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VOTING FRAUD

One of the many reasons why the Republican party is dead and will continue to be dead.

If Clinton wins, then her nominees should come up for a vote. I am not saying that Republicans should vote for a nominee if they vehemently disagree with their positions ..... but they also should not shoot down a nominee just because the President of the other party submitted their name.

It's a shame people like this get a mic given to them-

remind me, how is that not deplorable?

This bait and switch is dumb. Making the other guy wrong doesn't make you any better or more qualified. Dumb to allow that kind of mental manipulation. This is like Nixon, who always needed an enemy to distract the public. Making the opponent wrong and this bait and switch "trick" works if you want it to do so. But nobody using it should get a pass for its use. Amazed to see how bad the logic has become, how infantile it is (well, so&so did it too and more!), and how horrible it is that we have lost track of America.

We are going to vote today early. Not voting for people as much as against the worst. Today is payback time for this wretched and endless crap we have endured.

Something kind of cool, democrats launched and met a successful $10,000 gofundme.com donation for the GOP building that was burned down.

Conservatives, if this is what trump meant by "the shackles finally taken off" by calling the election rigged and such.....well.

The GOP is notorious for having to walk back comments, but good god, I've never seen so many politicians having to denounce comments and play damage control to a presidential candidate in my life.

Even Newt had to tell his ass to shut up. People are scared about a possible WW3, but hell were watching one in the conservative ideology right now.

Trump launched a nuke, and now everybody else launched one in retaliation.

It's glorious!!!!

Well, it helps that his Daddy left him a ton of money from which to start his empire.

And you'll have to define success to me if you think his casinos, steaks, Trump U and many other business ventures were successful. Not to mention he has left a long list of people he forced to go broke because he refused to pay them..

In General, yes, he's got a lot of money. Yes, it's in the billions. He says it's 10 billion but Forbes says it's closer to 3.7 billion. Still pretty good but like everything Trump, it's not as good as he makes it out to be.

Off topic, but politics related: Former Redsox pitcher Curt Schilling said he will run against Elizabeth Warren in 2018. Ummm, good luck with that. Trying to beat the 2nd most popular democratic senator in the entire country behind only Bernie.

Not to mention he's insane.

Why do you say he is insane? I actually don't know much about the guy's political views, but I just searched around a bit and pulled this up on Google. It's an AMA (Ask Me Anything) from reddit.

Mainly quoting things that are relevant to politics or particularly noteworthy/funny. Answers are Schilling's. This is from about three months ago. Crudely copy+pasting, apologies if I screw something up: https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/4pppd8/curt_schilling_here_for_my_ama/













































Due to the way reddit's system works, which on the default setting is based on upvoting and not chronology, most of the more substantive answers were near the top and I skimmed past most of the ones at the bottom (as well as some of the less relevant ones throughout.)

In any case, he sounds like he would fit right in on this board! definitely a guy I'd like to have a beer with sometime.

Look at his dank memes and not his AMA.

I'm not sure what you mean by this or even where to look.

Dank memes melt steel beams!!

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=curt+schilling+memes

I know what memes are but 'dank memes' is a term that I've mostly only heard Swish use. I was hoping that CHS would elaborate on how it relates to Curt Schilling/why he is insane.

Don't you mean "she's insane"?

They're insane would certainly fit.

jc

The final debate is tomorrow night, again at 9:00pm EDT. I'm not really sure what to expect in this one.

The third debate means little to nothing. Most people have made up their minds. This election has been over since the first debate and the nail was in the coffin after the second debate.

The only question is how bad will Clinton beat Trump. Is it 2012 Obama or is it 1984 Reagan or somewhere in between? My guess is that it's somewhere in between.

1984 Reagan won 525-13, 58.8% to 40.6% in the popular vote

2012 Obama won 332-206, 51.1% to 47.2%

FiveThirtyEight has the popular vote pegged at Hillary 49.8%, Trump 42.8%

Trump could still win; it would probably require him to make up about 3-4% in addition to the polls being off by 3-4% (similar to Brexit.) The combination of the two is unlikely. All in all, if I had to make a prediction I'd say Clinton victory along the lines of 2012 Obama or in that vicinity.

