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Jesus didn't care about politics, he cared about us and where we would spend eternity.


That is correct but we still need to vote and I believe a Christian should vote for the lesser of two evils .. In my mind that's Trump.. Must be in yours also!


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Jesus didn't care about politics, he cared about us and where we would spend eternity.


That is correct but we still need to vote and I believe a Christian should vote for the lesser of two evils .. In my mind that's Trump.. Must be in yours also!


I didn't say WE didn't care about politics! brownie

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I highly doubt that you can find Jesus and 'the lesser of two evils' anywhere near each other. Unless he was about to eradicate the evil.


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Any Christian who doesn't fight this group with every ounce of their strength will answer for it!


When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, "Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her."



You certainly seem to be throwing stones at one, and ignoring the other.

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How could any decent person support a group that stands for...

-Abortion.
-Planned Parenthood's harvesting and selling of human body parts.
-Men using showers and bathrooms with our Daughters.
-A Rapist Bill Clinton back in the White House.
-The Registering to vote of dead people.
-The Registering to vote of Illegal Aliens.

Any Christian or Patriotic American who supports such a group should hang their head in shame!

Any Christian who doesn't fight this group with every ounce of their strength will answer for it!


If Trump weren't such a pig towards women, then maybe I could overlook the rest and support and vote for him. Unfortunately, that is not the case.


Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.

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For crying out loud we are electing a President, not a Pope!



Which is exactly why faith shouldn't even be part of the discussion, criteria or judgement of who is elected. Separation of church and state should mean...religion shouldn't be part of politics!


This has nothing to do with church and state.

He is presidential nominee who's values are far from Christian values and yet Christians are supporting him. He has done and said many things that are not Christ like .....so I do not understand how God fearing, bible thumping Christians are supporting this man. Think if he was the pastor of your church (not you.. just a general statement for everyone). Would it be ok if your paster has been married 3 times or your pastor exploiting poor people to make himself rich? I mean that is not what Christ would want.

Christian Trump supports I ask you... Is the dislike for Hillary, more important then the Christian values?

This article is from a Christian blog, so it is specifically for Christians so its not anti-Christ propaganda.



I don't support Trump at all except on economics but when Hilary is the alternative I am not even left with a choice. To me Hilary is a servant of the Devil himself.


You can't fix stupid but you can destroy ignorance. When you destroy ignorance you remove the justifications for evil. If you want to destroy evil then educate our people. Hate is a tool of the stupid to deal with what they can't understand.
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If Trump weren't such a pig towards women, then maybe I could overlook the rest and support and vote for him.


Don't bother wasting the extra effort. He's never been worth it.

He's always been a pig- and he's not worth your vote.
He's been a pig since the day he was born.

He treats women the same way he treats everyone else who can't get him what he wants.

And even among those who can offer him something he wants... he then treats them in the same way he treats women, after he's gotten what he wants from them.

I was raised in the (Southern Baptist) Christian Faith. I was raised to see people like this for who they are. I will not be fooled by such a person.

I wouldn't trust this man with anything I hold dear.
I wouldn't trust him him with a dime of my money.
I wouldn't trust this man with any promise he ever made to me.
And I SURELY would never trust this man with MY Nation.

Unqualified.
Unfit.
Un-trustworthy.
UN-equipped.
Un-ready.

Never in the history of American politics, has there ever been a candidate who was so out-of-his depth, that HALF of his own party has seen fit to disavow their support of him.

Congressmen.
Heads of Military.
Heads of State.


Dawg... it's not just his 'piggish statements about women' that should give you pause... It's pretty much everything else he's ever said that's on record that should disqualify him from your consideration.


Think about this fact, for 2 solid minutes... without any incoming 'spin':

Of all the viable GOP alternatives available, Donald J. Trump is what the GOP has been left with.


Is this really the best they could offer in 2016?
Forget Hillary Clinton as a Dem response: was there no one on the R side of things that could have been better?

If so.... why didn't it happen? The Elephants had plenty of time and opportunity to see that nothing like this could ever truly take place.

I have my theories, but I'm not ready to share them just yet. You Dawgs would lose you ever-lovin' minds if I did this, at this this juncture. (Besides.... you already hate me for the views I've already shared.)

Trump is a total mess.

He's the dumbest, lamest, most clueless candidate that he GOP could have ever put forth for this political cycle... and he was placed there by rubes who were more passionate than thoughtful. Passionate rubes that bullied past Bush, Rubio, Kasich, et al... and managed to give America an orange-faced, "reverse raccoon-faced" PT Barnum of a candidate whose main claim to fame has always been scamming poor people out of their money.

This has nothing to do with politics, or personal political preference on my part. It has everything to do with watching a Scam Artist running his game on the most important political landscape in the Free World.

For the life of me, I can't understand why so many of you cannot see this man for what he is.

And.... if you try to hit me back with 'Hillary Hate,' trust me- I get what you're saying, up-front.

