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Roman created a pretty successful offense with a guy who had never been a starter (Tyrod Taylor). They were first in rushing yards in 2015 and then again in 2016.
(It helps to have LeSean McCoy.)
So, why did foot fetish Rexie fire him for Lynn? Clash of personality/egos? Btw, my buddy also hopes Lynn gets the permanent HC gig. Probably the same reason Horton was fired. Gotta blame someone for all the losses.
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I remember laughing when Rex fired Roman after his brother's defense was getting lit up like time's square. I think that he said: "Gotta do something, and I don't want to miss Thanksgiving and Thanksgiving meals at Rob's ......."
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I salivate to see what Greg Roman could do with this rushing attack.
We were already very good. Roman could be a vast improvement...
He also could mean we have more interest in Tyrod Taylor.
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hue did not "sacrifice" anybody. he made a change at the d. coordinator position. apparently he decided he made a wrong call last year and he rectified it. do you really think hue is so stupid that he expected a top 10 defense and when he did not get one he blamed the dc. hue knew the players we have and that it was going to be a struggle. hopefully, williams turns out to be just what the doctored ordered for our defense
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keith, will you please stop harassing me? It's opinion. I'm tired of you nitpicking my posts and acting like I am stupid.
Let's just ignore each other. Cool?
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last I heard he was in the prison hospital. parole is probably out of the question too.
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you always think you are being harassed, picked on or bullied. did you have issues back in the day of the playground???
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I want Roman if it means we get Tyrod.
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You think Tyrod is the answer at qb?
He's not very accurate.
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You think Tyrod is the answer at qb?
He's not very accurate. 62% and 64% the last two years is plenty good enough.
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You are smart enough to know that people who measure completion percentage to accuracy are often mistaken.
I am not getting on you for liking him. I'm just surprised.
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You are smart enough to know that people who measure completion percentage to accuracy are often mistaken.
I am not getting on you for liking him. I'm just surprised. Agreed. Could simply be his offense and the kind of throws he's making. I haven't watched much Buffalo, but Boomer Esiason (Local Radio) was saying that he is a good backup, but when forced to play from the pocket, not up to starting par. Couldn't understand why he ever got the big contract off one season which still showed some of his deficiencies. Very good guy though (Tyrod). And Boomer's a Jet Fan who works for the NFL. So I imagine he's probably on to something. I was sort of on the Tyrod Train, and this slowed me down. I'd assume he's better than anything we got though
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Does anyone blame him? Hue already scapegoated one coach after a year....not hard to see the writing on the wall for next year. If I were a coach with opportunity I would jettison this crew as well.
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Does anyone blame him? Hue already scapegoated one coach after a year....not hard to see the writing on the wall for next year. If I were a coach with opportunity I would jettison this crew as well. Or Michigan is just a better job (it is).
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Does anyone blame him? Hue already scapegoated one coach after a year....not hard to see the writing on the wall for next year. If I were a coach with opportunity I would jettison this crew as well. Or Michigan is just a better job (it is). Pep also has ties to Harbaugh from 2010 Stanford. Bet one of two things happens going forward. Harbaugh back to the NFL and Pep comes with him. Or Pep takes over up north. Vers. Roman would be superb here for Garoppolo.
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Not sure what you are disputing? Big Willie and I are claiming that Cleveland is not a good job due to the constant turmoil and upheaval w/in the organization. So yeah, Michigan is a better job.
Then again, at this point in time. Kentucky is a better job. What isn't a better job?
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I find it hard to believe that Roman would come to Cleveland but anything is possible. The guy is an established OC with a track record of being successful calling plays. I don't know why he would come here and not be able to call the offense.
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You are smart enough to know that people who measure completion percentage to accuracy are often mistaken.
I am not getting on you for liking him. I'm just surprised. Taylor STINKS .... anyone who wants him hasn't seen much of him ... hes so innacurate its PATHETIC ... He's a GREAT back up ... starter ... WELL BELOW AVERAGE ...
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We can always use another RB can't we Vers? lol
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I find it hard to believe that Roman would come to Cleveland but anything is possible. The guy is an established OC with a track record of being successful calling plays. I don't know why he would come here and not be able to call the offense. Well hopefully Hue is able to get him here so he can relinquish play calling duties. I want my coach coaching and leading, not focused on calling plays!
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We can always use another RB can't we Vers? lol Spoken like a former RB, albeit a FB. 