I was more talking about the EC, not popular vote. States like Georgia, Utah, and Alaska may be in play for Clinton.

The damage Trump has done to the GOP is incredible. I don't see how the party makes it back from this.

First thought I had too.

I expect Trump will be completely unprofessional. He probably thinks he has nothing to lose and will just hammer conspiracy theories, interrupt, and be a bully. To be honest, I hope he can be professional and civil simply for healthy discourse and debate but, in this final outing he will probably aim to go down blazing and have his sights on everybody. Just listen to his recent campaign speeches about the "rigged system" and his loathing of the media. It is pretty frightening considering we are a country that has the "freedom of press" as part of the 1st Amendment! Anybody read some of the horrific things the editors of the Arizona Republic have had to put up with since they publicly endorsed Clinton? Despicable. Death threats, kidnapping threats? I mean really horrible stuff. Not to mention...what does a lot of what he has recently been focused on have to do with the very serious issues we face and are affecting us on a daily basis? Nothing.

I was listening to NPR this morning and they were talking to people in swing states. Surprise, surprise they were in Ohio and a lady said if Trump loses she would "expect and want an investigation into voter fraud". The interviewer then asked if Trump wins would she still expect and want an investigation into fraud? Of course she said "no".

Well some of the voter fraud issues make me wonder after reading Wiki Leaks, just saying.

I already have my tin foil hat on. I fully expect him to mention lizard people tomorrow night.

Don't you mean "she's insane"? [/quote]

First thought I had too. [/quote]

And another renowned liar!

I do get the sense that Trump is going to take the gloves off, to use the lame analogy I used a couple threads ago.

Possibly interesting side drama: Malik Obama, President Obama's half brother, is going to attend the debate.... as Trump's guest

That would be interesting. Flying him from his 10X10 shack in Africa. "hey, here is the president of the united states brother. He lives in poverty. His brother hasn't helped him one bit. Hillary will do the same for all the poor people that vote for her. She won't help you one bit. But, she'll make the middle class poor. And she'll talk about raising taxes on the wealthy, while all the time she's taking rich peoples money to benefit her."

And then there was this...Somebody got some splaining to do

Pol says online voting post was joke; officials not laughing

AP, Associated Press

Oct. 18, 2016 5:43 PM ET


MURRYSVILLE, Pa. (AP) — A Republican councilman said he deleted an online posting about casting presidential votes via Facebook and Twitter because people didn't realize he intended it as a joke, but state officials are taking the matter seriously.

No state allows voters to cast ballots via social media, and Pennsylvania's election oversight agency warned voters not to be misled by posts claiming otherwise. The governor's office also issued a statement that said efforts to disrupt the election would be prosecuted.

Joshua Lorenz, a Pittsburgh attorney and councilman in Murrysville, told The Associated Press the meme — which said, "Vote Hillary November 8th" and "You can vote at home comfortably online" — was meant as a joke for his friends. He said he took down the post within a couple hours Saturday because "the person who had questioned it, who I thought was a friend, had apparently misconstrued it."

In sharing the image, Lorenz wrote that it was "more proof that the election process is rigged," according to the online news site Billy Penn . GOP nominee Donald Trump has made similar claims.

Lorenz said he couldn't believe that anyone would miss that he intended it as a farce.

"Look at the meme itself, 'You can vote from home comfortably online.' Who could possibly think that?" he said. "It was a joke on my private page, with my friends. It wasn't for public consumption."

Pennsylvania Department of State spokeswoman Wanda Murren said she believed most Pennsylvania voters are aware that the state doesn't have online voting, but the agency nevertheless tweeted a reminder that voters have only two options: absentee ballot or showing up at the polls on Election Day.

Democratic Gov. Tom Wolf's office issued a statement saying the governor believes "any attempts to disrupt the electoral process should be investigated and prosecuted."

It's illegal in Pennsylvania for elected officials to purposely share misinformation about voting and elections. The attorney general's office said it was told to expect a referral on the matter.

Lorenz said "there's no way, shape or form that this was intended to be true or meant to influence anyone."

He added: "It was a joke. That's the full, complete truth. There is no more."

I meant it is actually going to happen. Malik Obama is a big Trump supporter.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/obamas-half-brother-to-attend-presidential-debate-as-trumps-guest/

What kind of voter fraud are you worried about?