Still... I NEED to have some one of you... any one of you, to give me a reason to trust this so OBVIOUS a serpent- when everything- and I mean EVERYTING that My Parents, My Family, My instincts, My Southern Baptist Faith informs me about A Godly Life- tells me to mistrust everything about him.

Convince me.

This ma in the embodiment of the very thing I was raised to NOT be.

I was raised to be a gentleman, in ALL areas of life.
I was raised to believe that Character defines the quality of a person... does he help others- or does he help himself, at expense of others?
I was raised to respect all people, regardless of their faith, religious inclinations, or personal life doctrine.
I was raised to believe that women are my sisters, mothers, aunts and grandmothers... not objects to be exploited for personal gain/conquest.

I was raised to respect Human Life.

Donald J. Trump is the absolute antithesis of everything I was taught to believe in.

If any of you were raised to believe in the same Godly things that formed the genesis of my world view, then we have a common place to have a conversation.

If you are the kind of person who can ignore what I've just posted, and want to play word games we with me, you efforts will get you nothing from me.

This man in the antithesis of everything I was raised to believe in.
He is my absolute enemy.

I will do everything I can to resist him, to refute him, to make him him an object of revulsion.


I don't love, support, or even like Hillary Clinton as our next POTUS. But I promise you all... I'll do everything in my power to make certain that Donald J. Trump only sees the inside of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave if or when he's allowed to attain admission as a common citizen, on tour.


Yes... I'll be voting this November.

Because Hillary Clinton is a 'bad dream' for America...
... but Donald Trump would be a nightmare for The Entire World.


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I actively mistrust both Clinton and Trump.

A pox on both their houses.


Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.

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If Trump weren't such a pig towards women, then maybe I could overlook the rest and support and vote for him.


Don't bother wasting the extra effort. He's never been worth it.

He's always been a pig- and he's not worth your vote.
He's been a pig since the day he was born.

He treats women the same way he treats everyone else who can't get him what he wants.

And even among those who can offer him something he wants... he then treats them in the same way he treats women, after he's gotten what he wants from them.

I was raised in the (Southern Baptist) Christian Faith. I was raised to see people like this for who they are. I will not be fooled by such a person.

I wouldn't trust this man with anything I hold dear.
I wouldn't trust him him with a dime of my money.
I wouldn't trust this man with any promise he ever made to me.
And I SURELY would never trust this man with MY Nation.

Unqualified.
Unfit.
Un-trustworthy.
UN-equipped.
Un-ready.

Never in the history of American politics, has there ever been a candidate who was so out-of-his depth, that HALF of his own party has seen fit to disavow their support of him.

Congressmen.
Heads of Military.
Heads of State.


Dawg... it's not just his 'piggish statements about women' that should give you pause... It's pretty much everything else he's ever said that's on record that should disqualify him from your consideration.


Think about this fact, for 2 solid minutes... without any incoming 'spin':

Of all the viable GOP alternatives available, Donald J. Trump is what the GOP has been left with.


Is this really the best they could offer in 2016?
Forget Hillary Clinton as a Dem response: was there no one on the R side of things that could have been better?

If so.... why didn't it happen? The Elephants had plenty of time and opportunity to see that nothing like this could ever truly take place.

I have my theories, but I'm not ready to share them just yet. You Dawgs would lose you ever-lovin' minds if I did this, at this this juncture. (Besides.... you already hate me for the views I've already shared.)

Trump is a total mess.

He's the dumbest, lamest, most clueless candidate that he GOP could have ever put forth for this political cycle... and he was placed there by rubes who were more passionate than thoughtful. Passionate rubes that bullied past Bush, Rubio, Kasich, et al... and managed to give America an orange-faced, "reverse raccoon-faced" PT Barnum of a candidate whose main claim to fame has always been scamming poor people out of their money.

This has nothing to do with politics, or personal political preference on my part. It has everything to do with watching a Scam Artist running his game on the most important political landscape in the Free World.

For the life of me, I can't understand why so many of you cannot see this man for what he is.

And.... if you try to hit me back with 'Hillary Hate,' trust me- I get what you're saying, up-front.

Still... I NEED to have some one of you... any one of you, to give me a reason to trust this so OBVIOUS a serpent- when everything- and I mean EVERYTING that My Parents, My Family, My instincts, My Southern Baptist Faith informs me about A Godly Life- tells me to mistrust everything about him.

Convince me.

This ma in the embodiment of the very thing I was raised to NOT be.

I was raised to be a gentleman, in ALL areas of life.
I was raised to believe that Character defines the quality of a person... does he help others- or does he help himself, at expense of others?
I was raised to respect all people, regardless of their faith, religious inclinations, or personal life doctrine.
I was raised to believe that women are my sisters, mothers, aunts and grandmothers... not objects to be exploited for personal gain/conquest.

I was raised to respect Human Life.

Donald J. Trump is the absolute antithesis of everything I was taught to believe in.

If any of you were raised to believe in the same Godly things that formed the genesis of my world view, then we have a common place to have a conversation.

If you are the kind of person who can ignore what I've just posted, and want to play word games we with me, you efforts will get you nothing from me.

