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I think the Browns and media need to start treating this guy like he is a member of the team.


He is not going to be on the team.


I would keep him over Kessler and the kid from Stanford.


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I think the Browns and media need to start treating this guy like he is a member of the team.


He is not going to be on the team.


I would keep him over Kessler and the kid from Stanford.



No thanks... I'll stick with Kessler.

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Originally Posted By: Day of the Dawg
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I think the Browns and media need to start treating this guy like he is a member of the team.


He is not going to be on the team.


I would keep him over Kessler and the kid from Stanford.


Kessler was better last year on a worse team.

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I think the Browns and media need to start treating this guy like he is a member of the team.


He is not going to be on the team.


I would keep him over Kessler and the kid from Stanford.


Kessler was better last year on a worse team.


Stats always tell the complete story.

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Romans 10:9 "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and believe in thy heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved."
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I think the Browns and media need to start treating this guy like he is a member of the team.


He is not going to be on the team.


I would keep him over Kessler and the kid from Stanford.


Kessler was better last year on a worse team.


Kessler was terrible. He was part of the reason why they went 1-15. A back up QB at best. I would like him to be this teams 3rd string emergency QB at best next season.


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Originally Posted By: Day of the Dawg
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I think the Browns and media need to start treating this guy like he is a member of the team.


He is not going to be on the team.


I would keep him over Kessler and the kid from Stanford.


Kessler was better last year on a worse team.


Kessler was terrible. He was part of the reason why they went 1-15. A back up QB at best. I would like him to be this teams 3rd string emergency QB at best next season.


And he was better than Osweiler.

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Osweiler won a playoff game. Kessler has yet to win a pre season game.


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Originally Posted By: Day of the Dawg
Osweiler won a playoff game. Kessler has yet to win a pre season game.


Yes. Brock Osweiler won the playoff game against Connor Cook and the Raiders. The Texan's defense (and Derek Carr being hurt) had nothing to do with the victory.

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Osweiler won a playoff game. Kessler has yet to win a pre season game.


Yes. Brock Osweiler won the playoff game against Connor Cook and the Raiders. The Texan's defense (and Derek Carr being hurt) had nothing to do with the victory.


A year prior he also beat the New England Patriots 30-24 when they came into the game 10 - 0. He led a touchdown drive with just over 1 minute remaining to tie the game and a touchdown drive in OT to win the game.

I am sorry Cody Kessler has a mind to play QB in the NFL but not the body. He cannot withstand the punishment and cannot throw deep. Reminds me of Ken Dorsey.


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Os is not the answer, but neither is Kessler. I do expect Kessler to improve, but he either does not have the ability to throw deep, or the stones. I do not see more reps as the answer to that.

As someone said, if Kessler is our 3rd string/emergency QB, then OK. If he is the #1 or #2 QB, then we have issues at QB.

Right now, Os has the most ability of any QB on the roster. And if we bring in Geno Smith, then Os still has the most ability of any QB on the roster.

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Why do we always have a QB with a "good football mind" and a QB with the physical tools, but never both in the same person..


Am I the only one that pronounces hyperbole "Hyper-bowl" instead of "hy-per-bo-le"?
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Why do we always have a QB with a "good football mind" and a QB with the physical tools, but never both in the same person..



Because when we find that person we will stop looking for a franchise QB.


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From this article, Brockwieler after the playoff loss..

"Any time you don't end your season with a Super Bowl championship, you're going to be disappointed. And I'm certainly disappointed. It's easy to point out the negative from this year, but there were also a lot of great things that we can certainly build on in the future."

I have not watch any video of him saying this, but my initial reaction, was how boring that statement is.

Like, he had been think since the game ended what he should say.

Like, he doesn't actually care.

Maybe I'm reaching.


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I find it somewhat sad that we Brown's fans have a substantial discussion as to which of quarterbacks stinks less.

Trade for Jimmy G!

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Trade for Jimmy G!


He's not up for trade or has something changed?

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He's not up for trade....? What does that mean in English?

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I find it somewhat sad that we Brown's fans have a substantial discussion as to which of quarterbacks stinks less.

Trade for Jimmy G!


If the Pats would trade Jimmy G to us I would do that in a heartbeat. Besides that there are not really many intriguing QB solutions this year.

It is interesting that a team like the Denver Bronco's who feel they are a QB away and have interest in Brock. But, a QB starved team like the Browns want to trade him. What am I missing?


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1. There is nothing wrong with Competition - if he is here let him compete with Kessler for the starting job.

2. Everyone is comparing Kessler to BO is thinking about Kessler's performance as a Rookie vs. that of a 4-5 year Pro.

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And your source is ??

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That's why it is so hard to find a franchise QB. Hard to find both those qualities in one guy at the same time.

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Brock Osweiler - QB - Browns

Browns coach Hue Jackson is preparing as if Brock Osweiler will be on the team this season.
"Obviously, he's a player on our team and we're going to treat him just like we do all of our other quarterbacks until he's not," said Jackson. It's classic coach-speak and really doesn't mean much of anything. Assuming the Patriots hold on to Jimmy Garoppolo, the Browns should select a quarterback early in the draft, possibly as soon as 12th overall. The Browns could shop Osweiler but releasing him is the more likely outcome. He's not long for Cleveland.

Source: NFL.com Mar 26 - 1:11 PM




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"Obviously, he's a player on our team and we're going to treat him just like we do all of our other quarterbacks until he's not," said Jackson.

Sounds like what he said about RGIII right before he cut him ...