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WGR 550 Buffalo's Sal Capaccio reports if Panthers DC Sean McDermott is named the Bills' new coach, Capaccio "keeps hearing" ex-Chargers coach Mike McCoy "could join him" as offensive coordinator. There are obviously moving parts here, but it sure sounds like the Bills have "zeroed in" on McDermott as their next coach. McCoy is viewed by many as the top offensive coordinator on the market. The two have never coached together. McCoy's presence could be a reason Buffalo is leaning toward McDermott. McCoy has done well with numerous different quarterbacks. http://www.rotoworld.com/sports/nfl/football?r=1
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Don't know much about Musgrave. Is he a guy we should be interested in? Raiders unexpectedly move on from offensive coordinator Bill Musgrave Connor Learn/Fansided Jan 10, 2017 at 6:18p ET Despite finishing riding the NFL’s sixth ranked offense to a 12-4 record, the Oakland Raiders are choosing not to retain coordinator Bill Musgrave. The resurgent Raiders were one of the NFL’s positive storylines this season. Oakland finally returned to the playoffs after a long rebuilding period and quarterback Derek Carr emerged as an MVP candidate and established himself as one of the league’s best young quarterbacks. The Raiders finished sixth in the NFL total offense, placing thirteenth in passing and sixth in rushing under the direction of coordinator Bill Musgrave. However, they lost in the playoffs after Carr went down in Week 16. Despite their success under his direction, the Raiders will not be retaining the Bill Musgrave in 2017. He originally signed a two-year contract, and it expired at the end of this season. Musgrave, 49, was on his fifth offensive coordinator job in Oakland. NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport broke the news: Rapoport also named one possible replacement for Musgrave as the new offensive coordinator: Todd Downing, 36, has served as the Raiders quarterbacks coach each of the last two seasons. He had previously served as the QB coach for the Bills and Lions after rising through the Vikings and Rams organizations. Downing has been credited with playing a big part in the development of Derek Carr. This move allows him to continue his work with the young quarterback. Oakland’s offensive line was one of the finer units in the NFL this season. Three Pro Bowlers were selected from their line: center Rodney Hudson, guard Kelechi Osemele and tackle Donald Penn. Guard Gabe Jackson is also considered a building block in that group. With that line blocking for Carr, Michael Crabtree and Amari Cooper, it’s easy to see why the Raiders had success offensively. The Raiders may have lose Downing to an offensive coordinator job elsewhere this off-season had they not made this move. If they credit him with developing Carr, then it makes sense to keep him on staff. They will now have to make decisions regarding their running back position, as well as possibly shaking up other spots. But Downing, Carr and the other pieces they have should allow them to continue offensive success. With the tools that Oakland has on the side of the ball, they may not miss Musgrave. Downing will get to continue working with Carr and the future still looks bright in Oakland. This article originally appeared onRaiders unexpectedly move on from offensive coordinator Bill Musgrave Connor Learn/Fansided Jan 10, 2017 at 6:18p ET Despite finishing riding the NFL’s sixth ranked offense to a 12-4 record, the Oakland Raiders are choosing not to retain coordinator Bill Musgrave. The resurgent Raiders were one of the NFL’s positive storylines this season. Oakland finally returned to the playoffs after a long rebuilding period and quarterback Derek Carr emerged as an MVP candidate and established himself as one of the league’s best young quarterbacks. The Raiders finished sixth in the NFL total offense, placing thirteenth in passing and sixth in rushing under the direction of coordinator Bill Musgrave. However, they lost in the playoffs after Carr went down in Week 16. Despite their success under his direction, the Raiders will not be retaining the Bill Musgrave in 2017. He originally signed a two-year contract, and it expired at the end of this season. Musgrave, 49, was on his fifth offensive coordinator job in Oakland. NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport broke the news: Rapoport also named one possible replacement for Musgrave as the new offensive coordinator: Todd Downing, 36, has served as the Raiders quarterbacks coach each of the last two seasons. He had previously served as the QB coach for the Bills and Lions after rising through the Vikings and Rams organizations. Downing has been credited with playing a big part in the development of Derek Carr. This move allows him to continue his work with the young quarterback. Oakland’s offensive line was one of the finer units in the NFL this season. Three Pro Bowlers were selected from their line: center Rodney Hudson, guard Kelechi Osemele and tackle Donald Penn. Guard Gabe Jackson is also considered a building block in that group. With that line blocking for Carr, Michael Crabtree and Amari Cooper, it’s easy to see why the Raiders had success offensively. The Raiders may have lose Downing to an offensive coordinator job elsewhere this off-season had they not made this move. If they credit him with developing Carr, then it makes sense to keep him on staff. They will now have to make decisions regarding their running back position, as well as possibly shaking up other spots. But Downing, Carr and the other pieces they have should allow them to continue offensive success. With the tools that Oakland has on the side of the ball, they may not miss Musgrave. Downing will get to continue working with Carr and the future still looks bright in Oakland. http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/raide...musgrave-011017
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As I see it, the problem with hiring a OC is they will have to step in to Hue's O. It isn't easy to find someone willing to do that.