This man in the antithesis of everything I was raised to believe in.
He is my absolute enemy.

I will do everything I can to resist him, to refute him, to make him him an object of revulsion.


I don't love, support, or even like Hillary Clinton as our next POTUS. But I promise you all... I'll do everything in my power to make certain that Donald J. Trump only sees the inside of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave if or when he's allowed to attain admission as a common citizen, on tour.


Yes... I'll be voting this November.

Because Hillary Clinton is a 'bad dream' for America...
... but Donald Trump would be a nightmare for The Entire World.





Dang Dawg! Don't hold back .. Now tell me what you really think of the man!


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its not about a marriage class, it shows trumps character, as a Christian. You have been married 26 years so you know how difficult marriage can be

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Soooo any one see the new trump video?? Wow just wow. And I quote from trump "I did try to F her, but she was married" There are actually worse things he said in the video.

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who cares bro?

marriage and what christianity says about it is clearly only meant to be a guideline. not actually followed.

duuuuuhh

not to brag, but i find it funny how my non-religious self is about to be married for 9 years come next april, yet i'm seeing the christian moral high character people change wives like underwear.

but....whatever.

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Of course they have weight. My favorite book ever is Viktor Frankl's Man's Search for Meaning.

I am simply saying that I do not like when people call our candidates or our President "the devil" or "the AntiChrist."

Not saying you have to agree w/me. I do think I can voice my opinion that I don't like it, though.


I found it on PDF here:

https://www.sonoma.edu/users/s/shawth/mans%20Search

I think I might try reading it.


It's a great book. It's heartbreaking, yet uplifting. It's about what's been lost, but what lies ahead. It's about despair, but also about resolve.

It's a painful story that can change one's life because of the reasons this man persevered. It's about being courageous enough to make sure such a horrific event will never occur again. I strongly recommend it.

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Y'all are still on the religious angle?

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i also understand that your candidate can't even make the 10 commandment standard, which is fairly easy.


LMAO if it's so easy how come all but one person that has walked this earth has failed it?


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i also understand that your candidate can't even make the 10 commandment standard, which is fairly easy.


LMAO if it's so easy how come all but one person that has walked this earth has failed it?


Dunno, but not committing adultery is one of the easy ones.

Well, judging by your reply, I guess it actually isn't.


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psst if you ever looked at a women lustfully, or fantasized about her you committed adultery.

I break that one almost every day even though I try not to.


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Keep stretching. It's good for everybody's health.


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Matthew 5: 27 and 28

You have heard that it was said, ‘Do not commit adultery.’ But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman to lust after her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.


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Even Jimmy Carter lusted in his heart.


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Chickens have come home to roost for all parties. Democrats for years got labeled as "Godless" and doing whatever they wanted, now you have Trump.

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Yet if Hillary wins you have Bill back in the white house. I wonder which rooms he will nope only be talking about groping women in, but which rooms he will actually be doing so.


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Originally Posted By: GMdawg
Yet if Hillary wins you have Bill back in the white house. I wonder which rooms he will nope only be talking about groping women in, but which rooms he will actually be doing so.


I guess you kinda missed Trumps comments about doing the same thing and the sexual harassment claims brought against him.

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Nope I saw them and I think Trump is a disgusting PIG


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Nope I saw them and I think Trump is a disgusting PIG


His silence is deafening. wink

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Nope I saw them and I think Trump is a disgusting PIG


His silence is deafening. wink


He didn't talk about the harassment allegations.

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Originally Posted By: Clemdawg
I was raised in the (Southern Baptist) Christian Faith. I was raised to see people like this for who they are. I will not be fooled by such a person.

I wouldn't trust this man with anything I hold dear.
I wouldn't trust him him with a dime of my money.
I wouldn't trust this man with any promise he ever made to me.
And I SURELY would never trust this man with MY Nation.

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I feel you man! I completely agree with you, but I feel the exact same way about Hillary. I wouldn't trust her with a dime, with a promise or with the country. For all the vile and scary things Trump has said or done, Hillary has done equally vile things. I get that Trump is supposed to be the representative of the "Conservative" party, so the fact that this pig even got the nomination is just mind-boggling, but should the left's motto really be, "We're not conservative, so we can support disgraceful people!"?

Honestly, we as a country should be doing everything in our power to make sure that BOTH candidates do not see the insides of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave as part of their job. I don't know how a 3rd party isn't winning this election in a landslide. It just shows how pathetic and color-blind our nation has become. The fact that people are arguing, non-stop over which of these candidates is least repugnant and why that somehow validates a vote for the other is the most mind-boggling part of this entire election.

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I was referring to GM admitting that Trump was a disgusting pig, yet you remained silent on what you thought of Hillary.

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I was referring to GM admitting that Trump was a disgusting pig, yet you remained silent on what you thought of Hillary.



Do you want me to copy and paste what I said in another thread?

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Would you have felt better if Trump would have told the world "I did not have sexual relations with that woman" ?


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