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Let me finish up yesterday's GOOD NEIGHBOR version ... this is really special ... will be interesting to see Swish's and Rockets and the rest of the lefts outrage over this one ... *LOL* .. i won't be holding my breath waiting for that one ... Portland - this made me think ... hopefully if u ate fish at your illegal buddies restaurant that none of the fish came from here ... Also ... u love the food at the illegals restaurant ... one of u guys was whining about having a friend thats a cook but doesn't make enough money ... well maybe u can put him in touch with the Mexican restaurant guy ... oh wait ... he prolly pays ILLEGALS 4 BUCKS an hour to get around the minimum wage laws ... I'm sure he has a never ending supply of them ... But hey .. lets keep the border open ... u get good food at a great price .... but screw your bud .. Karma's a beatch ... *L* .. This ones personal to me .. i lived in Imperial Beach ... still have friends there ... http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/03/...rnia-mayor.htmlTsunami of sewage spills’ at Mexican border ‘deliberate,’ says California mayor The massive sewage spill in Tijuana, Mexico that polluted Southern California beaches last month appeared to be a deliberate move, a local official said. More than 140 million gallons of sewage spilled into the Tijuana River in Mexico that flowed into the Pacific Ocean on the U.S. side of the border. The spill, which spanned from Feb. 4 to Feb. 23, was caused during repairs to a major sewer pipe, the International Boundary and Water Commission said Serge Dedina, the mayor of Imperial Beach which is located about 10 miles outside Tijuana, told the Los Angeles Times the spill looks like it was “deliberate.” “It saves (the Mexican agencies) a lot of money in pumping costs, and ultimately, they can get away with it and do it all the time, just on a much smaller scale,” Dedina said. He described the incident as the “tsunami of sewage spills.” San Diego County beaches, which typically would be closed by such a spill, were already off-limits to swimmers and surfers due to runoff as a result of recent storms, Dedina said. Imperial Beach, for example, was closed for days in 2012 after a pipe broke in Tijuana and spewed nearly 3 million gallons of sewage into the ocean. Over the years, several large sewage spills on both sides of the border have worsened conditions in the Tijuana River, one of the most polluted waterways in the country, according to the San Diego Union-Tribune. Old sewage infrastructure in Tijuana and the lack of any plumbing in some residences there have been blamed for the problem. Dedina said last week his office will seek an investigation into the spill and its aftermath, adding that U.S. officials “must make fixing sewage infrastructure a priority and issue of national security.” Dave Gibson, an executive officer of the San Diego Regional Water Quality Control Board, agreed with Dedina's assessment. He said, "at least a notification would be a good neighborly thing to do, to let us know what was coming down the river before it got here so we could alert the public." The Associated Press contributed to this report. Click for more from the Los Angeles Times. LOL!! I never said they were illegal. I guess in your world any mention of 'brown people' must mean they're illegal. FAIL! I said I was thankful for the immigrant Latino family. The Chevez's. You heard a Latino name and ASSumed illegal. Priceless. You are who we think you are. That was my point earlier, he hears a Latino sounding name and assumes illegal. Hes the type of bigot who yells at my Puerto Rican friends to go back to get a green card, or tell them they are going to get deported.
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In a thread that is all about illegals I can see where he assumed the subject was an illegal.
I always find it funny how when the Left is losing their argument they sooner or later turn to name calling.
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Those of us that see through his rhetoric.
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Those of us that see through his rhetoric. Rhetoric? He has presented verifiable case after case.
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Those of us that see through his rhetoric. Well, one thing for sure........the rhetoric coming from your side sure isn't obvious.  Oh, I better clarify. I'm not talking about illegal immigration. I'm talking about the constant BS attacks on everything that Trump does. I'm waiting for the thread: "Why didn't Trump wear black shoes? And how that proves he is a racist.
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In a thread that is all about illegals I can see where he assumed the subject was an illegal.
I always find it funny how when the Left is losing their argument they sooner or later turn to name calling. That would be true of either side, but I am very far from being the left. I am an American. Not left or right.
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Those of us that see through his rhetoric. Well, one thing for sure........the rhetoric coming from your side sure isn't obvious. Oh, I better clarify. I'm not talking about illegal immigration. I'm talking about the constant BS attacks on everything that Trump does. I'm waiting for the thread: "Why didn't Trump wear black shoes? And how that proves he is a racist. Has there ever been a bigger bunch of sore losers?
