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The Cleveland Browns lost another coach this offseason as Pep Hamilton decided to leave the team to join the Michigan Wolverines.

by Steven Kubitza

This past weekend saw the Cleveland Browns fire Ray Horton from his role as defensive coordinator, with Gregg Williams immediately being hired as his replacement. And while the move was a bit worrisome as there is already coaching turnover after just one season, it did not cause too much alarm.

Then the news broke Monday that the Browns lost another top assistant, this time on the offensive staff.

So after just one season under Hue Jackson and the new front office, the Browns will be without their top assistants on both sides of the ball in 2017.

Losing Hamilton is not a major problem from a play-calling perspective as Hue Jackson essentially served as the offensive coordinator this past season, but losing his top assistant means the players on offense will be hearing another voice from a top assistant role, which is nothing new for the few veterans on the roster.

Coordinators often join and leave teams at a faster pace than head coaches, but it is not a good sign that the Browns lose their top two assistants after just one season of this rebuilding phase. The message of 2016 was that there would be no turnover heading into 2017. Yet once again, the players will hear new prominent voices next season.

The fact Hamilton left instead of being fired is why this situation is not a major cause for alarm. For once, a coach leaving Cleveland is not due to the front office panicking and making a drastic move after one season. However, more change is not good for a team looking for any semblance of continuity to help improve upon a 1-15 season.

The change is frustrating, but a positive takeaway is that the head coach and main front office members are still here. With this franchise, it’s the little things that fans of other teams take for granted that matter most. Having a consistent philosophy from the front office and head coach should help the team improve, compared to years when the players have to learn entirely new systems in the offseason.

The good news is that the Browns are still building this roster, so changing the coaching staff after a 1-15 season should not do too much harm. Keeping the head coach is the most important aspect of this offseason, and Jimmy Haslam seems to have finally learned his lesson.

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It keeps getting better and better.

Imagine that...assistant coaches taking on different roles...we are doomed.

I do not see this as an significant issue...

I think that the Browns should have an OC.

Can't say that I disagree with you. Does anybody know whether BB calls the plays in NE, or does that fall on Josh McD?

The perplexing part to me is when it said Hue was so comfortable with Williams running the D, he could spend more time with the O.

Ahhh, I thought that is what he did last year?

I understand the no O coordinator part since Hue is going to run his O. Most coordinators want to run their O where they can make a name for themself. Here, they don't run their O and don't call the plays. How many guys woth their salt are going to want to do that?

Even though Pep was called O coordinator, he was everthing buy that.

JMO

Josh McDaniels calls the plays.

Also, not directly to you but I think a lot of people (media included or especially) conflate the play caller with the offensive coordinator.

Being the offensive coordinator doesn't necessarily make you the play caller.

The play caller calls the plays on game day.
The offensive coordinator runs the practices that merges the run game and passing game together.

BB is a defensive guy bbrowns32, McDaniels runs the offense.

Many offensive coaches decide to call plays themselves. I like having the head coach free to oversee the whole team, but guys like Sean Payton, Mike McCarthy, and others continue to call plays after becoming head coach. Both McCarthy and Payton resumed play calling this year, and McCarthy even said, earlier this year, that he will never give up play calling ever again.

An offensive head coach who has decided that he will call plays does need someone who can step in and help run practices, help implement the the gameplan, and such. What title such a coach has is really irrelevant, because the head coach is calling the plays.

Town , that's fine if you have and established team .. We have a lot of building to do and that is where the Head Coach needs to concentrate.. A couple of three years from now it might not be a big thing .

During the season, there was quite a bit of complaining in the Post Game threads and a couple of others that Hue needed to give up his play-calling responsibilities.

I don't really agree w/that argument, but I would like to have an OC in place to help w/all the nuances of running an offense.

One of the reasons Hue was fired in Oakland was the well-publicized power play he made in the organization. Seems like he is at it again.

Wait until next season when the offense struggles and how many posters will be complaining about Hue and having too much on his plate.

I understand what you are saying, and don't disagree to any big extent. I will say this is the bed he is making.

We'll see it it stays made or ends up a crumpled mess.

At the very least we have to have a QB coach. Have we hired one as wasn't it Pep who worked with the QBs?

Yeah, Pep was the QB coach.

They didn't hire anyone. They replaced him w/Seamon who was the TE's coach last year.

Blah!

I think my favorite play calling related thing was when Jacksonville had a solid defense a few years back..

So Atlanta hired their DC, Mike Smith, to be their HC..

And everyone was like.. he doesn't even call the plays in Jacksonville..

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