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One other question - anyone know of any 'classes' or anything like that for testing different kinds of liquor? Something like a cooking class, but for drinking. This would be for the NorthEast Ohio area, closer to Cleveland the better.

What a delicious topic. I'm a not a very heavy drinker, myself....honest. But, there is a liqueur from France I like to put on vanilla ice cream whenever I have guest over for a repast. It's call Chambord and has a deep raspberry flavour to it. I think online you can buy it for around $18 - $20 a bottle. It runs around $30.00 here in Canada at our local liquor stores run by the Provincial Government. Here's a picture:

I admire your business-like approach to finding quality intoxicants. Young people nowadays are usually not so thorough in their pursuits. Your folks must be very proud ...

I'm KIDDING

I just think this was a funny thread, mostly because of Cornchunk Ironchest, and partly because of your earnest inquisitiveness about obtaining high quality liquor.

What can I say Dave, when I set my sights on doing something, I try to do it right.

Giddy up.

Best thread EVERRRRRRR

Can someone make a list of all the stuff mentioned so far? i know i'm lazy...sorry....this thread belongs in the archives!

George Dickel is the name of a brand of Tennessee whiskey manufactured in Cascade Hollow, Tennessee, near Tullahoma. The brand is now owned by Diageo PLC. Two whiskies are produced at the George Dickel Distillery, George Dickel No.8 and No.12 Tennessee Whiskies. No.8 is an 80 proof whisky and sells for an average price of $14 U.S. for a 750ml bottle; No.12 is 90 proof, and sells for an average price of $20 U.S. for 750ml.

George Dickel's Tennessee Whisky uses the traditional Scottish spelling of whisky (as opposed to whiskey). Reportedly, this is because Dickel believed his product to be as high in quality as the best Scotch whiskies. The distillery is part of the American Whiskey Trail.


History
Originally Cascade Tennessee Whisky, it was first produced in 1877. After selling it in his retail store, George Dickel bought a controlling interest in the distillery in 1884. He also bought the exclusive rights to bottle and sell the whisky. George Dickel died in 1894; the whisky was then renamed in his honor.

Tennessee Prohibition forced the distillery to move to Kentucky in 1910. The beginnings of National Prohibition forced them to shut down altogether the next year. In 1937, Schenley Distilling Co. bought the George Dickel brand. Schenley would own and operate the distillery for the next fifty years. In 1958, after the passage of enabling legislation and a referendum, the distillery was moved back to Cascade Hollow. Although once again produced in Tennessee, Schenley shut down the Tennessee bottling line several years ago and the whisky is now hauled in tanker trucks for bottling in Louisville. Various mergers and buyouts have resulted in Diageo PLC owning the Dickel brand.

Increased production of George Dickel in the 1990s caused supply to exceed demand. In response, the distillery was closed to allow the whisky's value to rebound. The distillery was reopened in 2003, and is currently operating under the supervision of master distiller John Lunn.


Try their Sour Mash.

Jack Daniels only WISHES it were that good IMO



RIP my Grandpa Colwell. It was his favorite.

Sorry Bubba...I am an authority on Tennessee Whiskey....Jack is better.

You are just a pretender!

Actually.....Dickel is a good drink...real pretty distillery too....


Here is some history as told by Albert Schmid...


By Albert W. A. Schmid

For as many distilleries as there are worldwide the two that make Tennessee Whiskey seem to get a lot of play in popular culture. For example, Brad Paisley recently released a song called "Alcohol" where he refers to an un-named alcohol that comes from Lynchburg. He is referring of course to Jack Daniel's one of the two Tennessee whiskeys. Another example is in the Academy Award winning movie, The Wonder Boys, where the anti-hero main character, after a hard day asked for, "a Double Dickel on the Rocks". He is referring to George Dickel the only other Tennessee Whisky. That's right to be an expert on this whiskey you don't have to taste 10, 20, or 30 whiskeys...expertise can be achieved in one tasting of two whiskeys, Jack Daniel's Whiskey and George Dickel Whisk(e)y which are both made in small, dry Tennessee towns. Notice there is no consensus between the two distillers and they spell their distilled spirit two different ways, in much the same way bourbon distillers do. Even though the towns both have distilleries they are dry even 72 years after the repeal of Prohibition.


So what makes Tennessee whiskey different from Bourbon (many people confuse the two) or any other whiskey? In many ways these two whiskeys are very similar, they are made from a corn mash, aged in oak barrels, and can be substituted for each other in mixed drinks. The reason for this has to do with the fact that Tennessee whisk(e)y was known as bourbon and rye. All of this changed in 1941 when Tennessee whisky was given its own "appellation" by the United States Government because of a unique charcoal filtering process. Less than fifty years earlier Tennessee had over 700 stills legally operating inside it borders but because of Prohibition this number shrank to the two that exist today. Prohibition was a time in the United States between the 18th and 21st Amendments to the United States Constitution when the "production, transportation and sale" of alcohol was illegal. Prohibition lasted from 1920 to 1933 all over the United States. Notice that the 18th Amendment never outlawed the consumption of alcohol. If someone had the alcohol they could drink it...they just could not produce more, transport or sell the alcohol.