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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Sore losers?
Trump has already spent 6 million on vacation. Bannon has allegedly committed voter fraud. Sessions most definitely lied under oath. Pence had his private email hacked. 30 civilians were killed in the Yemen raid (10 of them were children) and Trump called it "largely successful" on the heels of refusing to get intelligence briefings.
This is only a small fraction of why we're all losers in this. But just keep your head in the sand and continue to think of those of us that don't fall in line as sore losers.
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In a thread that is all about illegals I can see where he assumed the subject was an illegal.
I always find it funny how when the Left is losing their argument they sooner or later turn to name calling. Like moths to a flame 40 ... moths to a flame .... I knew they weren't illegal ... just threw it out there to see the reaction ... and just as I suspected ... The lefties are more concerned about a mis categorization of the residency status than they are about AMERICANS MURDERED BY ILLEGALS ... Definetly not the reaction U would expect from Patriots .... guess I'm a racist because i care about CITIZENS more than NON CITIZENS ...
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For today's installment were going to look at the opposite end of the spectrum from what our judge of Latino descent did ... let me guess ... I'm racist for pointing that out .. *LOL* ... Here u have a State trooper doing HIS JOB and calling ICE on an illegal that has a criminal record and wanted on a felony and he'd been deported 4 times all ready ..... and the State Trooper's in trouble cause he didn't follow protocol and let the illegal go ... Anyone see a problem with that .... i know i do .. *LOL* ... What is wrong with us ... this is BEYOND STUPID!!!!! http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/state-trooper-in-hot-water-over-calling-ice/article/2615223State trooper in hot water over calling ICE By JEREMY LOTT • 2/18/17 12:16 AM A politician in Washington state wants to know why cooperating with federal immigration authorities landed a state trooper in hot water. Steve O'Ban, R, a state senator from Tacoma, Wa., sent a letter to Gov. Jay Inslee, D, Friday expressing "serious concerns" over an administrative review the Washington State Patrol may be undertaking at the governor's request. An unnamed state trooper is being grilled for telling Immigration and Customs Enforcement about one of their suspects last week, wanted on a felony warrant and found after a traffic accident on I-5. That man is Armando Chavez Corona, who ICE says was convicted on a felony drug charge and departed to Mexico four times from 1996 to 2000. The trooper did not detain Chavez Corona, who was not at fault in the accident, but ICE picked him up at the scene of the collision after the trooper contacted the agency. He currently awaits deportation. "The State Patrol is reviewing whether the trooper followed an internal policy that limits how much troopers can do to help federal immigration officials," reported the Tacoma News Tribune Friday. O'Ban insinuated in his letter that Inslee is politicizing what should be a law enforcement issue. "I'm concerned that this investigation is motivated at least in part by the governor nationalizing this issue, when it shouldn't be," he said. In the letter, he warned, "Let us be clear, the issues raised here are not controversies of the new administration but are policies and practices of the Obama administration. "President Obama himself stated, 'If you're a criminal, you'll be deported.' "In addition, under President Obama an individual with an 'aggravated felony' was a top priority for deportation." Inslee so far has not responded to the senator's letter. In the past he has set himself firmly against Donald Trump's immigration policies. Last June, Washington's governor denounced candidate Trump as a "clear and present danger to our state."
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That's what I don't understand about this entire thing. Obama deported millions and nothing was really said. The entire thing is stupid. I'm not sure when America forgot what the word illegal meant.
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"I am all for Dreamers. I want people to seek the dream. They just have to seek the dream legally.
First we need to close the border. Then, I am all for finding a way to normalize those here illegally who haven't been ciminal. I am not big on just shipping people back if they have been good eggs while here.
The President has even conceded that we won't simply start shipping people back in mass. Good for him. It isn't practical and probably isn't the right thing to do. But, they have to step forward and seek the legal means towards citizenship, or at minimum gaining a valid work visa. Those usually only last a year. I would be open in changing that and granting visas that lasted 2-3 years. I agree with Swish in that we do have jobs that would be hard to fill without immigrent labor."
So I'm not sure you understand my position. Maybe now you do?
In another thread you admit that your spelling isn't very good.
