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See thats what blows my mind...there is no undisputed 1st round talent QB in this draft, but people want to take a Tannehill, Bortles, or Sanchez instead of Von Miller/ Julius peppers

The only way I'd consider picking 10th is if Hooker falls there..

And then I'd move 12 up.

but you'd have no way of knowing that at 1, it'd be a gamble for sure

That was my point.

Im staying at 1, drafting Garrett, and then I'd move 12 up to grab Hooker.

That would give me pause to consider the sanity of the Bills FO.. then I'd go back and rewatch all of my Trubisky tape to try to figure out what the hell I was missing that somebody thought he was worth that.

ahh, i see what you were saying now, yeah I'd try to move up from 12 if you can snag hooker at 10

I dont think we can risk trading out of #1.

Kind of the wrong thread but fits into the way this thread has turned.

I would love to see Williams have Garrett stand up at times. Move around and rush from various different places. Never let the offense know where he is going to be coming from.

That can be a positive and negative. Sure you could move him around but by also keeping him stagnant you know where the offense will call to. I've always preferred to keep my stud in the same place unless he has a bad matchup (like when teams flip their rushers because of joe) and get creative elsewhere. Helps take some mystery from the O. We are fortunate to have collins as a stud Blitzer from the middle.

honestly you put garret next to danny and collins just behind garrett and say come stop us [censored]'s. I imagine ogbah having a field day on the other side of that =) If that don't get it done then next year I draft the biggest son of a gun at DT put him next to danny and say go wild and crash that pocket son. I got 10,000$ bonus for each sack anyone gets this season! If anyone gets 10 sacks then double the amount to 20g per sack. Then if your superman and can get 20 sacks we will double it for you again to 40g a sack and minimum $800,000 bonus.Then just in case you can do the impossible I offer a $5,000,000 bounty for 30 sacks.

Let loose our dawgs of WAR and eat us some QBs up =)

Then I start something similar for interceptions. Give them a 1 mill bonus for 5 interceptions and a 5 mill bonus for 10 interceptions.

Let's give this as an incentive to the little guy on the team to earn a huge payday and push those starters for their jobs.

Sounds like double g Gregg

If we trade all the way down to #10, we better break Fort Knox.

I would want at least this ..... for starters .....#10, #44, and probably #75 this year, plus next year's 1st and 2nd.2 second round picks, and a couple of lower picks. That might convince me .... but any less and I just hang up.

I am not giving up a shot at a generational type talent in Garrett unless I rob the other team completely blind.

Browns Scout ‏@BrownsScout 5m 5 minutes ago

If Titans rumors are true - Im all over it. #Browns wld pick 5 12 18 33. Whew.



Now that deal I'd take

i agree.

the only way we should trade back is if we're making off like bandits. anything less and i end the call with no goodbye.

I didnt realize the Titans had two firsts... makes you say hhmmmmm.. My first thought it still no though.

Yup, it would take a boatload but don't we at some point have to pick a top level guy that only comes at the top of the draft? I mean don't we?

The two titan first round picks is one I would take because pick 5 is still a great spot to land an impact player.

Two words.....Julio Jones.

Look at all those players we bagged for that deal. Who is a superstar and arguably the best WR in the league playing in the SB this Sunday? Where are all those Browns players we got in the trade? Yea, please no.

Not a fan of this rumor at all. I may entertain trading down the #12 but, I would prefer at this point to keep the 1 and trade up from the 12 to get the two guys we REALLY want.

At some point we have to believe we have a front office capable of drafting. Yes, in the past that has not been something that worked out for us. I just don't believe our defense is one player away. I also don't believe drafting say solomon at 5 is that big a drop off at the DE position. I do acknowledge that its a small drop off in potential though but to still draft in the top 5 and gain another mid first round pick is a very great thing.

I mean lets say QB's go 1,2, and 3. It's VERY possible. If we are sitting at 5 then garrett or allen or hooker is outs. If we land either one of those 3 I am crazy happy with trading back to 5 and picking up pick 18.

I'd be tempted to take the Titans' 5th and 18th plus more for the 1st overall. They don't have a 2nd so maybe a 2nd next year too plus some more.

One of Hooker, Garrett, Adams, Allen or Thomas will still be there at 5. It also allows Hue to make a play at a QB or someone like Fournette / Davis / Williams at 12 if he needs to.

