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With an investigation that is still up in the air for a dv last year he does something stupid.

Ezekiel Elliott pulls down woman’s top at parade
Posted by Mike Florio on March 13, 2017, 1:30 PM EDT
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While no NFL players (or anyone else) should be pulling down a woman’s top in public and exposing one of her breasts, the last one who should be doing it is Cowboys running back Ezekiel Elliot. And yet he has done just that, via TMZ.

Elliott, who remains under investigation for domestic violence allegations made against him last year, pulled at the top of a woman and exposed her breast in an incident that was captured on video during a St. Patrick’s Day Parade.

Per TMZ, one of Elliott’s representatives claims it was “all in good fun” and that the “woman wasn’t upset.”

Whether the woman whose clothing was partially removed in a public place by Elliott is upset doesn’t matter. Whether the league office views the behavior in a negative way does. If the folks at 345 Park Avenue trying to sift through the evidence are still undecided on whether to believe Elliott or the woman who has accused him of five incident of domestic violence in a six-day period, this is the kind of thing that could break the tie under the very low “more likely than not” standard of evidence.

It also could amount to an aggravating circumstance for any violation happening in 2016, enhancing the punishment the league imposes. It also could amount to a separate violation of the Personal Conduct Policy.

Given the explanation provided nearly seven years ago when Goodell suspended Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger, it’s not a stretch to conclude that the league would take action for this kind of conduct regardless of whether the woman was upset by it.

“My decision today is not based on a finding that you violated [the] law,” Goodell told Roethlisberger. “[Y]ou are held to a higher standard as an NFL player, and there is nothing about your conduct . . . that can remotely be described as admirable, responsible, or consistent with either the values of the league or the expectations of our fans. . . . Your conduct raises sufficient concerns that I believe effective intervention now is the best step for your personal and professional welfare.”

It doesn’t matter whether Elliott, the woman, the media, the fans, or anyone else believe that Elliott’s conduct crosses the line. What matters is whether the NFL believes it, and whether the NFL will do something about it.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/03/13/ezekiel-elliott-pulls-down-womans-top-at-parade/

So stupid!

Once again an athlete that thinks he is above the law ...

Dumb. Looked intentional.

Why was there a St. Patrick's day party now, and not on the 17th?

I was downtown Columbus on Saturday and everyone was decked out in green. I was very confused - I even had to validate on my phone that St. Patrick's day was not Saturday. Really odd.

Yeah, that's kind of what I was getting at. I had to look at my calendar to see when St. Pat's day was. It's this coming Friday.

Seemingly a great day for a St. Pat's day party.

Why have some parade a week early?

pretty dumb

Sometimes places will bump up dates if they are expecting bad weather on the actual day of event.

There's a second video where he attempts to do it again.

She slaps his hand away.

Then immediately pulls her shirt down herself.

To me this is just an example of how society is changing now that every one is walking around with a camera in their hand.

quote from the article:

"Whether the woman whose clothing was partially removed in a public place by Elliott is upset doesn’t matter."

Isn't this all that really does matter?

When you are in the situation Elliott is in? No. Image matters.

The last one? Really? Zeke has committed worse crimes than guys like Mixon, Manziel, Rice, Hardy, Ben, Hill, etc?

Many young people have fun. Many young people drink. Many young people don't think the naked body is disgusting. Many young people are sexual in nature. Many young people don't have a stick up their butts.

Well yeah, right.

Given that the moment can be caught "on film".

That a photo can be made of the action.

If the girl doesn't care, who cares?

The little children? The Pope? Is someone's "sensitivities" brutally offended?

I don't see a newsworthy event here.

I guess an NFL player's image is to be that of a perfect gentleman.

That doesnt make it ok to sexually assault a woman.

You have a daughter?

What? I never suggested that.

I think the two of them were having fun.

If he had done it w/out her consent, it would be a completely different story and I would be slamming him, much as I have w/Mixon, the Oklahoma RB.

Kids get drunk and have fun. They do some dumb things. I think that is the case here.

Sexual assault is completely different. IF the girl comes out and complains that she didn't want Zeke to do what he did and she is upset...........I will completely change my tune.

quote above by eve:

"That doesnt make it ok to sexually assault a woman."

Well, that brings up an interesting point.

If the woman didn't really care, if the actions were of a playful nature (as opposed to an aggressive unwanted advance), it's not sexual assault.

Maybe it could qualify as misdemeanor disorderly conduct.

I dont know. Public indecency? If the girl doesnt care then I dont care, but a lot of people(females) get stars in their eyes for celebrities and submit to things they would not ordinarily agree to because of influence.

She most definitely was surprised that he did it. Whether she was offended or not, if this is let go, I think it opens the door for the "I didn't think she'd mind" defense.

Who said that?

When the league is investigating you for domestic violence it is probably best not to get caught in these type of situations.

Even though I didn't want to I felt I had to search out, find and watch the video for scientific purposes....Okay, honestly? I think this is a case where they were just having fun. She even egged him on a little bit beforehand. No harm, no foul. IMHO

I dont know what sexist garbage you are posting, but leave my name out of it.

What was he thinking??!!

Now if he had just grabbed her in the P**** , it would be no problem.

Elliot has to take her furniture shopping, first.

In the great words of Nelly.

'I am just playing.......Unless you going do it....."

Didn't any of you ever see the wedding scene in the 1977 Football movie Semi-tough with Bert Reynolds & Kristofferson? Same exact circumstance.

Really what in the world was he thinking? Dumb move Zeke.

If you look at both videos, it was not a malicious attack or anything like that. BUT Zeke cannot do that due to the situation he is in. A moment of judgement lapse and he is now going to hear from the NFL. Who was looking for ANYTHING on him!

Wasn't his domestic assault case already proven to be fabricated?

This video is stupid. But I doubt anything will come of it.

I'm in agreement with Peen.. if the girl doesn't care then I don't care... I like boobies.

This thread needs an infographic on consent...

Agreed...consent doesn't mean force the act first to see if she has a problem with it. This girl obviously wasn't expecting Zeke to pull her shirt down in public. Because she didn't have a problem with it after the fact does't make it ok. Like I said, before you know it someone else is going to do this and try to play the "I didn't thing she'd mind" card.

Right.

It's illegal for the girl to expose her own breast in public.

It's not the fact that breasts are unlawful when displayed in public.

It's the fact someone does something without permission. I knew two guys in high school who got fired for slapping other female teenagers on the behind. This is back in 2006, actually. They were warned "we could press further charges, but we'll let you guys just get fired."

Sure, she pulls her shirt down only after she thinks about it herself. You could consider this sexual assault with him doing this. The "young people just having fun!" defense bothers me.

Not all young people acted like fools. Many stayed away from drugs, waited till a legal age to drink alcohol, and never "partied" to be like the cool kids.

Anyhow, here's an infographic on consent.

In general I agree with you... What if it wasn't NFL star Zeke Elliot that did it? What if it was a casual acquaintance or even a stranger that just reached over and pulled her top down?

I mean if she doesn't care then I still don't care but it's a bad look.. it's a bad precedent to set that this is ok.

Where did this happen? Because under Ohio law women can legally go topless unless it's forbidden on a local statute.

Choosing to go topless and have someone else pull your top down, without consent, are two different things. Obviously.

Surprising that this needed to be pointed out.

Well, maybe ddub didn't talk about it because the girl later left w/Zeke and there were reports that she said it was consensual.