"I'm a bad speller ... I can learn to spell ... "
Yeah the time for that was grade school. What happened?
I also have concerns for your punctuation, sentence structure, reading, and comprehension. So when you say this...
"I knew they weren't illegal ... just threw it out there to see the reaction ..."
...it makes me doubt the validity of your statement. Frankly I don't think you did know they weren't illegal. I think you assumed they were. Maybe I'm wrong.
Then there's this from the other thread.
"Graduate .. go live for 10 years and then get back to us ... LIFE EXPERIENCE is going to change an awful lot of your thought processes"
I've been a nurse since 1997. In the past 20 years I've seen more death, and financial hardship brought on by illness, than most people will see in a lifetime. So yes I have changed. I'm more compassionate towards my fellow man than I ever have been. It's why I want my tax money to go to helping them out. Not to bail out billionaire businessmen and their bankruptcies.
"you think I'd waste my time trying to teach someone that has ZERO desire to learn cause they think they know it all."
Turning those words back on you. We're all trying to teach you something. We don't consider it a waste of our time. We just wish you'd listen and learn. But based on your above noted lack of grade school level skills, I doubt we'll ever be successful at teaching you punctuation or proper use of there, their, and they're. Let alone compassion or grace.
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Hummm ... odd ... cause Clem pretty much used them exact same words ... can't remember exactly how he phrased it ...but he basically said ... I WAS NOT WORTHY OF HIS TIME ... and thats fine ... I'm a big boy ... just not so sure you guys really want to teach me ... *L* ...
I could care less weather u believe me or not ... i know who and what i am .. i don't lie ... i don't need your approval or validation to make me feel good about myself .. my life has done that for me ...
My actual feelings ...
- get rid of the criminals ...
- build the wall ...
Then we can have the convo about the rest .... U see Port ... i may have bad grammar and can't spell ... but that doesn't make me STUPID or UN-INTELLIGENT ... it means my Spanish may be better than my english ... *LOL* ...
We've been told "lets legalize everyone twice" and then we'll build the wall ... i don't need a 3rd strike on that one ... actually we may have been all ready been told that 3 times ...
I also understand what the words FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY mean ... i just learned how to spell them and use them in sentences but I've known what they meant for a long time ... *L* ...
Other words I'm familiar with ...
E-VERIFY ...
Guess thats the only other one for now ... *LOL* ...
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I would suggest a dictionary. I don't think we should joke about that. As a teacher, I have had many students who were poor spellers. A dictionary is a nightmare for them. While a person like you can use a dictionary to your advantage, their guesses at how words are spelled are so far off that they often struggle for long periods of time trying to find a word in the dictionary and typically end up extremely frustrated and discouraged. Poor spelling is not linked to intelligence. I don't think we should make fun of poor spellers. Well............w/one exception. For example, I always get a kick out of this misspelling on message boards and other social media venues: "You are such a looser." 
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WOW ... 35 years old ... deported twice ... has a 1 year old with a 15 year old .. that means they were having sex when she was 13 ... TRUE AMERICAN VALUES ... THE 15 YR. OLD WAS 9 MONTHS PREGNANT WHEN HE DECIDED to end their lives ... http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/andr...wYwRVvw.twitterIllegal Alien 2x Released by ICE Charged With Shooting Underage Girl Carrying His Unborn Child (CNSNews.com) – A 35-year-old illegal alien, twice released by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) under the Obama administration, allegedly shot a 15-year-old girl, killing her and their unborn child with whom she was 9 months pregnant, the Houston Chronicle reported on March 9. ICE initially arrested Armando Garcia-Ramires of Mexico in January of 2011 through the Criminal Alien Program of San Antonio, but released him a month later, ICE spokeswoman Nina Pruneda said. In April 2016, ICE arrested him again and then again released him the following month. Shortly after his second release, he impregnated the victim, 15-year-old Jennifer Delgado, before allegedly killing her and their unborn child 9 months later. He shot her multiple times in the head and, as My San Antonio reports, shot himself in the mouth in an apparent suicide attempt. Following treatment at a local hospital, authorities booked Garcia-Ramires into Bexar County jail, where he remains on a $2 million bond. He has a 1-year-old son with the deceased Delgado.
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Bro............a couple of questions for you:
--Are all illegal aliens violent criminals like the ones from the articles you are posting?