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Brock Osweiler - QB - Browns

Browns coach Hue Jackson is preparing as if Brock Osweiler will be on the team this season.
"Obviously, he's a player on our team and we're going to treat him just like we do all of our other quarterbacks until he's not," said Jackson. It's classic coach-speak and really doesn't mean much of anything. Assuming the Patriots hold on to Jimmy Garoppolo, the Browns should select a quarterback early in the draft, possibly as soon as 12th overall. The Browns could shop Osweiler but releasing him is the more likely outcome. He's not long for Cleveland.

Source: NFL.com Mar 26 - 1:11 PM


He sounds very excited to work with Osweiler.

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Some quotes from Hue Jackson on Brock Osweiler (sorry if some have already been posted):

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“Obviously, he’s a player on our team and we’re going to treat him just like we do all of our other quarterbacks until he’s not,” Coach Hue Jackson told Steve Wyche of NFL Network during taping of “Path to the Draft,” a show set to air March 27. “He’s a guy that’s going to come in and compete.


This does not seem like a glowing endorsement. I think it's similar to something they said about Griffin earlier the off-season.

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“We haven’t had an opportunity to meet with him from a football standpoint because of the rules. But once we start our offseason program, Phase One, we’ll get a chance to know him and he’ll get to know us.”


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“I think you’re always looking to improve that (quarterback) room because I think we all know that that’s the driver of your football team,” Jackson told Wyche. “I think we’ll continue to look for ways to improve the room as much as we can. But I just think, as we go through it, we’ll continue to coach the guys that are here and give them the best opportunity and continue to find ways to get better.”


Funny. I didn't read the whole article and then got to this:

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Osweiler’s future with the Browns could be a short one if they do use an early pick on a quarterback. Before Osweiler was acquired, Jackson said almost the exact thing about Griffin he is saying now about Osweiler.

“Obviously Robert’s on our roster right now,” Jackson said on March 2 at the NFL Scouting Combine. “I think there are some things that he did well (with the Browns in 2016), some things he needs to continue to improve at and we’re going to keep working with him until we don’t.

“He’s one of the three quarterbacks on our football team right now and I’m very fortunate we do have some guys under contract right now to work with, but we’ve got to continue to get him better as he moves forward.”


http://www.news-herald.com/sports/201703...-in-and-compete

I'll believe Osweiler is a part of team's plans when I see him in uniform during the off-season.

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I'd like to see him go to camp with us, just in case there is any salvage there. But I'm cool with whatever they do this year. We can go 1-15 again if we have to, so long as we get a QB this year or next and have solid players across the board by the end of next year.

After next year, not this upcoming season, I expect us to start being very competitive.

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When I say let him compete...I don't expect him on our roster come September.

2. I know some have said because Hue is a QB guru...he can make BO into a good QB. He's a QB guru...not a Saint who can perform miracles. Just a lot wrong with the kid and the first being he simply is not accurate.

3. Broncos miss out on Romo...I hope they will give up a 5/6th round pick for BO and we pay half his salary...Elway was hot on him February 2016.

I think that is the only team possible for the trade.

4. If we keep him here in camp...the first time he falls to the ground regardless how hard...he's going to get up with a strained back that will not heal for the entire season.

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3. Broncos miss out on Romo...I hope they will give up a 5/6th round pick for BO and we pay half his salary...Elway was hot on him February 2016.


I think Osweiler burned some bridges when he left Denver. Osweiler was also not happy that he got benched for Manning.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/heres-how-the-texans-stole-brock-osweiler-from-the-broncos/

http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/brock-osweiler-denver-broncos-houston-texans-031016

On top of both of those things, the coaching staff that had him in Denver is gone.

I don't see any team trading for him at this point. Our best hope is that we release him and somebody else signs him and offsets some of his costs.

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Anyone think we might deal Brock DURING the Draft?

Maybe a team is sitting there in the 3rd round, having missed out on all the QBs.

And we offer Broswiler and a 5th or 6th for the 3rd?

Just a thought.


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Anyone think we might deal Brock DURING the Draft?

Maybe a team is sitting there in the 3rd round, having missed out on all the QBs.

And we offer Broswiler and a 5th or 6th for the 3rd?

Just a thought.


That could happen, but it would be hard to do so and redo his deal so we would cover part of his deal at the same time. (because no one is going to take him at $16 million)


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I think Brock will be on this team when the season starts unless we trade for Jimmy G. because it costs us nothing to keep him and Hue might feel he can fix him. Frankly, I think it worth checking it out to see if Hue can work with him. If he can't its no big loss to us since we already picked up a second rounder to experiment with him. If we land JG though Brock needs to go to avoid a cancerous locker room IMHO.


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Another vote of confidence for Brock Osweiler, this time from Jimmy Haslam:

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"Brock could be on our team or we could trade him. There's lots of options out there and like I said you guys should cover it with Sashi (Brown) tomorrow.''


http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2017/03/jimmy_haslam_says_brock_osweil.html

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Originally Posted By: cfrs15
Another vote of confidence for Brock Osweiler, this time from Jimmy Haslam:

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"Brock could be on our team or we could trade him. There's lots of options out there and like I said you guys should cover it with Sashi (Brown) tomorrow.''


http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2017/03/jimmy_haslam_says_brock_osweil.html


And another from Hue Jackson:

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Jackson would not commit to quarterback Brock Osweiler being part of the Browns in the 2017 season.

"I don't know that," Jackson said. "I do know that he's on our team now."


http://www.ohio.com/blogs/cleveland-brow...etings-1.756727

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Optimistic thought:
This process will humble Glock Osweiler and he will finally become Shea Serrano's fantasy.

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Jackson would not commit to quarterback Brock Osweiler being part of the Browns in the 2017 season.

"I don't know that," Jackson said. "I do know that he's on our team now."


Sounds like Hue cannot wait to get him in the building and start to mold that piece of clay!

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During his interview on NFL Network I noticed a little smile come on his face when they mention Trubisky, watch the replay when it becomes available and see what you think ...


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