

Racial profiling? Nah, more like just flat out profiling. It's nice you add the "racial" part. You think it helps make your point. But, in actuality, it doesn't.

Profiling IS how things get done in this world. Racial profiling isn't a good thing, no doubt. Profiling can be a good thing. I'll have to explain more about that Sunday afternoon. Or, if I'm too bummed by the Browns game, Monday afternoon.

A giant ban on individuals based on religion? Not for it. I don't care what religion you are..........wait, to some extent, I do. One can't just claim "I'm this religion" and get a pass.

Trump has backed his rhetoric back. Instead of letting anyone and everyone in, we should be doing some serious background checks. Problem is, how do you background check people from over seas that have no background to check?

You tell me.

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Google "Toledo Syrian Refugees".

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Google "Toledo Syrian Refugees".


Neat. Google "european countries rethinking syrian refugees".

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Wonder if either candidate will discuss shady deals like the Bayer-Monsanto merger.

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Arch, we're going to disagree here.

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Check to see if either contributed donations. If they donated to either, most likely donated to both, then I doubt it.

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I don't think people realize how big of a deal with was too. It's kind of disturbing and screws farmers over royally. It gives China leverage in the future.

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Wonder if either candidate will discuss shady deals like the Bayer-Monsanto merger.


Are you telling me that bread that can cure headaches is coming?


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Originally Posted By: RocketOptimist
Check to see if either contributed donations. If they donated to either, most likely donated to both, then I doubt it.


It scares me how much the government and businesses could get away with right now. Everyone is so focused on the election that they ignore everything else.

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Kind of like Bernie.


Bernie conceded when he knew he was going to lose. Cruz disrespected Trump at the RNC.


Bernie sold out at the DNC. He is a chump who dicked over his cult following.


If Bernie had not done as he promised all along and conceded after losing then move to support the Dem nominee, there would have been riots and probably bloodshed when the DNC emails came out. If Hillary somehow manages to win, she owes it all to Bernie. ALL.

With that said I agree with your statement.

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DEBATE RULES: NO COUGHING BREAKS




**Exclusive**
Fri Sep 23 2016 11:30:40 ET


If presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton slips into a coughing fit or any other medical crisis during Monday's high-stakes debate, she will have to power through, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned!

"There are no commercial breaks," a commission source explains. "Period."

Debate moderator Lester Holt does not have the authority to cut away from the stage during the epic 90-minute showdown. And microphone audio for either of the candidates is not to be manipulated.

Clinton has experienced severe coughing episodes throughout the election year. During a Labor Day campaign stop she suffered a 4-minute choking marathon.

Monday's throwdown could top out at 100 million viewers, making it the biggest political event in history.

EDITOR'S NOTE: The presidential debate commission settled an early flashpoint when Clinton demanded a step-stool at the podium to add height to her 5'4" frame. Campaign Chairman John Podesta expressed concern that Hillary would be dwarfed by 6'2" Trump. The request was quickly rejected. The commission is allowing for a custom-made podium, which will accommodate the difference in stature.


http://drudgereport.com/flashny.htm


The one thing she can't lie about, she's 5'4.

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Originally Posted By: RocketOptimist
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intense or irrational dislike or fear of people from other countries.


Name which candidate wants to enact ridiculous walls, wants to racially profile American citizens, and a giant ban on individuals based of religion.

Edit: I'm not afraid of straight Christian white males. I am one.


I would like to see something on the southern border, as a means of slowing down people and drugs pouring across the border.

I don't think that a wall is the only step we should take, though.

Yes, we need a physical barrier, but we also need far more manpower on the border, and a better method for identifying people who are in this country illegally, especially when they are apprehended for other crimes.

Racial profiling sounds horrible, except for the fact that it works. One of the most idiotic things we have done in this country is to go politically correct when it comes to our security. For example, not all young men of Middle eastern descent are terrorists, but there are currently more terrorists who are young men of Middle Easter descent than of any other demographic. Pulling the 85 year old White or Black grandmother off of a plane to be searched is idiotic. If a certain demographic is committing most a certain, specific type of crime, then pay attention to that group. Same thing for all other crime. People were offended by stop and frisk in New York, but it cut crime dramatically. Do you stop the 50 year old White guy? No. Why not? Because the odds are against him being involved in street crime. Conversely, if a 50 year old White guy is driving around an area known for drug sales, over and over again ..... he's probably not just taking in the sights. If the police officer runs his plates, and finds that the guy lives in a very upscale area, then he is probably not looking to hang out with friends. I suppose it could happen, but the odds are against it.

