DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum Terrelle Pryor - Chapter 2

If thats the case .. we should have him locked up by 5:00 tonight ...

I wouldn't mind giving him a 10 mil 1 year prove it deal.

me either chs. do it again

Terrelle Pryor could become the latest litmus test of the new-look Browns

Posted by Mike Florio on March 8, 2017, 10:19 AM EST

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/201...ew-look-browns/

The analytics suggest that receiver Terrelle Pryor wants more than the Browns want to pay him. And how the Browns handle this one will become the latest litmus test of the team’s new approach to building and maintaining a football team.

Last year, they let center Alex Mack and tackle Mitchell Schwartz go via free agency. Then, as part of the effort to prop up their new procedures by keeping all 14 draft picks, they released receiver Taylor Gabriel, who became a great player for the Falcons’ NFC championship team.

This year, Pryor is the biggest name (and the best story) on a team desperate for stars. But the numbers say what they say, and the Browns are willing to disregard the name on the jersey and the man in the helmet in order to honor their new procedures.

It’s a calculated risk, to be sure. As one source with knowledge of the dynamics explained it to PFT, teammates like and respect Pryor. He’s particularly respected by players who played for the Browns when Pryor arrived and tried to convert to receiver but failed to make the team. And he’s passionate about playing for the Browns; how many guys in the locker room really care as much as he seems to?

The question is whether Pryor is a true No. 1 receiver, and whether he ever will be. Corey Coleman, a first-round pick in 2016, could become the top player on the depth chart, with or without Pryor there. Until Coleman develops, they likely need someone more accomplished than either of their best two options. (Josh Gordon would be nice, if he ever gets reinstatement.)

With so much cap space, it may seem trivial for the Browns to quibble about a couple million here and a couple million there, especially for a player that is so popular with the fans. But if they’re going to let this new approach take root, they need to honor it, without exception.

The other concern, frankly, is the manner in which Pryor will react to finally getting a massive contract, six years after entering the NFL. What happens when Pryor gets paid?

To the extent that’s a reason for the Browns to not pay Pryor $12 million per year, isn’t it also a reason to not pay him, say, $8 million a year? As one source explained the dynamics, it’s financial security that causes a player to change; the degree of the security doesn’t really matter.

So what will Pryor do once he gets paid a lot of money? And how will he continue to develop as a receiver? Those are questions that need to be answered as Pryor continues his career not as a guy who throw passes but as a guy who catches them. Whether they’re answered in Cleveland or elsewhere remains to be seen.

And if Pryor gets paid, handles it well, and performs well with a new team, the Browns will be hearing about their latest decision to let one of the few good ones get away.

I don't think he takes a 1 year deal in any universe. Injuries can happen and an NFL player's career is too short. Pay the man. $10m a year, 4 years. Include incentives and get out after each year. Make it mutually rewarding if he does well and easy for both parties to make new starts if not.

What kind of garbage is this? Isn't that a question that is asked of any lesser paid guy on their early contracts before reaching their first decent FA deal. Jesus................

its a legit concern...Pryor was on the cusp of bagging groceries until Hue suggested a switch to WR, which to his credit he worked at and did well for himself..but sustainability after getting his contract is the question. Given his work ethic so far, i would say its safe to say he won't coast and will continue to work, but at the same time he could have just been working to get that contract

You could say that about literally every player.

NFL Network is reporting that we offered 12M a year.

Where's MAC who I IGNORE to rag on us for being CHEAP?

Exactly my point. I think Leadtheway missed what i was trying to say.


How is Terrelle Pryor's situation different than AJ Bouye or any other FA who comes from not making much money to making a bunch? Cause he did it for one year where as other guys sometimes do it for a couple?

The one year thing is different than not trying hard. The NFL is littered with players who were good for only one season. I have no doubt that Pryor will continue to work hard.

Me neither, he was originally a QB. Those guys generally have to put in the most work out of everyone

Am I missing something here?

Bouye's been a Secondary player his entire life.

Pryor a wanna be QB turned WR 10 months ago.

If this is a 12 a year deal, we're fools. I don't care how much UPSIDE a 28 year old has.

Bouye is making 671,000$ a year in 2016. Pryor didn't make much either. That's my only point.

Why does this guy think Pryor won't try hard, when plenty of other guys getting ready to make huge pay days, whom previously made far less, are in the same position?

Why is Leadtheway and the Profootball talk guy worried about Pryor, when the same could be said for most UFA's and guys getting new contracts?

