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They are going to trade for JG Vers.......I feel it man!!!! I agree. Potentially, flipping Osweiler for another pick. The Nerds are geniuses!!
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Actually I feel that if you're unhappy with the way they treated the Schwartz deal, this deal may make you happy. I'm not really disappointed with the deal depending on how it all shakes out. Now if they decide to put their eggs in the Brock basket, I'll be pizzed off. If it's a leverage deal and they find a way to trade Brock off, I'll be more excited about it.
But I think you have to admit, those who made excuses for not re-signing Schwartz because of cap money, surely shouldn't be two faced and support this. They can't have it both ways Bud.
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Holy crap. That is a brilliant move. We just bought a second round pick.
I love this front office. Yup! If the CAVS pulled this move, people would be lauding them for creating something out of nothing. We spent money that would otherwise just be sitting there and got a 2nd rounder for next year and the Texans even threw in a backup QB. The Browns might want to cut Osweiler before he breaks his leg...if you know what I mean.. It doesn't matter. We still would be on the hook for the same amount. Something interesting here. We could actually try to trade him to other teams by discounting his contract now. We could tell a team that we'll pay $5 mil of that $17 mil so a QB needy team could try him out for the year at $12 mil. Would that be worth it for a team like the Jets? As long as Brock gets his $17 mil, he'd be willing to restructure. He'd get less than that on the open market. Edit*** Uggh. I should have known the FO was way ahead of me about the contract. I hadn't yet read the La Cornholio rumor when I posted this.
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I don't know what analytics says about this,but this old poker player says it is a very shrewd move by the Browns. 16 mil is the going rate for avg starters.
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One thing to think about is Brock is cheaper than franchising Jimmy G. for 2 years for a NE trade. If we sent Brock, ate his cap hit, and sent them picks for Jimmy G. then that would rock the entire NFL.
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I think it has a lot to do with some posters talking out both sides of their mouths. lmao You worry about who was "right" and who was "wrong" and who said this or whatever. I'm ganna enjoy the show. Because I don't care, as long as we win. I wouldn't care either if I were you. It's always great when people can talk out both sides of their mouth and nobody ever calls them on it. lmao
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Actually I feel that if you're unhappy with the way they treated the Schwartz deal, this deal may make you happy. I'm not really disappointed with the deal depending on how it all shakes out. Now if they decide to put their eggs in the Brock basket, I'll be pizzed off. If it's a leverage deal and they find a way to trade Brock off, I'll be more excited about it.
But I think you have to admit, those who made excuses for not re-signing Schwartz because of cap money, surely shouldn't be two faced and support this. They can't have it both ways Bud. Those who did that were idiots.......we should have resigned Schwartz. However, this is a great deal entirely independent of the Schwartz fiasco. Your backing yourself into a bad argument man, because morons from last year were stupid
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#Texans eat $9M in dead cap, #Browns take on a fully GTD $16M salary in 2017, then $18M , & $17M thru 2019 (non GTD) twitter.com/AdamSchefter/s… Don't take this as fact, but someone on facebook is saying that we got Brock and his contract and a 2nd rounder (not sure what year) and we gave up a 4th this year. Again, that was a guy who said he was a denver fan and said that Brock O was very slow to release the ball. Elway sure cried like a baby when he beat feet to Houston.. I guess we'll see.
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Does he have offset in his contract? If we cut him somebody pays him 3 mil we would be on hook for 13 right?
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Bill Polian doesn't understand the trade. Like, he literally doesn't understand. He didn't know teams could make trades. He then muttered, "Randy Moss is not a Hall of Famer. . ."
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#Texans eat $9M in dead cap, #Browns take on a fully GTD $16M salary in 2017, then $18M , & $17M thru 2019 (non GTD) twitter.com/AdamSchefter/s… Don't take this as fact, but someone on facebook is saying that we got Brock and his contract and a 2nd rounder (not sure what year) and we gave up a 4th this year. Again, that was a guy who said he was a denver fan and said that Brock O was very slow to release the ball. Elway sure cried like a baby when he beat feet to Houston.. I guess we'll see. A little late to the party, bro!
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we gave up a 4th this year. The Browns 4th..is the same value as a late round 3rd....that is not chicken feed, folks.
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Yanno.. I'd trade away Osw for a 4th. Get that pick back.
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Don't take this as fact, but someone on facebook is saying that we got Brock and his contract and a 2nd rounder (not sure what year) and we gave up a 4th this year. Again, that was a guy who said he was a denver fan and said that Brock O was very slow to release the ball.
Elway sure cried like a baby when he beat feet to Houston.. I guess we'll see. This might be my favorite post of all time.
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Benjamin Allbright @AllbrightNFL The #Browns are seriously getting calls about Brock Osweiler.
Seriously.
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we gave up a 4th this year. The Browns 4th..is the same value as a late round 3rd....that is not chicken feed, folks. Not if it's one of the compensatory 4th round picks.
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we gave up a 4th this year. The Browns 4th..is the same value as a late round 3rd....that is not chicken feed, folks. It was the 36th pick in the fourth round. Try again.
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I can't see how anyone can be anything less than pleased at this trade but that's just me. We utilise cap space for a pick. Cap space we weren't going to spend. Unless we offered Pryor a 1 year 45m deal.
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Bill Polian doesn't understand the trade. Like, he literally doesn't understand. He didn't know teams could make trades. He then muttered, "Randy Moss is not a Hall of Famer. . ." Herm Edwards seems literally offended by the idea of trying to get draft picks.