83 and Sunny here yesterday so I took the motorcycle to the Dr. office and to the BMV. I went through 2 towns and two Villages. Number of Trump signs in peoples yards

Trump 63


Number of Clinton's signs in peoples yards

Clinton 0

For tonight's debate, I hope Chris Wallace ask about the Supreme Court situation.

The republicans said they weren't gonna confirm anybody until the next president comes in.

Ok, stupid, but let's roll with that.

Now, since they know Hillary is gonna smoke Trump in the election, they are vowing to block anybody she nominates.

Lol, this is just as bad as the republicans "one term president" or "block anything he tries to pass" comments they made toward Obama.

They are standing up on Capitol Hill and declaring that they won't do their jobs.

And they wonder why their ideology is dying, and soon to be dead. They have changed the definition of conservatism to mean "no on everything".

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/10/18/dem...police-say.html

YOu just can't make this stuff up. A DNC chartered bus dumped it's human waste into a street storm drain... smh

Looooooooool

I'm glad these idiots can't hide the stupid things they do anymore.

That's what happens when you hire homeboy from down the way to drive your bus

Soros-Connected Company Provides Voting Machines In 16 States

David Krayden

10/18/2016



Smartmatic, a U.K.-based voting technology company with deep ties to George Soros, has control over voting machines in 16 states including battleground zones like Arizona, Colorado, Florida, Michigan, Nevada, Pennsylvania and Virginia. Other jurisdictions affected are California, District of Columbia, Illinois, Louisiana, Missouri, New Jersey, Oregon, Washington and Wisconsin.

Its website includes a flow-chart that describes how the company has contributed to elections in the U.S. from 2006-2015 with “57,000 voting and counting machines deployed” and “35 million voters assisted.”

In 2005, Smartmatic bought-out California-based Sequoia Voting Systems and entered the world of U.S. elections.

According to Smarmatic’s website, “In less than one year Smartmatic tripled Sequoia’s market share” and “has offered technology and support services to the Electoral Commissions of 307 counties in 16 States.”



Among the “case studies” that Smartmatic lists on its website as examples of its work are Venezuela, where it has been facilitating elections since 2004 when it “won a bid to provide Venezuela with a reliable voting system.”

It also lists Cook County, Illinois as another success story, when in “in 2006, Smartmatic signed what at the moment was the largest election automation contract in US history.” Cook County includes Chicago and its suburbs, a geographic zone that has historically and lately been subject to criticism for voter fraud.

The chairman of Smartmatic is Lord Mark Malloch-Brown, who sits in the British House of Lords and on the board of George Soros’s Open Society Foundations. He was formerly the vice-chairman of Soros’s Investment Funds and even the deputy secretary-general of the United Nations when he worked as chief of staff to Kofi Annan.

Malloch-Brown’s resume includes stints as vice-president of the UN World Bank and in British Prime Minister Gordon Brown’s cabinet.

In addition to a close relationship with Soros, Malloch-Brown has worked with consulting firms that are well-connected to Bill and Hillary Clinton. He was an international partner with the Sawyer-Miller consulting firm and was a senior adviser to FTI Consulting.

One of Sawyer-Miller’s alumni is Mandy Grunwald, who ran the firm’s communication contract for Bill Clinton’s 1992 presidential run. She was also the head of communications for Hillary Clinton’s unsuccessful 2008 presidential bid.

Jackson Dunn, who is a senior managing director with FTI Consulting, spent 15 years in Washington where he worked as an aide to President Bill Clinton and Sen. Hilllary Clinton.

Smartmatic has already encountered controversy in the ongoing presidential contest. It ran the online balloting for the Utah Republican caucus last March, when many critics said it was impossible to secure personal electronic devices that are used to register and vote.


http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/18/soros-connected-company-provides-voting-machines-in-16-states/

I had poll training last evening. Here are acceptable non - photo forms of ID:

Questionable in my opinion:

Utility bill
Paycheck
Firearm permit
Bank statement
Government check

Not so concerning in my opinion:

Voter ID card issued by elections office
Non photo-ID issued by a US government agency
ID issued by another Commonwealth Agency

You make the decision regarding voter fraud. Given the first set, very feasible.