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Here's an article about Salazar that I posted earlier this summer.

http://www.espn.com/blog/sweetspot/post/...-valuable-pitch

IMO, if he's healthy and if he has good command of his pitches, he's a threat to throw a no-hitter anytime he pitches.

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Did anyone else hear that Schwarber hurt his knee and hasn't faced MLB pitching for 6 months?


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I have another question for you guys.

How good is Salazar when he is healthy? I get the feeling he is really good. Is that true?


Salazar has magic stuff when healthy. He was considered a Cy Young candidate before he got hurt.


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As far as I'm concerned we're playing with house money right now. We have no business being in this Series.

Especially last night, we had our #5 picther go up against the reigning Cy Young award winner, played our worst defensive game of the off season and were within striking distance in the 8th.

Having said that, I think there's a chance we could win on Friday. I know that Hendricks was the league ERA leader but he's more of a precision pitcher than Arrieta and therefore hopefully easier to "manage" at the plate. Same can be said for Tomlin, but he doesn't have the weight of expectations opening up the World Series at Wrigley for the first time in however long.

Either way, win or lose, I hate the idea of bring Kluber back on short rest for game 4. That will be the second time he's done it in his career and while he survived the first time, it wasn't pretty. We can get to Lackey for sure, I'd rather see Merrit/Salazar and friends in that game and then have Kluber pitching game 5 on full rest. Either as the stopper or fat lady warming up her pipes.

We then go home and roll the dice with whoever is ready on a given day. I realize that means that Kluber can't pitch potentially 3 games, but I just think we need him at his best to beat Lester again. Beating Lackey in game 4 can be done by any one of our guys we need our ace to go against their's...

Anyway, this team played it's worst playoff baseball last night and we're still ONLY 3 wins away from a World Series title!!!

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Originally Posted By: Stetson76
As far as I'm concerned we're playing with house money right now. We have no business being in this Series.


That's sort of how I feel about it. Two of our 4 starters are out with injury. Our 4th starter is now our 2nd starter and his finger is nerfed up. And we're riding our #1 guy into the ground because we don't have many other options.

Meanwhile, the Cubs have John Lackey as their #4 starter and a payroll that's twice the size of ours.

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A part of the decision to pitch Tomlin at Wrigley is that 1.) he's supposed to be a pretty good hitter and 2.) they didn't want Bauer having to swing a bat with that finger still healing.


That's definitely a good point Dave. I was agreeing with all the points. I was just adding what I thought could have been another factor into the decision. Even if it was just a small factor into the decision.

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--I don't like how MLB awards home field advantage. I get they want interest in the All Star game, but I believe the team w/the best record should have home field advantage. I understand that might upset some of you because that would mean we wouldn't have home field advantage, but man, you play 162 games and ignore that? Weird.



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As far as I'm concerned we're playing with house money right now. We have no business being in this Series.


That's sort of how I feel about it. Two of our 4 starters are out with injury. Our 4th starter is now our 2nd starter and his finger is nerfed up. And we're riding our #1 guy into the ground because we don't have many other options.

Meanwhile, the Cubs have John Lackey as their #4 starter and a payroll that's twice the size of ours.


I'd put Bauer as a our 5th guy. Kluber, Carrasco, Salazar, Tomlin, then Bauer...


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Originally Posted By: Stetson76
As far as I'm concerned we're playing with house money right now. We have no business being in this Series.


That's sort of how I feel about it. Two of our 4 starters are out with injury. Our 4th starter is now our 2nd starter and his finger is nerfed up. And we're riding our #1 guy into the ground because we don't have many other options.

Meanwhile, the Cubs have John Lackey as their #4 starter and a payroll that's twice the size of ours.


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Cubs had a 15 game winner that didn't even make their WS roster - Jason Hammel. I also agree with your "house money" metaphor, but after watching us dismantle the Red Sox and the Blue Jays - both of whom I think had better rosters than ours - I started thinking that maybe something magic was going on here. I still kind of think that, but last night was a cold splash in the face.

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Did anyone else hear that Schwarber hurt his knee and hasn't faced MLB pitching for 6 months?


I could have sworn that they said he created the world in 5 days, and we should all be bowing down to him.


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I heard that Kyle Schwarber once punched The Cyclops right between his one eye. He's that good.

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That explains why I heard the entire world is rooting for the Cubs.


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Kyle Schwarber caught all the Pokemons ... from a landline.

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Death once had a near-Schwarber experience.

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Is this guy related to Lawrence Vickers?


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I think he's related to the Dos Equis guy.


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quote above by Stetson:

"...we're playing with house money right now"

Not my "house money".


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And Chuck Norris.


Have your ever seen Schwarber and Chuck Norris in the same place at the same time?

I didn't think so!


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EUREKA!!

I have discovered the magic formula for the Tribe to win tonight’s game.


Please do not allow this to fall into Cubs’ management hands.