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Bill Polian doesn't understand the trade. Like, he literally doesn't understand. He didn't know teams could make trades. He then muttered, "Randy Moss is not a Hall of Famer. . ." Herm Edwards seems literally offended by the idea of trying to get draft picks. Why are these the two guys they have on to talk about this?!?! (I am not watching. It just doesn't make sense.)
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j/c...just going to brief I hear there are 2 other threads on the subject.
1. For a NY minute Brock was the best thing since Sliced Bread. Then he started playing the 2016 season. My son and I hated him...lol
2. Every now and then he would show signs of great but that was far and few between.
3. Will the new environment help? Can Hue turn this kid around? Really we didn't give up much CAP ROOM which we have plenty...and the kicker of the deal we got the Texans 2nd round pick in 2018...that gives us 3 now.
4. He'll have to beat out Kessler or RG3, is RG3 gone yet???
Didn't see this one coming...Hopefully Hue got those magic beans from the fair...lol
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There's a round table.
I watched a clip earlier.
Bunch of people waiting around for Schefters phone to buzz.
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So can I be the first to say that I would absolutely die from laughter if Houston now signs Pryor due to the cap space we just freed up for them. Not that I want TP gone but Mac's reaction would literally be priceless...
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Benjamin Allbright @AllbrightNFL The #Browns are seriously getting calls about Brock Osweiler.
Seriously.
If I'm dreaming nobody better friggin wake me up Dude. Keep me updated. This is one of the BEST moves this team has made in 30 years. People. STOP trying to figure Cap hits. Osweiler will never see Berea.
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#Texans eat $9M in dead cap, #Browns take on a fully GTD $16M salary in 2017, then $18M , & $17M thru 2019 (non GTD) twitter.com/AdamSchefter/s… Don't take this as fact, but someone on facebook is saying that we got Brock and his contract and a 2nd rounder (not sure what year) and we gave up a 4th this year. Again, that was a guy who said he was a denver fan and said that Brock O was very slow to release the ball. O Captain! My Captain! Some things never change. The Browns are certainly making this interesting.
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I just have to say, the Texans must really not like Brock Osweiler.
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I just have to say, the Texans must really not like Brock Osweiler. The best part is? They are post likely replacing him with Tony Romo. Hilarious.
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j/c...just going to brief I hear there are 2 other threads on the subject.
1. For a NY minute Brock was the best thing since Sliced Bread. Then he started playing the 2016 season. My son and I hated him...lol
2. Every now and then he would show signs of great but that was far and few between.
3. Will the new environment help? Can Hue turn this kid around? Really we didn't give up much CAP ROOM which we have plenty...and the kicker of the deal we got the Texans 2nd round pick in 2018...that gives us 3 now.
4. He'll have to beat out Kessler or RG3, is RG3 gone yet???
Didn't see this one coming...Hopefully Hue got those magic beans from the fair...lol
Ya never know! It doesn't sound like the plan entails keeping him, so I wouldn't put a lot of thought into that yet.
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I don't see why everyone is so sure Brock is a bum. Yes, he played poorly last year but he played pretty solid the year before..... If we can't trade him then I'd keep him and see if his play can improve. Nothing to lose.
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#Texans eat $9M in dead cap, #Browns take on a fully GTD $16M salary in 2017, then $18M , & $17M thru 2019 (non GTD) twitter.com/AdamSchefter/s… Don't take this as fact, but someone on facebook is saying that we got Brock and his contract and a 2nd rounder (not sure what year) and we gave up a 4th this year. Again, that was a guy who said he was a denver fan and said that Brock O was very slow to release the ball. Elway sure cried like a baby when he beat feet to Houston.. I guess we'll see. A little late to the party, bro! Normal.
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I just have to say, the Texans must really not like Brock Osweiler. Which makes their gargantuan offer last offseason seem soooooooo....gargantuan? I think it just shows. No-one knows if a QB is "it". Bill lucked into Brady IMHO. He's a great coach, GM, but I think you need luck to get a QB. They are rarer than a good Browns offseason....our luck is changing... 
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Yep, I just read that teams are interested in him...that would actually be amazing and bazaar at the same time! Stuff legends are made of lol
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I haven't felt this excited by the Browns in such a long time. The off-season and draft days are the best days to be Browns fans!
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Also, leading the league in cap space won't get us anywhere!
Seriously, the more I think about this move the better it is.
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I was hoping the Browns would do this move with Romo and the Cowboys, but this is much better.
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If somehow we can get San Fran to gives us their 1st this year for Brock, we can take Garret, trade down, pick up Adams, and then ensure we get Trubisky. I just woke up. We deserve some luck, fortune. I'm smiling like it's sunny  EDIT: I am obviously kidding above .....
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As far as the Pryor thing. Do you REALLY want to pay him 14-15 million after ONE year at WR? Pryor wanted big money. They made him an offer and the door is still open. But if we are going to sign a WR for huge bucks then I wouldn't sign Pryor I'd sign Alshon Jeffery if possible.
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As far as the Pryor thing. Do you REALLY want to pay him 14-15 million after ONE year at WR? Pryor wanted big money. They made him an offer and the door is still open. But if we are going to sign a WR for huge bucks then I wouldn't sign Pryor I'd sign Alshon Jeffery if possible. Jeffery signed with the Eagles. One year, $14 million (I think).
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we gave up a 4th this year. The Browns 4th..is the same value as a late round 3rd....that is not chicken feed, folks. A Texans 2018 2nd rounder isn't chicken feed either. Plus another late rounder this year. And wait that's not all. This deal has more legs. Just a hunch.
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Ah I didn't see that. Oh well. Still I'd offer Pryor a nice contract but I wouldn't give him top WR money. He's a really solid #2 he's not worth top money. 6-8 million per, yes. 10+ hell no.
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