Other than the legal distinction of Tennessee whisk(e)y, there is one main process that makes this whiskey very different from bourbon because no bourbon producer engages in, "the Lincoln County Process". The process allows the newly distilled whiskey to be filtered through charcoal made from Maple trees. This process is called a "mellowing" process because the charcoal removes some of the harsher congeners. The trip through this Maple Charcoal filter takes about four days, after which the whiskey ends up in barrels where the whiskey ages for a minimum of four years. The two distilleries make very different distilled beverages even though both are considered from the same state, Tennessee. Another distinctive mark of Tennessee whisk(e)y is the corn content. Both Daniels and Dickel claim corn content that is to high to be considered bourbon ranging right around 80 percent of the yellow grain rounding off the mash with a blend of rye and malted barley.

Jack Daniel's Tennessee Whiskey has made the little town of Lynchburg much larger in popular culture than its population of fewer than 400 residents would indicate. Something that the real Jack Daniel's would have relished today even though he died in 1911. Now owned by the alcohol giant Brown-Forman of Louisville, Kentucky, which also owns Finlandia Vodka, several bourbon labels, Fetzer Vineyards and markets several other labels. This distillery pumps out not only the best-known Tennessee whiskey but also fierce advertising campaigns so that this well known whiskey remains popular with the masses. The label for this whiskey is also one of the most recognizable labels of all alcoholic beverages mostly because of the advertising. Jack Daniel's has also benefited from the mixture of another southern product, Coke. Every bartender knows how to make a Jack and Coke because of how often it is ordered.

Even though George Dickel Whisky is not the best known Tennessee whisky it was the first whisky in the state to refer to itself as "Tennessee Whisky" and did so almost 75 years before the United States government made that official distinction at Jack Daniel's petition. Dickel is considered by some to be the better of the whiskies while Jack Daniel's is the more popular whiskey. George Dickel is now owned by the whiskey Mega Giant, United Distillers which also owns more than a dozen distilleries in Scotland. An interesting fact about George Dickel the man, is that he was German. This is significant because most of the whisky distillers that settled in the United States are of Scottish decent, while most of the whiskey distillers are of Irish decent. Generally, Dickel whisky is aged longer than Jack Daniel's whiskey. Where some of the older Jack Daniel's is aged a little over the minimum four years George Dickel goes above and beyond, aging some of their whisky for up to eleven years. Each of the brands has the regular brand label as well as special labels that have limited production.

Something that both Tennessee whiskies share is a bit of irony, they both have not always been made in the state of Tennessee. Prohibition came early to Tennessee, so in 1910 Jack Daniel's moved to St. Louis, Missouri and George Dickel retreated north to Kentucky where it stayed until 1958 when Dickel moved back to Cascade Hollow. During this time Jack Daniels was known for "Missouri Bourbon" and George Dickel made "Dickel Whisky". So if you are in the mood for drinking whisky or whiskey that is made in Tennessee look for the whisk(e)y with the "D"s on the label, Daniels or Dickel. Even though the two are spelled differently and are different in flavor, chances are you will find something that you like in one or the other.

Scotch man here. I like dewar's when I have it, on the rocks. Usually try to order a 12 year scotch, single malt. Glenlivet is very acceptable to sip or to serve. Used to tend some bar, and people would ask this question if they were ordering for a date or for business, especially newbies. Buying a pal, a boss, a date a bad drink is lame. Good luck & keep drinking. Liquor also improves with age (yours). Suit yourself, not the cachet, pal. Here's to you!

Funny thread.

I'm no expert, but here goes.

You have to acquire a "taste" for Scotch. It's expensive....so, don't acquire the taste. *L*

Good whiskey should never be mixed w/carbonated drinks. The sugar is what makes you sick and covers the true taste of good whiskey. If I ever want to dilute my whiskey, I only use water.

I know this isn't popular, but now that I am older........I actually prefer the Canadian whiskeys to Jack, Wild Turkey, and the like. They are much smoother.

Vodka.......I like it more and more as I get older. I like Grey Goose and Stoli.

Rum: The best rum I ever had came from the islands. My friend who was an engineer and recently divorced......went out and bought himself a sailboat, charted the Atlantic, quit his job and sailed to the islands where he gave charter tours to make money. He would bring back the most incredible rums. Damn, were they smooth. You can mix those w/coke.