--Hell, are most illegal aliens violent criminals?
--Are violent, despicable crimes committed by almost every group on the face of the earth?
Here is my opinion. You are being just as hateful as the guys you are arguing with. Taking extreme sides in social/political issues is not the sign of intelligence. It's a sign of bias.
And I know you are not ignorant. Time to lighten up and not be consumed by hate and bias. Try doing some good in the world. You'll feel better!
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But Vers, these crime are heinous like any crime committed by a citizen. What makes this worse is these people shouldn't even be here to commit these crimes. We can prevent these crimes!
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Hummm ... odd ... cause Clem pretty much used them exact same words ... can't remember exactly how he phrased it ...but he basically said ... I WAS NOT WORTHY OF HIS TIME Correction: I said it was pointless to engage with you- not that you aren't 'worth my time.' I really don't think that highly of myself. I should have been more explicit: It's your style that I find incompatible. If you read me, you know I do some lengthy joints with guys like DC, Devil, etc. They're actually conversations, which I find very pleasurable. When they see things differently, they not only let me know, but the go into detail to explain why. That's the style I'm most comfortable with. Their posts read like op-eds, and are thoroughly thought-through. With them, I get one post that covers a subject pretty completely. You, on the other hand, drop 'hit & run' posts that limit talk to back & forth counterpunches. Feels too much like the Smack Shack for my tastes. Nothing wrong with that style, if folks are into it. See... for me it isn't about 'educating' you. It's about a good back & forth that gives both parties something to think about. When you post things like "1+1=2" and "follow the bouncing ball," it comes off every bit as snarky and condescending as the stuff folks say about you. I don't want to be part of exchanges like that. Now yeah, I'll tease back & forth with 40, and drop one-liners into threads for a laff or two... but constant flaming and 'verbal checkers' just ain't for me. Hope that clears things up.
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Clem...........just so you know. I have met Diam in real life. I actually stayed at his house in NY for a few days. He's a really good guy w/a big heart.
He's old school and talks tougher than he is. I'm sure you know the type.
When my son was diagnosed w/cancer, no one talked to me more often than Diam. We talked in PMs and on the phone. He invited my entire family to come to his house and have dinner and watch the games. He cares, bro.
I come to this forum and hope for music threads, movie threads, comedy threads, good deed threads, possible solutions to our issues threads............and mostly I am disappointed.
Threads like this one, racial threads, and 52 Trump is crazy/evil/despicable threads rule the board. They're all the same, Clem. They are fueled by narrow-minded hate where almost all of the participants refuse to give an inch and are not interested in educating themselves, but instead, promoting their own biased views on these touchy subjects.
I typically read one or two posts and then skip the dozens of others because it's like reading something dirty. They have a huge Ewwwwww factor to them.
It is my wish that people would perhaps curtail spending so much energy on the negative, hateful, biased points of view and instead, work together to try and find some solutions to our ever-present issues.
Can you imagine what we could accomplish if we took all this negative energy and used even half of that amount on making the world a better place?
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There goes Clem, attacking a good man again, with vengeance.
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I know you know this and were joking around, but there are a ton of people on here who have a hard time comprehending the written word, so I better say this:
That wasn't my intent at all. Clem is a great guy, just as Diam is a great guy. They are two of my better friends on this board. I respect both men.
Clem might be the single best poster on this board. I often PM him for advice on threads and to ask him to respond to certain topics, such as the music threads.
Clem is very intelligent, articulate, and has a great moral fiber. I respect him tremendously.
We disagree on some things. We come from different circumstances. But, we always keep it civil. I think it is more about respect for the person than anything else.
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Thanks for clearing that up ... If you ever want to have a serious talk, let me know ... U tried a few times when i first came over but I was to busy doing the ... how'd u phrase it ... i was "verbal checking" and flaming .... guilty as charged ... If u wanna have a serious chat ... let me know ... I'll take the time and treat you with the respect you've earned over the years ... plus your smarter than me and that's how u learn ... If not, i can still read u and learn anyhow ...  ....
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Bunch of crap! Now everyone is getting along and patting backs.
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speak for yourself.
it's war everytime Diam decides to aim his crap my direction.
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Bro............a couple of questions for you:
--Are all illegal aliens violent criminals like the ones from the articles you are posting?
