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Any repub who does not vote for Trump is jeopardizing SCOTUS.

Make no mistake, not openly supporting is very different than not voting for. They will vote Trump simply to prevent a liberal SCOTUS.


Yes, and nobody wants to hear it when I say the "Silent Majority" does not answer polls but will be out for Trump.

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The silent majority.

You pushed that during the 2012 election.


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Well Obama will pardon her and there will be nothing Trump can do. You know, like Ford did Nixon. Like Bush did Regan.

And what does that have to do with over 35+ Republicans pulling their support from Trump for his lewd comments? It looks like at least some Christians stand behind their values.


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Originally Posted By: CHSDawg
How can someone say they will jail their political opponents and people still stick up for them?


I'm glad I'm not the only one who called it. Could you imagine Hillary saying she would hire an attorney to investigate Trumps business dealings? The Neocons would flip out.

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Don't you think for a moment she won't. Unless of course the fix is in and they are incahoots with one another to get her elected.


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Pro Athletes Say No One Talks Like Trump In Locker Rooms

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/pro-...ection=politics

Lol, they went off on Trump.

Yea, locker room talk ain't flying.


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Short of a miracle that consists of Hillary self exploding in some fashion, or maybe one of the Brietbart or Wikileaks things actually come out and can be proven, I don't see her losing this race.

Really, she can play keep away and she'll sail into the White House perfectly tarnished.



At this point, it is pretty much over. But Trump and the crew are going to keep trying for the hail mary. The only thing left to see is how much damage is done down ticket and if the house is in play. I NEVER thought I would be saying that.
And also, what happens to the republican party in the next 30 days and how do they heal from this and try to incorporate all people.

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Warren buffet released his tax returns...while under audit.

Now he's slamming trump for making false claims about him last night.

Man trump can't stay out of his own way


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I've been in a few locker rooms and I've never heard anyone talk about women or girls in that way.

I can imagine what's coming next...a long list of women who have been treated in the fashion Trump described on video.



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Originally Posted By: Damanshot
Short of a miracle that consists of Hillary self exploding in some fashion, or maybe one of the Brietbart or Wikileaks things actually come out and can be proven, I don't see her losing this race.

Really, she can play keep away and she'll sail into the White House perfectly tarnished.





At this point, it is pretty much over. But Trump and the crew are going to keep trying for the hail mary. The only thing left to see is how much damage is done down ticket and if the house is in play. I NEVER thought I would be saying that.
And also, what happens to the republican party in the next 30 days and how do they heal from this and try to incorporate all people.


The republican party does not survive a loss in this election.

They will either fracture into two, or die...

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The fact we're even saddled with these two candidates is a sad day in American politics. No matter who wins, we all lose.


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Originally Posted By: Swish
The silent majority.

You pushed that during the 2012 election.



The silent majority are the Republicans who hate Trump, but are forced to vote for him because they hate Hillary. THOSE are the people I sympathize for. They are Republicans like a Mike Pence who are only going along with this circus because Trump has an R next to his name.

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Let's not forget that all living presidents haven't endorsed him.. Of course, we know Bill Clinton wouldn't endorse him and Jimmy Carter wouldn't be expected to endorse him. Same with Obama.

But the Bush boys... That's a shocker... To my knowledge, they haven't come right out and said, we do not endorse him, but the silence is deafening.

I'm not sure who at this point wants this guy besides Rudy G. And anyone that has the stupidity to say that there wasn't any successful terrorist attacks except during the Clinton and Obama Administrations needs serious help...


Hey Rudy,,, Remember 9/11? Who was president again? Oh yeah, W.


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Originally Posted By: CHSDawg
He's already threatening to jail political opponents,



That is, simply, wrong. He didn't say he'd jail clinton for being a political opponent. He said he'd jail her for breaking gov't. protocol about the e-mail issue. You know, sending and receiving e-mails marked classified on an unsecure server. Which she did.

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What is with Trumps sniffling?
Did anyone notice? It was like he had a nose full of blow.


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Originally Posted By: Swish


A lot of the polls are based off averages.


A lot of them? Or, ALL of them. And it's not just "averages", it is statistical analysis. (which, in theory, works well.) In reality it works well also.

I'll give you this: DEPENDING on the poll.

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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
Well Obama will pardon her and there will be nothing Trump can do. You know, like Ford did Nixon. Like Bush did Regan.

And what does that have to do with over 35+ Republicans pulling their support from Trump for his lewd comments? It looks like at least some Christians stand behind their values.


So that's 35+ people who won't be voting for Trump... at least not publicly?

I'm not defending Trump for what he said. My point is that you guys are assuming it's going to have a huge impact on the race. I'm suggesting it won't because Bill Clinton already established that people are more concerned with how a person functions as President than if they are a sexual deviant.

If the victims of Trumps boasts come forward and are legit, then yes, I think he should be locked up.

But for you guys to have this much outrage over him on the subject, but be mums the word on how Hillary enabled Bill's predatory behavior is disingenuous at best.

Hillary has a history of going after the victims of Bill's sexual abuse. What the kids these days call victim shaming, she did x1000 worse. How any feminist worth her Rachael Maddow haircut can consider Hillary a feminist icon is beyond me.