Tequila: I pronounce it...........To-kill-ya. It makes me crazy and I always end up getting in fights when I drink it. It's fun though. In fact, I used to snort tequila in bars on dare bets. I would then have head-butting contests w/whomever wanted to try his luck. LOL.....Then again.........I used to light Old Grand Dad on fire and drink them to impress the ladies, until one day my goatee caught on fire and like an idiot, I kept the glass to my mouth. Two girls beat the fire out and then felt sorry for me.........so it all worked out. But man......those blisters on my lips hurt for a couple of weeks.

Nowadays.......I don't drink hard liquor. Perhaps once or twice a year. If I'm working around the yard or house, I sip a couple of beers during the day and I always have a couple of glasses of Cabernet Sauvignon at night. I know......I got boring as I got older.

Now............if you ever wanna know about cigars....I can educate you. A good meal........a glass of Cabernet.....a fine woman........and a big Maduro is a slice of heaven, my young friend.

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a fine woman........and a big Maduro is a slice of heaven

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Ahhh a great American pastime aka "The Lewinsky"

Spending a lot of time in the Tailgate of late Vers, you sick of Quinn debates?

Yeah.............no one really wants to talk football. I tried, but they would rather discuss Quinn's hairdo. LOL. Did you notice there isn't much talk going on there since the QB threads died?


I never used to post in the Tailgate. Hell, it was hard enough talking football w/some of these guys, nevermind real life issues.

With that said.......I bet they're glad to see me over here.

Just shy of news in football i think. Should pick up again when the rookies start signing and we're in Training Camp or when a Bungle gets arrested.

LOL............At this time of the year, I think some of the guys have automated replies, much like emails for people who are out of the office.

Auto1: "Camp Fodder"

Auto2: "It can't hurt to bring him in."

Auto3: "I ain't worried.....Yet."

Auto4: "We have a lot of new talent."

Auto5: "I don't care who the QB is.....I just want the best guy to play."

Is it any wonder why people some people don't like me?

You missed "Depth". And one i haven't heard for a while but was popular a year or two ago....."The Diamond in the rough".

just clickin Pit

I am pretty much a beer and a shot kind of guy but being diabetic I have to watch the carbs in beer(even lite beer) so if I am out and want to have many drinks I will drink Jack and Diet Coke.

Now something I have discovered recently thanks to my wifes like of Amretto Sours is Amaretto. I know Amretto is a just a liquer but it blends very nicley with a lot of things. Try Amretto and diet coke or Amrareto and Diet Dr pepper. Very nice.


KING

VO and ginger is an awesome drink. Haven't had it in years. I'm off to the "State Store"!!

Whiskey: Jamesons, Crown or Makers Mark (in my opinion very similar), Chivas Regal

Vodka: Goose, but in reality vodka is the one liquor I won't touch

Tequila: Sauza "Hornitos", Patron, Cabo waba (official tequila of Sammy Hagar)

Rum: Don't drink the stuff.

Gin: Bombay Sapphire

what kind of cocktails do you guys like? I say we try to get some of our favorites down here. I guess I'll start.

I like keeping things simple for the most part.

Crown and coke is easily my favorite. I like it pretty strong, maybe 1:1 or so.

Captain and sprite used to be one of my favorites. It tastes a lot like cream soda.

Absolut Citron and sprite go well together, people seem to enjoy this one.

Southern Comfort and lime juice.

A couple more involved ones that I'll make sometimes for female guests...

Cosmopolitan... roughly 2:2:1:1 vodka:cranberry juice:triple sec:lime juice, shake with ice and pour into an empty cocktail glass.

Caribou Lou with grenadine... normally I'll just use a 6 oz can of pineapple juice, an ounce or so of bacardi 151 and about 2 of malibu. Splash of grenadine for color/extra flavor. Shake and pour onto ice in a highball.

and of course, vodka + just about anything, usually juice.

Tequila Bomb. We used to make a cooler of this on our camping trips. I swear it's an aphrodasiac. The women we invited to our site just loved it and really got in the mood. It worked every time.

Get a large drink cooler, and in it mix:
1 fifth tequila
6 cans beer
1 lg can Hawain Punch (remember those?)
1 qt. 7Up (remember those quart bottles?)
1 can frozen OJ concentrate
1 can any other frozen fruit concentrate

Bourbon - Woodford Reserve or Old Pogue
Whiskey - Makers Mark
Vodka - Grey Goose or Ciroc
Tequila - Cabo Wabo

Maker's Mark is a bourbon. With a name like Beerdowner, I thought you'd know your booze!

Yes. You mix in the beer. You don't really taste it, though. It gives just the right amount of carbonation (along with the 7up).

Hehe....yea, I knew that. I should've added a smilie at the end of my post, but was thinking of the good times in college with various concoctions.

I'll drink to that!

My absolte favorite liquor in the world is Cabo Wabo tequila... on the rocks. Nothing beats a sippin tequila.

Patron is another high end tequila... It's OK. It's basically a good version of 1800, which I don't like all that much.

Most people don't know what good tequila tastes like.

You are probably right yep! I'll have to keep those in mind as well!