We don't want to offend people. and that's admirable, until it becomes stupid. We know that in certain areas, certain groups of people are more likely than others to commit crimes. In other areas, it could be a different group. Back to your statement about religions ..... right now the person most likely to try to kill large numbers of people are from a certain part of the world. Let's not pretend that this isn't the case. Now I do not agree with just shutting the borders ..... but man, bringing in tons of Syrian refugees, which Hillary wants to do, without a system that allows us to vet them, is the height of stupidity. We absolutely need a way of vetting them, and then tracking them if it becomes necessary. Once we have a workable system in place, then fine, let some people in. However, let's not put our own citizens at risk just so it looks like we're doing something.


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Question, if we go with racial profiling where does it end before we become like the countries we rebuke for their policies? If you want to become the white Christian version of the Middle East or like Russia then call it what it is. If you want a police state, then just admit it.

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DEBATE RULES: NO COUGHING BREAKS




**Exclusive**
Fri Sep 23 2016 11:30:40 ET


If presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton slips into a coughing fit or any other medical crisis during Monday's high-stakes debate, she will have to power through, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned!

"There are no commercial breaks," a commission source explains. "Period."

Debate moderator Lester Holt does not have the authority to cut away from the stage during the epic 90-minute showdown. And microphone audio for either of the candidates is not to be manipulated.

Clinton has experienced severe coughing episodes throughout the election year. During a Labor Day campaign stop she suffered a 4-minute choking marathon.

Monday's throwdown could top out at 100 million viewers, making it the biggest political event in history.

EDITOR'S NOTE: The presidential debate commission settled an early flashpoint when Clinton demanded a step-stool at the podium to add height to her 5'4" frame. Campaign Chairman John Podesta expressed concern that Hillary would be dwarfed by 6'2" Trump. The request was quickly rejected. The commission is allowing for a custom-made podium, which will accommodate the difference in stature.


http://drudgereport.com/flashny.htm


The one thing she can't lie about, she's 5'4.

This is good. Let them get out there and debate. The last thing we want to see is things to heat up, then they cut away for a break and allow the candidates to regain their composure, go over talking points, and give the viewers a reason to switch over to MNF. Screw that. This is going to be fun.

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As much as I'm trying to understand YTown and Arch, you pretty much nailed it.

The only ones for profiling are the ones who won't be affected by it whatsoever.

It's easy to take a position on something that won't affect your daily life one bit.

YTown and Arxh have to be super honest with themselves. If all three of us are walking down the street together, and profiling is legal, guess who's getting stopped.

Not them two.


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Insurance
beer
cars
military
viagra
pizza
cable / satellite
phones

Anything I'm missing commercial wise?


Unless it's the superbowl I wouldn't know because I don't watch them. Heck if I had DVR back in the day I would have fast forwarded my own damn commercials smile


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Lets change that up just for fun.

YTown, GMdawg, and Swish are all walking down the street together, and pass a group of beautiful young ladies. Which two are going to get profiled and turned down by the ladies?


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You and I.

Cause we're married, and YTown is single lol


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Oh crap profiling does suck LMAO


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Wait a minute, wait just a minute here!

Mox posted the stats from the Washington Post from 2009 that showed Blacks in NYC committed 75 percent of all shootings, 70 percent of all robberies, 66 percent of all violent crimes while only being 23 percent of the population!

So if you want to get a jump on cleaning up that situation, you suggest we go into White or Jewish neighborhoods and search old fat White women???

I think you want to go to the Black neighborhoods to search people, show a stronger Police presents in those neighborhoods, and get a handle on where the problem lies!
You would be saving a whole lot of Black lives in the process because Blacks also make up most of the victims of these crimes!

Use your head already, PC be damned!

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Don't blame me. Blame the 4th amendment.


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