Let:


X = Tomlin’s WHIP + ERA - SO/9 innings
Z = Hendricks’ WHIP + ERA - SO/9 innings
R = Indians’ Team batting average + Total bases
Q = Cubs’ Team batting average + Total bases
A = Indian Errors + stolen bases
B = Cubs Errors + stolen bases


Cubs’ Runs Scored Tonight = {(Z * Q)/9 + (2Z - B) * [ZB/3Q]/9 +[3Q + Z]}


Indians Runs Scored Tonight = {(Z * Q)/9 + (2Z - B) * [ZB/3Q]/9 +[3Q + Z]} + 1


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Originally Posted By: rockyhilldawg
EUREKA!!

I have discovered the magic formula for the Tribe to win tonight’s game.


Please do not allow this to fall into Cubs’ management hands.


Let:


X = Tomlin’s WHIP + ERA - SO/9 innings
Z = Hendricks’ WHIP + ERA - SO/9 innings
R = Indians’ Team batting average + Total bases
Q = Cubs’ Team batting average + Total bases
A = Indian Errors + stolen bases
B = Cubs Errors + stolen bases


Cubs’ Runs Scored Tonight = {(Z * Q)/9 + (2Z - B) * [ZB/3Q]/9 +[3Q + Z]}


Indians Runs Scored Tonight = {(Z * Q)/9 + (2Z - B) * [ZB/3Q]/9 +[3Q + Z]} + 1


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Here is mine we score alot they score a little

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quote above by Jcamm:

"Here is mine we score alot they score a little"

Well if you had taken the time to crunch the numbers you would have found the score tonight is going to be:

Cleveland over Chicago 5,922,109 to 2.

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quote=rockyhilldawg]quote above by Jcamm:

"Here is mine we score alot they score a little"

Well if you had taken the time to crunch the numbers you would have found the score tonight is going to be:

ClevelDweetand over Chicago 5,922,109 to 2. [/quote]

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Inside story: How Cleveland Indians found Roberto Perez -- Terry Pluto

By Terry Pluto, The Plain Dealer
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on October 27, 2016 at 2:55 PM, updated October 27, 2016 at 8:41 PM








CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Think about this number -- 1,011.


Now, put that number next to your name.


In the 2008 Major League Baseball draft, Roberto Perez was picked by the Cleveland Indians in the 33rd round.


That's doesn't sound awful.


But the Tribe's catcher was the 1,011th player picked in that 2008 draft.


So that means more than 1,000 names were called before Perez was selected out of Lake City (Florida) Community College.


"It's an amazing story to see Roberto in the World Series," said Mike Soper.


Soper is the scout who signed Perez. He's the scout who first saw Perez as a high school player in Puerto Rico. And he's the scout who followed him to Lake City, a rather nondescript junior college baseball program.


"It was Mike who really wanted us to take Roberto," said Brad Grant, the Tribe's scouting director. "When you come to those low rounds, you have a list of names. You have your scouts with you. And you kind of look them in the eye and see how strongly they feel and believe in their player."


Soper is primarily known as the scout who signed Francisco Lindor.


Lindor was the No. 8 pick in the 2011 draft, so he was hardly a secret. I wrote a story about Soper's scouting of Lindor, which began when the All-Star shortstop was only 15 years old.


The Indians had to make a major decision between Lindor and Javier Baez in that 2011 draft. Soper liked both, but pushed for Lindor.


The Indians went with Lindor. Selecting right behind the Tribe at No. 9, the Chicago Cubs called the name of Baez. He is their starting second baseman.


But there was no drama like that when it came to Perez.

STRANGE DRAFT STUFF


In 2008, there were 46 players considered to be first-rounders. There are the standard 30 picks (one for each team), plus additional "sandwich picks," also considered to be first-rounders.


The Tribe's first-round pick in 2008 was Lonnie Chisenhall, their starting right fielder.


Perez has played in 160 Major League regular season games.


Now get this: There are 10 different non-pitchers in those first 46 picks who have played fewer Major League games than Perez.


That's right, TEN!


And that includes Tim Beckham, the No. 1 player in the draft. He is a career .238 hitter who has played in 151 games for Tampa Bay.


As Grant and Soper told me, this is what makes the baseball draft so unique.


Here are some facts about that 2008 draft:


1. Of those first 46 picks, 80 percent reached the Majors.


2. In the second round, only 54 percent reached the Majors.


3. In the 33rd round, Tribe pitcher Shawn Armstrong also was picked. He was selected by Houston, but didn't sign. The Tribe picked him in the 18th round of the 2011 draft.


4. Besides Perez, the only other player signed out of the 33rd round in 2008 to reach the Majors was part-time outfielder Dan Robertson, who has appeared in 116 games.


5. Besides Perez, the only other 2008 Tribe picks (who signed with the team) to reach the Majors are: Chisenhall (No. 29), Cord Phelps (No. 107), Zack Putnam (No. 171), Matt Langwell (No. 351) and T.J. House (No. 501).


6. So Perez was the third-best player selected by the Tribe in that 50-round draft. Chisenhall would be ahead of him. So would Zack Putnam (10-6, 3.36 ERA), a reliever for the Chicago White Sox.


SCOUTING PEREZ


Soper first spotted Perez in Puerto Rico as a high school junior.