--Hell, are most illegal aliens violent criminals?
--Are violent, despicable crimes committed by almost every group on the face of the earth? No, No and Yes ... Here is my opinion. You are being just as hateful as the guys you are arguing with.
How am i being hateful here? ... U must not have read my recent posts ... i just said that ... - get rid of the criminals ... - build the wall ... - then we'll talk about the rest ... How is that hateful? ... I don't get it ... Man ... i better stop now .. *L* ..
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speak for yourself.
it's war everytime Diam decides to aim his crap my direction. Ahh, that's better...
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it's war everytime Diam decides to aim his crap my direction. War???? ... oh boy ... guess you've amped it up a few notches since FLEXING ... *LOL* ...
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Nice write-up on our boy Diam.
I don't doubt that he's a good guy... and I've never actually disliked him. A good 70-80% of his football posts I agree with. Like I said, for me it's a matter of style. Some Dawgs enjoy that approach; I'm just wired for something else. No hate here.
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it's war everytime Diam decides to aim his crap my direction. War???? ... oh boy ... guess you've amped it up a few notches since FLEXING ... *LOL* ... you're really playing that word out. please stop.
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There goes Clem, attacking a good man again, with vengeance. Thanks for your help, 'Spinderella'....
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Mea Culpa,mea maxima culpa . Don't buy the quasi repentant bit as it doesn't suit the online persona that you have gone to great lengths to cultivate . Own it ! You may indeed be the " tough but tender hearted " old man that Vers paints you to be but your actions just show a shallow bitter bigot . As I said Own it !
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Mea Culpa,mea maxima culpa . Don't buy the quasi repentant bit as it doesn't suit the online persona that you have gone to great lengths to cultivate . Own it ! You may indeed be the " tough but tender hearted " old man that Vers paints you to be but your actions just show a shallow bitter bigot . As I said Own it ! And what are you, Ire?
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Mea Culpa,mea maxima culpa . Don't buy the quasi repentant bit as it doesn't suit the online persona that you have gone to great lengths to cultivate . Own it ! You may indeed be the " tough but tender hearted " old man that Vers paints you to be but your actions just show a shallow bitter bigot . As I said Own it ! Repentant? .... *LOL* .... i have zero to be repentant for ... sheesh, its almost like U don't even know me ...  ....... so with NADA to be repentant for .... no worries about that part of the "bit" ... *L* ...
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Joined: Mar 2013
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Joined: Mar 2013
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Don't criminalize acts of kindnessElise Marciano (letter, March 23), president of the U.S. Citizens for Immigration Law Enforcement, is wrong to paint all illegal immigrants with the same brush. In her letter, she states, "Legal immigrants know where to file for citizenship .Ÿ.Ÿ. illegals don't care to be citizens unless it gets them our welfare and Social Security payments." Many illegal immigrants have filed the paperwork for green cards and very much want to become citizens. They pay taxes and work long hours for low pay at jobs that Americans do not want. As with any group, there are some who abuse the system, but to characterize all undocumented workers as parasites who only want to drain the American taxpayer dry is both inaccurate and unfair. Sunnye Ann Rosasco (letter, March 23), also a member of Marciano's group, accuses those who decline to join the group of "laziness, cowardice and conflicted, misplaced loyalties." While their concern for American security is admirable, both Marciano and Rosasco are too ready to demonize anyone who disagrees with them. Perhaps this is why they are having so much trouble getting people to join their group. I agree that border enforcement needs drastic improvement. However, it is morally reprehensible to enact laws that punish charity workers who aid undocumented aliens. Do we really want to live in a country that criminalizes acts of human kindness? It is logistically impossible, not to mention too expensive, to deport every illegal alien in the country. What is needed is comprehensive immigration reform that realistically balances the nation's security and labor needs. It takes an extraordinary amount of courage to leave one's home and start over in a foreign land. To suggest that illegal aliens have it easy is to ignore the human tragedies behind the statistics. http://www.newstimes.com/news/article/Don-t-criminalize-acts-of-kindness-96477.php Sounds like a true American triumph story to me. Here's the thing, y'all. Classifying any one group of people w/one term or definition is ignorant. I hate using that word and understand that it is inflammatory, but I think it is so important that we move away from labeling people by groups and move to judging individuals based on their own merit.
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