I'm glad I'm not the GM but would love to sneak a peak at what our board looks like.

I agree and I believe that Hue and Gregg will have a lot of influence in the draft room and I also put trust in them to push for some solid players who can make an immediate impact. But, until it is proven it is hard to watch and fathom.

That said...I do like the Titans rumor much more than the Bills rumor.

That is the type of ridiculous offer that we would have to take.

With that said, no one has ever traded that much for a non-QB.

Imagine being able to take one of Garrett, Hooker, Allen, Thomas, or Adams with the pick five; then Lattimore, Tabor, or Barnett with pick twelve; then BPA with pick 18. And then still have picks 32 and 33 (and another second round pick). That is franchise changing.

Alas, this rumor is completely unrealistic and will not happen.

What do you mean picks 32 and 33?

The scenario described only offers us 5 and 18 for #1. We already have 12 and 33. It's not even meeting the old trade value chart, let alone the recent deals to move up (Rams, Eagles, even the deal we got from the Titans.)

I feel you bonefish. I just get tired of all the negativity some folks have. The Browns have always drafted bad so of course these guys will draft bad too routine wears thin on me. It might even be true but I'm just tired of hearing it when they haven't shown good or bad yet. I mean I wasn't that pumped about last year's draft to be honest. I didn't want to draft Coleman but Hue made his case for the pick so I feel like if anyone he should know better than me.

I feel like with Hue we have a legit talent evaluator and a head coach that knows what he wants so let him have it. The draft this year will define this new regime imho. Looking forward to seeing what happens.

I [stupidly] mixed up the 32nd and 33rd pick.

I would not do that deal that you are describing.

Lead and I were talking about the Titans dream scenario here: https://www.dawgtalkers.net/ubbthreads.php/topics/1226251/re-moving-down-from-1-scenarios#Post1226251

Hue and Gregg better push for immediate impact players. Not only do we need them but their jobs may depend on who we pick in the very near future.

I've said this before, the Julio trade itself was great, certain people just sucked at picking players..

Who Cleveland drafted with the picks they got from Atlanta in the Julio Jones trade.

Phil Taylor
Branden Weeden
Greg Little
Owen Marecic
James Michael Johnson

Who they could of had (slightly hyperbolic)

Muhammed Wilkerson
Randall Cobb
Richard Sherman
David DeCastro
Malik Jackson

^^ This. The trade made sense. We squandered the draft collateral gained. Weeden at 22 says it all. Ive told my wife if we ever draft a QB at 22 again I won't watch the Browns ever again. I'm only half joking.

j/c

Don't the Bills have a QB they could possibly throw into the deal?

This is exactly the point. You don't have hindsight to draft the players with. With some easily-spottable hype exceptions, the guys at the top are there because they have the highest likelihood of succeeding and the highest potential. Below is what I posted as "my" draft right after the real draft ended. (Side-note, there is also some pretty high comedy from my completely incorrect evaluations.) As strongly as I felt about it, several of the guys I had on the list were just guys. But I KNEW Julio was a stud. Even had we drafted exactly how I said, and we had gotten several pro-bowl caliber players (Cobb, Heyward, Maxwell) we STILL wouldn't have been as well off had we not made the trade and just taken Julio, who is a dominant player in the league.

https://www.dawgtalkers.net/ubbthreads.ph...tion#Post591068

Garrett at #1 please

Just for the record, I really want to stay at #1 and draft Garrett.

And also for the record, #5 & #18 isn't enough for me to move down, I would want more.

A. Lot. More.

I agree.
I would start with #5 and #18 this year along with their 2018 1st rounder.
That would get me talking.
Then I'd see where they would go from there

No one wants Taylor's contract.

Wait, didn't we draft Manziel at 2.......

Oh never mind.

CURRENT CONTRACT

Tyrod Taylor signed a 5 year, $90,000,000 contract with the Buffalo Bills, including a $3,400,000 signing bonus, $9,500,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $18,000,000. In 2016, Taylor will earn a base salary of $2,600,000, a signing bonus of $3,400,000, a roster bonus of $3,500,000 and a workout bonus of $6,240. Taylor has a cap hit of $6,919,573 while his dead money value is $9,772,907.