Gotcha. Tense times. Lol

Marshall took a cut bc he wanted to stay in NY bc of family. If it weren't for that, I think he would have signed for more. Dude is still very talented, and still a #1 WR.

all is quiet now on the Pryor front. he doesnt seem linked to anybody

J/c:

The more time goes and and Pryor doesn't sign, the better indicator that is for me that he's not finding what he thought he would. We shall see.

This was my exact thought when I scanned the new headlines of sport sites today and saw not much regarding him. Drew would push and test the market though. However, the optimism of us retaining him is coming back, for me anyway.

Playing out like I thought it would...teams aren't in a rush to throw 10+ at a guy who's played receiver 1 year in his life, his best chance at the most money is probably going to stay right here

My general thought since Day 1. Still, I want him back...hope it happens soon.

yeah and I think he will know that they are back to reality

I'll add this...he has a lot of improving to do on his route-running (especially deep down the sideline) and his hands are just ok. He's still a project but also still worth the gamble and effort. How do you put a $$$ on that?

I find it interesting how much leeweay he gets on his shortcomings while on this same board the young guys drafted last year get bashed for their shortcomings and people act like those young guys - who have played WR for years - simply can't/won't improve.

I hope we get him signed...I'm not canceling my season tickets if we don't.

yeah thats my point on all the homerism...i don't see a #1 WR skill set, but he wants paid like one..I could take or leave him...he's not that impressive to me at this point..sure he could get better but at this age, how much more..they key for the Browns WR isn't pryor, I look at him like a "nice to have" we drafted coleman to be that #1 guy and a slew of other guys to help contribute..SO if all that happens and Pryor progresses, awesome, we're just that much better. Like I've said, I'm ok with a show me contract where he can earn what he thinks he's worth with production..then its win/win. Rosenhaus is the wrench..they have to be persona non grata around the NFL by now

He wants to get paid like one....as he should.This is the time for him to make money for him and his family. Why not go to the market if you think there is a chance to get paid like a #1 and you haven't been tagged. I think he's finding teams are thinking similarly as the Browns. If thats the case, and all things are equal, he stays. Hopefully.

Adam Schefter‏Verified account @AdamSchefter 8m8 minutes ago

Former Washington WR DeSean Jackson expects to sign with Tampa assuming no breakdown in final negotiations,... http://fb.me/6z8eJQWvo

Philly might be a place for TP

j/c:

I would venture to say that Pryor gets more leeway than the rookies because he produced while drawing way more attention from opposing defenses, as opposed to the rookies.

Let's see:

Pryor: 77 catches for 1,000 yards, 4 TDs

Louis: 18, 205, 0

Higgins: 6, 77, 0

Payton: 1, 3, 0

Was that a real question?

There is no doubt that TP performed well and waaaaaay out-performed the young guys. We will be a better team if we keep him.

All I'm pointing out is that there are some forgone conclusions that the young-20s guys can't get better at their positions but the 27 year old guy can. That may be the case...but no one really knows. 4th & later round WRs will take time to show.

And no...it wasn't a real question...it wasn't a question at all really...however, it was more a real statement of observation.

Edited to add:

In Pryor's 'first year' at WR he was out of the league...no one wanted him but us...and late in the year at that. How would that compare to guys who got drafted to play WR?

Ian Rapoport‏Verified account @RapSheet

The #Patriots are closing in on signing free agent CB Stephon Gilmore, source said. Means they will say bye to Logan Ryan.

Logan Ryan to the market?

After reading the most recent posts from last night and today, I'm getting the feeling that the same old posters are revving up the excuse machine again.

Begs the question as to who is driving this...the player or (more likely) the agent. We tend to put too much on the player whereas I expect the agent is the driving force...

Kenny Britt yo Cleveland

Oh, it's totally the agent. But I can't blame them for it.

Pretty low deal for Britt. I don't think it guarantees Pryor won't return.

lol this post proves to me you are as clueless as I've thought...yes he produced more than the rookies, with triple the targets they got..lmfao..you look for any reason to stir up crap..don't know why i even fed the troll...just to easy to pick on i guess.

and the production, you realize wsn't even in the top 20 in yards or even top 50 in ypc and like 47th in TD...tell me again about his production and wanting to get paid like a #1 which was my argument.. and the fact he had so many more targets but produced barely anything compared to true #1.

Not sure what the hell you are talking about. I was referring to something another poster said.

I am not sure if someone said this but this signing sets TP market price. I doubt he can get too much more than this.