Hey, I view this election as much of a cesspool as the next person, but voters from both sides have helped it get to this point. I'm certainly not going to take part in it.


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Your theory will be tested come Election Day.

Specifically, we will see how well, or horrible, he does with the women vote.


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Originally Posted By: CHSDawg
How can someone say they will jail their political opponents and people still stick up for them?


He didn't say that.

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Originally Posted By: Swish
Your theory will be tested come Election Day.

Specifically, we will see how well, or horrible, he does with the women vote.


Yup, and I freely admit it's a theory. You know, ever since the 2000 election I've been out at the bar every Presidential election. I've found it helps thumbsup


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How can someone say they will jail their political opponents and people still stick up for them?


He didn't say that.


(CNN)Donald Trump on Sunday night issued a remarkable threat against Hillary Clinton, telling the Democratic presidential nominee he would seek to imprison her if he was elected next month.

"If I win, I am going to instruct my attorney general to get a special prosecutor to look into your (missing email) situation," Trump said, "because there has never been so many lies, so much deception."
Trump's threat -- which he has made before on the campaign trail -- is extraordinary even by the standard of the vitriolic 2016 campaign.
Clinton responded first by calling Trump's comments about her emails false, then said, "It's just awfully good that someone with the temperament of Donald Trump is not in charge of the law in our country."
Trump, as if continuing her sentence, added: "Because you'd be in jail."

http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/09/politics/eric-holder-nixon-trump-presidential-debate/

Man, you must have been watching a different debate than everybody else.


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The republican party does not survive a loss in this election.

They will either fracture into two, or die...



And Paul Ryan has all but pulled his support for Trump. He said he's on his own and he's concentrating on limiting the loss...


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Originally Posted By: Swish
Warren buffet released his tax returns...while under audit.

Now he's slamming trump for making false claims about him last night.

Man trump can't stay out of his own way


Warren has been an Obama and Hillary stooge from day one.

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How can someone say they will jail their political opponents and people still stick up for them?


He didn't say that.


(CNN)Donald Trump on Sunday night issued a remarkable threat against Hillary Clinton, telling the Democratic presidential nominee he would seek to imprison her if he was elected next month.

"If I win, I am going to instruct my attorney general to get a special prosecutor to look into your (missing email) situation," Trump said, "because there has never been so many lies, so much deception."
Trump's threat -- which he has made before on the campaign trail -- is extraordinary even by the standard of the vitriolic 2016 campaign.
Clinton responded first by calling Trump's comments about her emails false, then said, "It's just awfully good that someone with the temperament of Donald Trump is not in charge of the law in our country."
Trump, as if continuing her sentence, added: "Because you'd be in jail."

http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/09/politics/eric-holder-nixon-trump-presidential-debate/

Man, you must have been watching a different debate than everybody else.


Nah. Same one you watched. CHS took some liberty with what Trump said.

See, it was about the deleted e-mails. You know, the ones she deleted AFTER the subpoena for all of her e-mails? Remember that?

A gov't. official, especially one like the Sec. of State, has an obligation to turn over all gov't. related correspondence.

It's been proven she didn't.

According to the laws she should be in jail awaiting trial. But, the clinton network is huge, isn't it?


Question swish: Why is it okay for hillary to delete 30 some thousand e-mails AFTER she was asked to turn them all over? Not before she was subpoenaed, AFTER.

Trump has no ideas of throwing political opponents in jail. He would, however, like to see politicians held to the standard they agreed to when accepting the job.

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Originally Posted By: Swish
"Extreme vetting" = ban.

Let's not pretend he isn't trying to ban them. He only swapped out his lingo cause he was getting roasted for saying it.


Not quite sure about this. You sound like you're making a stupid assumption. Plus that would never pass congress.


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you sure?

The FBI cleared her.

So I'll go with that over what you and trump have to say about it.

But it's funny how you have to speculate about Hillary, yet we can come with trumps actual words.

Can't wait for Election Day.


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"Extreme vetting" = ban.

Let's not pretend he isn't trying to ban them. He only swapped out his lingo cause he was getting roasted for saying it.


Not quite sure about this. You sound like you're making a stupid assumption. Plus that would never pass congress.


How is that an assumption? Let's not pretend that he didn't say ban. He only swapped out his words when he started getting slammed over it.

I don't have to assume anything. It came from Trumps own mouth.

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you sure?

The FBI cleared her.
After testimony in congress where Comey basically laid out a case against her. You know, where he said she DID send and receive classified e-mail. BUT, the 33,000 missing emails........hmm....

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So I'll go with that over what you and trump have to say about it.


If I or Trump told you the earth was round, you'd argue it.

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But it's funny how you have to speculate about Hillary, yet we can come with trumps actual words.


Trumps disgusting words. VS. Hillary's attacking rape victims of her husband.

Words vs. actions. And I'll give you that hillary didn't do the raping. Hillary didn't get her knob polished in the whitehouse. Hillary didn't treat monica as a piece of "butt", there to service her husband. I get it.

But she defended him.