"I liked his catching skills and his arm," said Soper. "He did show some power."


There was some concern the 5-foot-11, 220-pound Perez would have weight problems.


"I know Manny Estrada (a Los Angeles Dodgers scout) liked him, too," said Soper. "They drafted him (in the 29th round in 2006), but he didn't sign."


Tom Clark (now a Cubs scout) was the coach at Lake City C.C.


"He would go to Puerto Rico to find players," said Soper. "He recruited Perez."


For a while, Soper lost track of Perez. He was scouting a junior college game. Then he spotted the kid catcher from Puerto Rico who'd once intrigued him.


He began following Perez and mentioned him to Scott Barnsby, a "cross checker." The cross checker becomes a second-set of eyes on players.


"Scott and I were at a doubleheader where Roberto's team was playing," said Soper. "Between games, we talked to three Lake City pitchers. They all raved about how Roberto was the best catcher they had ever thrown to. They really liked him as a person, too."


The coaching staff also praised the character of Perez.


As a sophomore, Perez had a big year for Lake City -- batting .374 with 15 homers in 52 games.


It would seem Perez should have been a higher draft pick. But Lake City was not a program that produced a lot of big leaguers.


In fact, after the 2008 season -- the school dropped its athletic programs. In 2010, the school was renamed Florida Gateway College and brought back athletics.


There still were concerns about Perez becoming too heavy. And there are times when scouts just miss players.


MAKE THE PICK!


Soper was hopeful the Tribe would pick Perez. He was projected as a backup big league catcher, assuming things went well.


"You always are looking for catchers," said Grant. The 2008 draft was his first as the Tribe's Scouting Director. He had been with the Indians since 1994, starting as an intern.


Soper kept pushing for Perez.


"After about 30 rounds, I was nervous we'd lose him," said the scout.


Grant had not seen him play. The scouting director can't be everywhere. His focus is on the players in the top rounds of the draft. After that, he has to trust his scouts.


In the 33rd round, they picked Perez.


"Then I was concerned we weren't going to be able to sign him," said Grant.


More than big league teams missed on Perez, so did the major colleges.


"He was being recruited hard by Cumberland," said Grant. "I remember that. And we had only $10,000 available to sign him."


Cumberland University is an NAIA powerhouse in Lebanon, Tenn. Wood Hunt has coached there for 35 years. It was a viable option.


"In the end, Roberto wanted to play pro ball," said Soper. "So we eventually got him signed."


But that wasn't until August 11, 2008. So Perez had to wait until 2009 to start his pro career.


His bonus was the $10,000.


COMING UP THE HARD WAY


When a player is picked in the 33rd round and has a small bonus, he has to show something soon.


Perez did that, batting .351 in 34 games in the Arizona Rookie League in 2009.


After that, Perez stumbled as a hitter. He batted .217, .225, .215 from 2010-12 in the Tribe's minor league system.


"From the beginning, Roberto could catch and throw," said Grant. "He worked so hard. He always cared about his pitchers."


In 2013, Perez suffered from Bell's Palsy, a facial paralysis.


"He couldn't close one of his eyes," said Soper. "He had trouble sleeping. It was so tough for him, but he hung in there."


Grant said catching means a lot of dirt and sweat goes into your eyes -- and the palsy caused extra problems for Perez when that happened.


Perez batted .176 in 67 games at Class AAA in 2013 as he battled Bell's Palsy.


In 2014, it went away. He hit .305 at Columbus and was called up to the Tribe in July.


Now, he's starting in the World Series. He has hit three homers in the postseason.


As a catcher, his powerful arm is well-known. He has allowed only one stolen base in the postseason.


He threw out 11-of-24 (46 percent) stealing base runners during the regular season. Anything above 25 percent is excellent.


Hitting will probably always be a challenge for Perez, who has a career .220 average (.674 OPS) with 11 HR in 160 big league games.


"What he has done is a tribute to Roberto's tenacity and dedication," said Grant. "We are so proud of him. He has overcome so much to get here. It's a great story."

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So, Santana is starting in LF tonight. What the? Is Tito really that nervous about our hitting?


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Originally Posted By: Punchsmack
So, Santana is starting in LF tonight. What the? Is Tito really that nervous about our hitting?

anyone that's watched our hitting would be nervous


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Originally Posted By: Punchsmack
So, Santana is starting in LF tonight. What the? Is Tito really that nervous about our hitting?


Is he really terrible in the field?

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He's NEVER played LF.



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Oh! Wow!

I realize that I didn't watch the Tribe all season, but Santana drives me nuts when he is in the leadoff position. His swing is too long. I see him as a number 5 hitter. And I like Coco's game. He does the little things. He bunts. He waves at pitches to protect base stealers, he fields well, he runs the bases well. I think you win w/guys willing to do that.

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We're desperate for hitting.

Hendricks is very, very good.

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Francona on putting Santana in left: "We didn't come all this way to play it safe."


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Francona confirmed Bauer will start Game 5.


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Hendricks must be a righty, right?

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Originally Posted By: GratefulDawg
Francona confirmed Bauer will start Game 5.


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