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Bill Musgrave is out there now too....
The top available guys are McCoy, Roman and Musgrave
The OC and QB Coach are gonna be important hires
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Bill Musgrave is out there now too....
The top available guys are McCoy, Roman and Musgrave
The OC and QB Coach are gonna be important hires Why would an OC come here? ... they want to call plays and be "in charge" of the O ... The only way any of them three come here is if Hue says they can call plays (ain't gonna happen and even if it did ... they may be on a short leash) .... or they get no other offers .... I have no clue why a legite OC would want to come here .... Boy ... would i love to know what happend in Oakland ... that one makes no sense on the surface ...
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Why would an OC come here? Compared to an opportunity where an OC can call plays coming to Cleveland would be a lesser option. But compared to not being in the league at all any OC job is a good job.
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Why would an OC come here? Compared to an opportunity where an OC can call plays coming to Cleveland would be a lesser option. But compared to not being in the league at all any OC job is a good job. So us being the ONLY OPTION is the only way we have a shot at a real OC ... ya ... thats what i thought ... There's gonna be alot of hires coming up .... we'll see whats left when the dust settles .... lots of domino's to fall that will afffect us in FA the draft and in the coaching staff ... all fronts are firing on all cylinders ... plenty of action .... Lets hope we come out winners for a change ...
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Does Hue need an OC?
OR, does Hue need someone to help with the OC duties to help take some of the load off of Hue?
The type of person who takes a job like Hue is offering is someone who needs experience learning the OC position...someone working his way up the ladder, such as sharp QB coach who willing to be Hue's understudy with a possible opportunity to take over the OC position for Hue, when the time comes.
Might be someone still working with a team that is in the playoffs...maybe..
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[color:#FFFFCC]Does Hue need an OC? Yes. Hue needs an OC. The offensive staff has many different responsibilities. From a game plan perceptive each HC, OC, QB coach, Rb coach, TE coach etc are all responsible for putting together there scouting of the opposing defense as it relates to their unit and providing plays they think will work. Then the play sheet is broken down and the coaches again have certain areas to scout and gameplan: RZ, Plus territory, 3rd down, etc.... The OC puts the whole thing together and runs practice. Just to merely field a complete staff the team needs an OC and QB coach. Without that Hue will be running around like chicken with his head cutoff and that's just dealing with the offense. Hue needs an OC.
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Do the Browns have anyone already on the coaching staff who has been an offensive coordinator?
...I do believe the answer is "yes", two of Hue's assistants have extensive experience in the OC field, so it's not like there are not coaches on staff to help out if a young QB coach, moving up the coaching ladder looking to gain experience under someone as experienced as Hue Jackson, fills the open OC job.
There is also the possibility that Hue and the front office already have back channel communications with someone to fill the job...someone still working for a team in the playoffs.
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Then there is a void at whatever they were doing before becoming the OC and there is still a void at QB Coach.
I have nothing against hiring a young QB coach as OC but it would still be a lateral move that would require that young QB coach gaining the title of Assistant HC.
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ed..if the young QB coach is hired as a OC, how is that a lateral move?
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Why would an OC come here? Compared to an opportunity where an OC can call plays coming to Cleveland would be a lesser option. But compared to not being in the league at all any OC job is a good job. Didn't Fisher's son pass up an opportunity to sign w/the Browns and instead choose to sit out next season?
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Well those domino's have started to fall ....
Joseph to Denver .... done deal .... he's reportedly interviewing Musgrave ...
McDermott (Panthers DC) to the Jill's ... done deal .... he reportedly wants McCoy ...
Domino's a tumbling ....
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