Where is the "liberals" outrage over what she HAS done? Attacking rape victims. Allowing people to be killed. (probably having people killed herself),

Words, actions.

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Where is the "liberals" outrage over what she HAS done? Attacking rape victims. Allowing people to be killed. (probably having people killed herself),

Words, actions.


There is no liberal outrage because they give her a free pass on everything.


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i've already explained Hillary going after the women.

and guess what? she was right, as he wasn't ever found guilty.

so you can cry and whine and sound like a pissed off teenager who didn't get a date to prom.

at the end of the day, i'll take hillary lashing out to accusers over the guy with the child rape charge.

all day, everyday.

Hillary didn't cheat, and Bill isn't running for president. but Trump is running for president, and you haven't said a word about his child rape case nor him blatantly implying that sexual assault is ok.

get off your imaginary high horse.

i'll take the woman who honored her marriage over the guy who's been married 3 times and cheated on all of them.

all day, everyday.


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I hadn't heard the Trump was convicted of rape.

I must have missed that. Got a link to conviction?

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I hadn't heard the Trump was convicted of rape.

I must have missed that. Got a link to conviction?


do you have a link that bill was found guilty?

no?

then shut up.


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Originally Posted By: CHSDawg
How can someone say they will jail their political opponents and people still stick up for them?


Because we all know that she should be in jail.


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Let's not forget that all living presidents haven't endorsed him.. Of course, we know Bill Clinton wouldn't endorse him and Jimmy Carter wouldn't be expected to endorse him. Same with Obama.

But the Bush boys... That's a shocker... To my knowledge, they haven't come right out and said, we do not endorse him, but the silence is deafening.

I'm not sure who at this point wants this guy besides Rudy G. And anyone that has the stupidity to say that there wasn't any successful terrorist attacks except during the Clinton and Obama Administrations needs serious help...


Hey Rudy,,, Remember 9/11? Who was president again? Oh yeah, W.




I wouldn't expect the Bush's to endorse Trump. Not after the way he targeted Jeb in the debates. It also seems that the Bush and Clinton families have become quite cozy over the years


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"Extreme vetting" = ban.

Let's not pretend he isn't trying to ban them. He only swapped out his lingo cause he was getting roasted for saying it.


Not quite sure about this. You sound like you're making a stupid assumption. Plus that would never pass congress.


How is that an assumption? Let's not pretend that he didn't say ban. He only swapped out his words when he started getting slammed over it.

I don't have to assume anything. It came from Trumps own mouth.


Well if he did say ban, which I never heard, I think it was a temporary ban until a vetting procedure was in place, something like that I don't know. Do you support the current vetting and how it is currently run?


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i think there certainly can be things to tweak the system and make it better.

but there's no such thing as a perfect vetting process. and when we start talking about "Extreme" vetting, then the question becomes.

to who? for what? and from where?

i've been through the immigration process with my wife. the questions are a joke. they're basic questions. a lot of in depth questions that guess what? you CANT find out on a background check or vetting.

you can do all the background checks you want, ANYBODY can lie about it.

it's the same with the whole ban of muslims.

i can just lie about not being muslim. then what?

it's that the whole problem: you guys are searching for a perfect system within an imperfect society.

and then act surprised when people slip through the cracks.

so as i said before, the vetting process can be tweaked, but you better make sure that standard applies to everybody. also, as i've also said before.

i'm not worried about muslims and such. you know who's the bigger threat to my life? other americans. radical muslims can't hold a CANDLE to what we do to fellow americans on a daily basis.

sorry, not buying into the fear mongering. if thats your cup of tea, i wont judge you. enjoy it.

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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
Well Obama will pardon her and there will be nothing Trump can do. You know, like Ford did Nixon. Like Bush did Regan.



What? What? How can Obama pardon her unless she has been charged with a crime? Trump won't be President until January and Obama will be gone. Trump has his AG charge her and off to jail she goes. Obama is golfer in chief, kinda like he is now and can't pardon even himself for being such a bad President.

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Here is a transcript of of the Trump tape :

http://www.newsy.com/videos/leaked-audio-reveals-trump-bragged-about-groping-women/

"You know, I'm automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait. And when you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything," Trump said in the clip.

"Whatever you want," said another man, apparently Billy Bush.

"Grab them by the p----. You can do anything," Trump said.



I am not condoning what he said but he clearly states that "when you're a star, they let you". No where is there any mention of him kissing anyone who didn't want to be kissed. Yes he says "I don't even wait". But wait for what? What to be alone? Who knows what he was referring to? Certainly not me.

As for grabbing them, 2 points. First, in my reading of his statement, it is implied that they let him. People are reading this and inferring that it was unwanted touching. Second, he never actually said that he grabbed them. He stated that you could. Perhaps he was referring to having seen some star doing it and getting away with it (I was torn between saying star vs other star, was trump really a star back then?).


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After my last several posts I feel compelled to say that there is no way in H-E double hockey sticks that I will vote for Trump


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(I was torn between saying star vs other star, was trump really a star back then?).


Give me $10 Billion in the bank and I would consider myself a star. thumbsup

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